miapug 97 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, Stealthycat said: because you wouldn't give up anything - but you'd demand literally tens of millions of American's to give up something to literally impact what, 200-300 incidents of violent people using semi-auto weapons annually ? or ... we could focus on getting these violent people out of society and the tens of millions of guns owners wouldn't be impacted at all You have a point here. I have no desire to own a gun and perhaps don't understand why it would be such a big deal to ban assault rifles. What is your solution to stop or limit the mass shootings? How can we identify these crazy people? Do you agree better background checks are needed at a minimum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, miapug said: You have a point here. I have no desire to own a gun and perhaps don't understand why it would be such a big deal to ban assault rifles. What is your solution to stop or limit the mass shootings? How can we identify these crazy people? Do you agree better background checks are needed at a minimum? most of the mass shooters have known mental issues - most violent people who kill others have criminal histories or drug histories. Right ? https://time.com/5757243/texas-church-shooter-motive/ why was this guy walking around society to begin with? yes, I know its not politically correct thing to talk/think/advocate bringing back insane asylums, but these people .... they're dangers to themselves and to others and suggesting banning guns/certain type of guns from 70 million people to stop the few hundred crazies that mass shoot every year? I think that's crazy and a complete failure of an idea. I know people would say its infringing on rights but when you're a threat to yourself and others? that's why I am ok with red flag laws IF DONE RIGHT ........... violent people/mentally ill people just cannot be allowed to roam society hurting others. I'd truly crack down on drugs too - I'm so sick of our drug crisis, its existed since I was a kid, there is no "war on drugs" We could venture into whole new realms of how to get the above done ........... but I fully believe that in any other examples, nobody would support removing things from 70 million people in hopes of stopped a few hundred. of the 12,000 +/- violent acts that use guns to kill every year, only a few hundred are semi-auto rifles. Almost all of them are handguns. This focusing on semi-auto rifles is ... well, crazy I'll add this - since schools starting arming themselves, school shootings have went WAY down too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 33,372 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Shooting at Texas A& M, 2 dead, 1 hospitalized. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/us/texas-am-university-commerce-fatal-shooting/index.html Edited February 3, 2020 by timschochet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, timschochet said: Shooting at Texas A& M, 2 dead, 1 hospitalized. https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/03/us/texas-am-university-commerce-fatal-shooting/index.html Thug, terrorist or mental illness. The answer will likely be based on the ethnicity of the shooter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Interesting article about gun suicides in the US - some has already been mentioned in this thread but there are interesting comparisons made about how other countries have had a suicide problem and partially solved it The silent epidemic of America's problem with guns Quote Part of the problem with guns is that they are by far the most fatal means. There are three statistics which together paint a stark picture of the role of firearms in American suicides: about 85% of people who use a gun will die; about 95% of people who use another means will survive; and about 90% of those who survive will not go on to try again. UK: Quote History tells us that reducing access to certain means of suicide can have a dramatic effect on suicide rates. In the early 20th Century, the UK began heating domestic ovens with coal gas, which contained lethal levels of carbon monoxide. Suicide rates spiked, particularly among women, and by the 1950s more than half of all suicides in the UK — about the same proportion as firearm suicides in the US today — involved a coal gas oven. Then in 1958 the government began, incidentally, to replace coal gas with a cleaner natural gas which was virtually free of carbon monoxide, and by the early 1970s gas oven suicides fell to zero and the overall national suicide rate fell by a third. The so-called "coal gas story" became a touchstone for suicide prevention experts worldwide. Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Israel, more UK: Quote There are other examples. In the early 1990s, Sri Lanka had one of the highest suicide rates in the world, driven by the ready availability of toxic pesticides. Two laws passed in 1995 and 1998 restricted access to a deadly class of pesticides and by 2005 the suicide rate had fallen by half. In Switzerland, army reforms in 2003 halved the number of soldiers and the knock-on reduction in the availability of firearms brought about a sharp reduction in suicides among men. Similarly in Israel, in 2006, the army prohibited younger soldiers from taking their service weapons home at the weekend and the measure led to 40% fall in suicides. And legislation passed in the UK in 1998 outlawed the sale of painkillers in bottles, meaning anyone wanting a large quantity had to push them out from blister packs one by one. That seemingly small obstacle had a significant effect — painkiller overdoses fell by 43% over the next decade and overdose-related liver transplants by 61%. Similar reductions have been observed in the US after the installation of access barriers that prevent people jumping from bridges, and studies tend to show little or no "substitution" effect — ie increases in the number of suicides at nearby bridges. In San Francisco, where dozens of people die every year after jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge, a five-year, $76 million metal suicide barrier, paid for by the state, is scheduled for completion by 2023. Let's not talk about the elephant in the room, though. It's too soon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 2,883 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 6 dead plus the shooter on the Molson-Coors campus in Milwaukee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Ten-year-old in Houston, Texas accidentally shot by babysitter Quote Harris County Sherriff Ed Gonzales told the news site the weapon was kept unsecured at home. "The female indicates that she retrieved that weapon to take pictures, and in the course of taking pictures the gun went off and struck the child," he added. "Very tragic situation, we see this quite a bit." I'm sure she's just a very violent person. Surely, nothing could have prevented this tragedy. Edited February 27, 2020 by msommer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Molston shooter - was armed with two handguns keep passing those AR15 ban's though .... "The female indicates that she retrieved that weapon to take pictures,' ban cameras? ban taking picture? ban stupid ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 guns and ammo are being bought like crazy right now I'm wondering if any left leaning, previously anti-gun people are changing their minds and seeing a need for self defense ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Stealthycat said: guns and ammo are being bought like crazy right now I'm wondering if any left leaning, previously anti-gun people are changing their minds and seeing a need for self defense ? I'm strongly considering stocking up on some ammo. I would only be buying ammo for my .22lr and shotguns. I don't really have much for shotgun shells so I could use some stock any way. It would be hunting purposes but know that I could use them for defense if absolutely needed. I'm not going to be buying an AR-15 or anything like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I am shocked at all the AR15 and AK47 "out of stock" ammo and guns online I bet there are 10 million new gun owners today than there were 3 weeks ago ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bagger 3,362 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 12 hours ago, Stealthycat said: guns and ammo are being bought like crazy right now I'm wondering if any left leaning, previously anti-gun people are changing their minds and seeing a need for self defense ? I am not planning on shooting the corona virus. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Stealthycat said: I am shocked at all the AR15 and AK47 "out of stock" ammo and guns online I bet there are 10 million new gun owners today than there were 3 weeks ago ! I went to my local farm supply store yesterday and bought some ammo for my .22 and shotguns. There was one person at the counter in the process of buying a gun and another group of guys looking at ammo and possibly a gun as well. I overheard them talking to the working about everything going on and she said it's been crazy. Guns and ammo sales went up drastically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 9 hours ago, bagger said: I am not planning on shooting the corona virus. nobody else is either 27 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I overheard them talking to the working about everything going on and she said it's been crazy. Guns and ammo sales went up drastically. yes - and that was my questions / thoughts ... I wonder how many new gun owners have been produced because of this? How many people who thought weeks ago that guns were no use now realize just how quickly a situation turns and how valuable they really are for self defense scenarios? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Stealthycat said: nobody else is either yes - and that was my questions / thoughts ... I wonder how many new gun owners have been produced because of this? How many people who thought weeks ago that guns were no use now realize just how quickly a situation turns and how valuable they really are for self defense scenarios? Probably a good amount. Those would be people who were always on the fence. The people who have always been strongly against guns are still not going to buy any guns... yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stealthycat 1,656 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: The people who have always been strongly against guns are still not going to buy any guns... yet. if they do they'll not tell anyone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Stealthycat said: if they do they'll not tell anyone I still don't have an AR-15 or any high powered rifle and don't plan on getting one. I'll just stick with my .22 and shotguns for now. I have them more for shooting animals, self defense is secondary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zow 8,523 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: I went to my local farm supply store yesterday and bought some ammo for my .22 and shotguns. There was one person at the counter in the process of buying a gun and another group of guys looking at ammo and possibly a gun as well. I overheard them talking to the working about everything going on and she said it's been crazy. Guns and ammo sales went up drastically. Well, if my anecdotal facebook feed is any indication, it's my gun-loving friends that are openly buying more weapon and ammo - and then posting memes about how they'll shoot anybody who tries to loot their homes and how they'll win if a real-life Purge breaks out. And, again anecdotally, I'm a guy who thinks owning a gun is -EV (in other words I'm not philosophically opposed to guns and don't want them banned - I just think it's a poor decision to own one) and it hasn't occurred to me at all to change my mind on that. So, my presumption (which admittedly isn't based on real reliable data) is that it's mostly prior gun-owners buying up all the guns and ammo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, Zow said: Well, if my anecdotal facebook feed is any indication, it's my gun-loving friends that are openly buying more weapon and ammo - and then posting memes about how they'll shoot anybody who tries to loot their homes and how they'll win if a real-life Purge breaks out. And, again anecdotally, I'm a guy who thinks owning a gun is -EV (in other words I'm not philosophically opposed to guns and don't want them banned - I just think it's a poor decision to own one) and it hasn't occurred to me at all to change my mind on that. So, my presumption (which admittedly isn't based on real reliable data) is that it's mostly prior gun-owners buying up all the guns and ammo. This is accurate. The majority is going to be from people who already own guns. You're anecdotal experience is the same as mine, my Facebook feed is exactly the same and I am friends with a lot of outdoorsmen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Guru 6,300 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: Probably a good amount. Those would be people who were always on the fence. The people who have always been strongly against guns are still not going to buy any guns... yet. Not true is all cases..my BIL who is a anti gun chemical engineer just got his CCW and also bought a hunting rifle. Of course he did not tell me or anyone but my SIL told us. I texted him a few days ago and said 'Hey Jeff..I heard you joined the NRA" The guy has zero sense of humor and just said "Did not join NRA, just want some protection if needed" They have a place in Florida they drive to a couple time a year and my SIL said he wants to carry on the long trips my themselves just in case. What concerns me about people like him is that he could be disarmed in 5 seconds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Da Guru said: Not true is all cases..my BIL who is a anti gun chemical engineer just got his CCW and also bought a hunting rifle. Of course he did not tell me or anyone but my SIL told us. I texted him a few days ago and said 'Hey Jeff..I heard you joined the NRA" The guy has zero sense of humor and just said "Did not join NRA, just want some protection if needed" They have a place in Florida they drive to a couple time a year and my SIL said he wants to carry on the long trips my themselves just in case. What concerns me about people like him is that he could be disarmed in 5 seconds. There are always going to be exceptions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 1,324 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, Zow said: Well, if my anecdotal facebook feed is any indication, it's my gun-loving friends that are openly buying more weapon and ammo - and then posting memes about how they'll shoot anybody who tries to loot their homes and how they'll win if a real-life Purge breaks out. The one I've been seeing lately is the Office meme with Jim smiling through the blinds and the caption is "Gun Owners watching non gun owners stockpile apocalypse supplies for them." Kinda sounds like they're the ones planning to do the looting. Funny stuff right there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zow 8,523 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, parrot said: The one I've been seeing lately is the Office meme with Jim smiling through the blinds and the caption is "Gun Owners watching non gun owners stockpile apocalypse supplies for them." Kinda sounds like they're the ones planning to do the looting. Funny stuff right there. I have to admit, some of my friends seem to want some sort of confrontation or violent civil unrest (so, I presume, they can tell people like me that I was wrong). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Guru 6,300 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: There are always going to be exceptions. Of course, but my BIL has never hunted or shot a gun in his life until he had to take the testing. He is the kind of guy an intruder would take the gun away from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Zow said: I have to admit, some of my friends seem to want some sort of confrontation or violent civil unrest (so, I presume, they can tell people like me that I was wrong). Some people want to live out the Walking Dead scenario. There's a major appeal to it for some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, Da Guru said: Of course, but my BIL has never hunted or shot a gun in his life until he had to take the testing. He is the kind of guy an intruder would take the gun away from. Everyone has to start somewhere with a gun. He just waited till now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Da Guru said: Of course, but my BIL has never hunted or shot a gun in his life until he had to take the testing. He is the kind of guy an intruder would take the gun away from. He may still be. A rifle seems like a poor choice for self defense, particularly on the road Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Guru 6,300 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, msommer said: He may still be. A rifle seems like a poor choice for self defense, particularly on the road No he bought a pistol and rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Da Guru said: No he bought a pistol and rifle. Yes. The rifle is still a poor choice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Da Guru 6,300 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, msommer said: Yes. The rifle is still a poor choice I think a sawed off shotgun would be his best option. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Da Guru said: I think a sawed off shotgun would be his best option. It's been discussed a bit in the previous 400+ pages Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 4,165 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, msommer said: Yes. The rifle is still a poor choice A rifle is still a very handy gun to have. Works great for hunting and can be used for long range defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: A rifle is still a very handy gun to have. Works great for hunting and can be used for long range defense. Let's not open that discussion again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCitons 4,164 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Unbridled Freedom. I've been saying it for some time now. We are seeing it again with a new killer. It's what keeps us from protecting ourselves, from ourselves. We are seeing it again with the Covid 19 pandemic. People believe they have the right to be free. To move around freely. To assemble freely. And to own guns. Taking away a defined freedom from Americans is not an easy process. And not one that is accepted or complied with by the entire population uniformly. I see people going to stores, restaurants, beaches, etc. They lack regard to the well being of others, similar to those that choose to own a gun. People are free to choose what's best for themselves over what's best for others. I wonder how many posters here (that chastise gun owners) are not social distancing or self isolating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Hooligan 870 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Um hello all the remastered BioShocks were only $12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beef 2,491 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Are gun prices going up? I got a few to sell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abbottjamesr 513 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 11:17 AM, beef said: Are gun prices going up? I got a few to sell. I have read reports on Reddit of folks selling guns on consignment at gun shops for a pretty good premium, like $700 for a Glock 19. Might be worth looking into if you are serious. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigSteelThrill 5,359 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/22/2020 at 7:15 AM, KCitons said: Unbridled Freedom. I've been saying it for some time now. We are seeing it again with a new killer. It's what keeps us from protecting ourselves, from ourselves. We are seeing it again with the Covid 19 pandemic. People believe they have the right to be free. To move around freely. To assemble freely. And to own guns. Taking away a defined freedom from Americans is not an easy process. And not one that is accepted or complied with by the entire population uniformly. I see people going to stores, restaurants, beaches, etc. They lack regard to the well being of others, similar to those that choose to own a gun. People are free to choose what's best for themselves over what's best for others. I wonder how many posters here (that chastise gun owners) are not social distancing or self isolating. Hi KC. Hope all is well, especially in these times, you haven't been round much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCitons 4,164 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) On 3/23/2020 at 3:36 PM, BigSteelThrill said: Hi KC. Hope all is well, especially in these times, you haven't been round much. Hi BST, I'm well, although a little bored. I've only been out twice in the past 3 weeks. (once to the bank, and once to my MIL's empty rental house). Hope you are doing well also. I'll pop in from time to time to browse the threads, but I've found other places to share my opinions without all the faux utopia censorship. Everyone stay safe. Stay in touch with those important to you. I'd also suggest that you document and save memories from this time. This is a significant moment in history that you will remember for the rest of your life and share with future generations. Edited March 27, 2020 by KCitons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Endowed 308 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, KCitons said: Hi BST, I'm well, although a little bored. I've only been out twice in the past 3 weeks. (once to the bank, and once to my MIL's empty rental house). Hope you are doing well also. I'll pop in from time to time to browse the threads, but I've found other places to share my opinions without all the faux utopia censorship. BST got some forced utopia vacay time currently. For pressing a like/sad/thinking/laughing/love/thanks button, not even a reply, to a post apparently. Edited March 27, 2020 by Endowed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Did somene get shot over TP yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Endowed said: BST got some forced utopia vacay time currently. For pressing a like/sad/thinking/laughing/love/thanks button, not even a reply, to a post apparently. Wait what? Really? Someone actually got suspended for a like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msommer 8,981 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, sho nuff said: Wait what? Really? Someone actually got suspended for a like? There was a certain poster the laughing responded to just about anything that didn't downplay the coronavirus. It was pointed out to the moderators. BST may have been swept up in the fallout, that would be my guess Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,560 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, msommer said: There was a certain poster the laughing responded to just about anything that didn't downplay the coronavirus. It was pointed out to the moderators. BST may have been swept up in the fallout, that would be my guess Wow...i mean if there os a fallout for laughing they missed a few. Seems bad of we are getting moderated for the like feature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonessed 3,213 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Endowed said: BST got some forced utopia vacay time currently. For pressing a like/sad/thinking/laughing/love/thanks button, not even a reply, to a post apparently. He walks a fine line with a lot of his posts. It’s not surprising he’s getting a TO. I can’t imagine this is his first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Endowed 308 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, jonessed said: He walks a fine line with a lot of his posts. Wasnt for a post apparently. Just using the like button. Edited March 28, 2020 by Endowed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCitons 4,164 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I guess we are seeing why some people stockpile ammo. With some stores being deemed non essential, gun owners are finding it difficult to buy any ammo. Much less stockpile it. The 2nd Amendment is going to get a boost once we get past this pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,231 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, KCitons said: I guess we are seeing why some people stockpile ammo. With some stores being deemed non essential, gun owners are finding it difficult to buy any ammo. Much less stockpile it. The 2nd Amendment is going to get a boost once we get past this pandemic. Just curious as someone who has never even touched a gun, what do you consider a stockpile of ammo? If you own a basic handgun, how much ammo do you think is good amount to have to ensure you can defend yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KCitons 4,164 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Ilov80s said: Just curious as someone who has never even touched a gun, what do you consider a stockpile of ammo? If you own a basic handgun, how much ammo do you think is good amount to have to ensure you can defend yourself? Three months ago, I would have said that 300 rounds per gun was an acceptable amount. Today, I think that number is much, much higher. perhaps 1000 rounds per gun. That also would depend on the gun. A single shot or revolver would go through less rounds. Where a semi automatic would go through more. The same way Vietnam soldiers fired more rounds than WWI soldiers. We don't know what the next 6 months hold. Remember the conversations a few years ago about the impossible task of standing up against our mighty military? That same military could get decimated by an invisible virus. Could that weakness leave us susceptible to attacks from other countries? Maybe. If that happened, how much ammo would you want? The other scenario is the deterioration of police forces across the country. We are starting to see it in NY. We could see pockets of civil unrest as things progressively get worse. If there is no police to protect you, and a percent of the population is without basic necessities because their $1200 stimulus check didn't go far enough, how much ammo would you want? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abbottjamesr 513 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Ilov80s said: Just curious as someone who has never even touched a gun, what do you consider a stockpile of ammo? If you own a basic handgun, how much ammo do you think is good amount to have to ensure you can defend yourself? I shoot quite a bit so it may skew what is typical, but I re -order ammo when I get down to 1,000 rounds of 5.56, 9mm, or 45acp and at 2,000 of 22lr. These are what I shoot most of. I probably have 200-300 for my various hunting rifles on hand at any time as well. I don't consider this stockpiling though. If I was stockpiling it would be around 10K rounds of the common stuff and 50K of 22lr. It just doesn't take much space to store that much ammo and for the last couple years it has been ridiculously cheep to buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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