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USA Shootings (6 Viewers)
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toshiba
Footballguy
I wasn't alive 50 years ago, so I can only go on history about these good 'ole days you talk about.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I hope the reports prove accurate. I also hope, though it would be unworthy of a more advanced human than I, that he suffered first. In the end I am not a very good person and am a bit vengeful. I am in no way motivated to become a better person in this regard. I am fine with a vengeful streak in my nature, though sometimes it redounds to my own detriment.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
It was glorious. We had lead in our paint and our gasoline, but not in our water. We walked to school, uphill, and also on the return, but we had freedom from adults to get into mischief during the walks. We had transistor radios, girls in cut off jeans so short they were showing two hairstyles and Aids had not been invented yet.
Zow
Footballguy
Get off my lawn!!!!111
Seriously, DW, between this flawed logic and your affliction for the Packers I'm starting to question my decision to hold you in such high regard.
msommer
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
We also have significantly more due process than just about anywhere else. I think that's a pretty big factor.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Mama put my guns in the ground ...
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Zow
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
NBC in DC reported seven originally, glad it was only three. Hopefully those students make it
TLEF316
Footballguy
Probably, but some people have fun shooting them on the weekends, so SECOND AMENDMANT!!!!!!!11111
randall146
Footballguy
Looks like they are hedging a bit on whether the SRO killed the kid or it was suicide. Either way, the SRO got it to stop, so that's good.
Also, OP updated with a bunch of shootings I missed
Also, OP updated with a bunch of shootings I missed
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
Most people are rule followers but everyone has that one law that will make them unlawful.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
I keep reading on social media about how a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun so it proves them right and Liberals should just shut up. I admit that it was good that he was there and sounds like he prevented other from being hurt but isn't the point of having armed guards in schools to prevent a shooting from happening in the first place. I know StealthyCat has been in favor of it because he wants the bad person shot before they can do anything, this was another failure in that area.
timschochet
Footballguy
Why was the well-trained school resource officer able to stop this guy? Because the shooter only had a pistol. If he had carried an AR-15 or similar weapon, many more students would be dead, including most likely the school resource officer. And this is the entire point.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
I've thought about that myself but I ultimately don't know the answer. It's possible his only goal was to shoot specific people. I think it's possible it made a difference though.
randall146
Footballguy
I think it's safe to assume the armed SRO made a difference and ended this incident before it got worse.
But that's not evidence that armed teachers would make a difference or wouldn't do more harm than good in the long run, and it's certainly not evidence that armed SRO's solve the problem so we no longer have to worry about easy access assault rifles.
But that's not evidence that armed teachers would make a difference or wouldn't do more harm than good in the long run, and it's certainly not evidence that armed SRO's solve the problem so we no longer have to worry about easy access assault rifles.
msommer
Footballguy
We don't know that. Could be this was merely a triangle drama, real or perceived by the shooter.
We'll find out more in the coming days
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Bottom line: It is too easy for people to bring guns into schools.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I know you keep saying that but I don’t think you are right. If we want to get serious about this we can do it. You could get an army of citizens that you in theory could “deputize” to collect guns. You could have buyback programs larger than we’ve ever had. You could make it illegal to own then and sell them.
Note, while I would be all for this, I’m not advocating for it. I’d prefer to start with gun laws that most agree with and go from there, I just don’t think it’s impossible like you say it is if we really wanted to do it.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
How big is this army? How many guns do you think they can collect and properly document to remove the name/number from the registry and get watched over so they don't steal them and put them back in circulation? 300-350 million guns.
Buybacks? If you gave everyone $250 in gift cards (as they do at buybacks) you'd have over $87 billion in gift cards to hand out. That's more than the entire prison system of this country spends per year on incarceration at the state, federal, and local levels combined. And, again, even if you managed to have an average of two centers per state collecting these guns securely and handing out cards, operating 16 hours per day, completing a transaction every two minutes, you'd get 48,000 guns per day. Double it. Heck, triple it. Let's call it 150,000 guns per day, which is virtually impossible, but let's call it that. If it's 350 million guns it's still over six years before the program's over, and that's assuming we can shuffle everyone around for perfect placement of volunteers and keep that 150,000 guns per day average working seven days a week for those six years.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
I'm sure I'm alone but my heart always breaks for the parents of these shooters. I'm sure some are to blame but I bet many are not.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
KCitons
Footballguy
WTF??
We don't know if it was the SRO? But, Tim can spout off whataboutisms that it could have been worse if the kid had an AR15.
More of the same.
KCitons
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
No, I said how long it would take before. Unspoken in there is that when a program takes six years (really, much longer) to be complete and has a vocal political opposition, the party that created it will be gone before it finishes and it will get voted away.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Unspoken in mine was that people agree - I’m not looking to make Riversco out to be Nazidamus.
msommer
Footballguy
This is what I answered:
By saying
clearly in response to the
Because if it is a love triangle thing it is far ffrom certain the shooter would have continued after what he already did.
As I said. We'll know more over the coming days if that is the case
Really starting to think the solution(since no-guns is unrealistic for some reason) is just to not have schools. Just have everything done online via email and skype. Families that can't afford computers can be issued standard ones, that will easily be paid for with the money saved by not having to maintain/rebuild schools. Could probably lower taxes too.
msommer
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
That’s a fair point, but it still leaves us with a best case scenario of kid has access to gun, tries to kill ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend before killing himself
KCitons
Footballguy
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
No....Tim said it for Tim....and this is one of the biggest problems on this board. I don't know how many times I have been asked to defend a position or had a position assigned to me that I didn't make or take simply because I disagreed with something someone was saying.
KCitons
Footballguy
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