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looks like another use of fire alarm to get students into pouring out of buildingsBREAKING UPDATE: Multiple students killed in shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas, federal official says
looks like another use of fire alarm to get students into pouring out of buildingsBREAKING UPDATE: Multiple students killed in shooting at Santa Fe High School in Texas, federal official says
I don't know if there is another way for the media to cover it. I mean - its news. They have to cover it. How do they glorify it? I think the news channels have changed how they cover it. I'm not sure what the etching of names you are talking about is.just logging in this morning
I wonder what would happen if media quit glorifying it though? If Hollywood took the gun violence away from movies, shootings quit being plastered on the news .......... would that impact people doing these things?
Attention and etching their names in some way to be remembered is a motivating factor no ?
Start a new thread?I meant here. We just kind of move on with our lives. Eh - another day in America. #thisisamerica
I don't know if there is another way for the media to cover it. I mean - its news. They have to cover it. How do they glorify it? I think the news channels have changed how they cover it. I'm not sure what the etching of names you are talking about is.
And as for Hollywood - its art. Art often reflects the society we live in. We'd be a much worse society if we censored artistic expression.
I definitely agree that plastering the stuff on the news is bad and does spark copycat crimes.just logging in this morning
I wonder what would happen if media quit glorifying it though? If Hollywood took the gun violence away from movies, shootings quit being plastered on the news .......... would that impact people doing these things?
Attention and etching their names in some way to be remembered is a motivating factor no ?
Like racist being more embolden because of TrumpAn armed person walked into an art class at Santa Fe High School and began firing what looked like a shotgun, a witness told CNN affiliate KTRK.
society is led in part by what they see and read and hear
But the shooting is news. The media can't ignore it.I definitely agree that plastering the stuff on the news is bad and does spark copycat crimes.
They won't but they could ignore it. There are lots of bad things that happen everyday that don't get covered nationally.But the shooting is news. The media can't ignore it.
if Trump spoke out and led racism and if the media supported it and advertised it etc yes, it would be like thattoshiba said:Like racism on the rise because of Trump
A better example with Trump would be making America petty, rude, crude and stupid.if Trump spoke out and led racism and if the media supported it and advertised it etc yes, it would be like that
if you want to sell a product, or an idea, you bombard society with it over and over and over with as much saturation as possible. There are other avenues as well, but you CAN lead society in directions
example - women teaches raping young high school boysThey won't but they could ignore it. There are lots of bad things that happen everyday that don't get covered nationally.
well its very hard for Trump to do that with a high % of the media anti-TrumpA better example with Trump would be making America petty, rude, crude and stupid.
Trump has the conservative media and a massive Twitter presence and the attention of the world's media. I am pretty sure he has a lot of influence. But that is off topic so I am walking way.well its very hard for Trump to do that with a high % of the media anti-Trump
to change society you have to have the media behind you in today's world IMO ......
not so off topic no - its an example of how influence can change peopleTrump has the conservative media and a massive Twitter presence and the attention of the world's media. I am pretty sure he has a lot of influence. But that is off topic so I am walking way.
lol @ 1M per year. How many gun owners are there in the country?
The problem is easy access to all the ####### guns.just logging in this morning
I wonder what would happen if media quit glorifying it though? If Hollywood took the gun violence away from movies, shootings quit being plastered on the news .......... would that impact people doing these things?
Attention and etching their names in some way to be remembered is a motivating factor no ?
unknownlol @ 1M per year. How many gun owners are there in the country?
"No way to prevent this", say citizens of only country in the world there this happens.another day another bunch of kids dead and a whole bunch of others traumatized to the point that they will never recover. Yay USA!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/18/us/florida-school-shooting-updates/index.htmlNo, he didn't say that. He said something along the lines of "Let's make it the last school shooting"
if we do that the king of england is immediately going to break into my house and take my stuffWhat do you say we just ban guns altogether. I’ll wrap mine up with a pretty bow and drop it of at the gun smelter.
if compromise is not in the cards, screw it.
All we have to do is delete one sentence from the constitution.
If you see that a bunch of kids got killed in a school shooting and you think to yourself "this is a great opportunity to throw shade at a survivor of another recent school shooting!" you probably need to take a little time for self-reflection.Damnit..... That weird kid from Parkland said that would be the last school shooting.
Good tactic. Blame the victims and survivors of the shootings. This should get a lot of traction.
All you can think about is having to sacrifice your object, but give zero consideration to the sacrifices others have been forced to make because of sickos and their holy guns.I have an AR15, 30 round clips, .223/556 nato
You ok with me and 25 million American's owning them? Gun control right now is banning AR15 frame guns, semi-auto guns with clips, bump stocks, pistol grips etc. What the anti-gun let says and what they pass, two very different things.
Parkland students don't even want to give up their backpacks ....... but they'd demand me giving up 1/2 the guns I own because they fall into a category ? again, very easy to demand everyone else give up something when you don't have to give up anything yourself isn't it ?
what happened there was a massive failure by the county officials, school and FBI. Nikolas Cruz shouldn't ever had the ability to be where he was and when he stepped onto that campus with a gun, security should have engaged as a last resort and shot him dead. All the laws broken, all the people who failed - those were all safegaurds to when some people crack and want to hurt others. The core problem was Cruz - and he was known, identified and nothing was done.
You serious Clark?"No way to prevent this", say citizens of only country in the world there this happens.
agreedCondolences to the families and victims. There are no more excuses to stop this. Either admit you devalue these lives or do what it takes to stop the gun violence.
Old Onion headline that gets recycled after every few school shootings.You serious Clark?
would hate for him to suffer not being able to get drunk and shoot beer cans in his yard...All you can think about is having to sacrifice your object, but give zero consideration to the sacrifices others have been forced to make because of sickos and their holy guns.
How does it feel?not so off topic no - its an example of how influence can change people
twitter is a powerful tool - Trump could release fake information via his twitter and have 25 million people believing something fake withing an hour, true ?
what will you sacrifice Dickies to stop these shootings ?All you can think about is having to sacrifice your object, but give zero consideration to the sacrifices others have been forced to make because of sickos and their holy guns.
It must be difficult living with malignancy. Can I help you with your burden?
I am pretty sure he is talking about gun reform and would consider you as someone devaluing human life.agreed
these people who wish to harm others need to be stopped
same as it always has .... when a person realizes that their opinions and views can be led by media and social means ..... I think it enables people to then understand better what's happening around themHow does it feel?
Assuming these were his parents' guns, we should hold the parents equally responsible.unknown
In 2017, about 42 percent of U.S. households had at least one gun in possession
reports are now that 8 dead at the school and the shooter was a student - very likely under 18 and not legal in having the guns he used or the ammunition and illegally going onto a campus and illegally shooting people
too early to know, but assuming he/she was under 18 and used a shotgun, how would 18-21 age limit increases, bump stock bans and AR15 bans affect this shooter? it wouldn't have made any difference at all.
that's my problem with the calls for certain looks of guns being banned ..... these problem people will get something else. Stop these people - that's the core problem
damn sad day in Texas :(
my gawd man, I'm pro-life and want to outlaw abortion to save 850,000 dead babies every yearI am pretty sure he is talking about gun reform and would consider you as someone devaluing human life.
if they gave them to the kid before school and allowed him to take them .... there is a responsibility thereAssuming these were his parents' guns, we should hold the parents equally responsible.
Says the guy that continues to quote NRA talking points (courtesy of Russia)same as it always has .... when a person realizes that their opinions and views can be led by media and social means ..... I think it enables people to then understand better what's happening around them
not many understand this
you are guessingLooks like at least 8 dead. If the kid had a more efficient weapon it might have been 25.
Nobody is saying that shootings stop if AR-15 rifles are banned. But every life matters.
You’re absolutely wrong. If parents let their 16 year old drive and they kill someone, they are responsible, and can be held civilly liable if not criminally.if they gave them to the kid before school and allowed him to take them .... there is a responsibility there
other than that, what you are suggesting is when you give your 16 year old the keys to your car to drive to a movie and they wreck and kill someone, that's also parents fault
it isn't - people, even under 18, have personal responsibility for their actions. i know that's radical, anti-liberal thought but its one of the big failures in this country right now, blaming everyone else for things you do vs accepting the responsibility of own actions
Good idea.you are guessing
an AR15 in .223 shoots small bullets, there could easily have been 2 dead and 25 injured
I said it weeks ago right here - better hope shooters never figure out the damage semi-auto shotguns do ........... and this shooter might have proved it
so now, ban all semi-auto shotguns? is that next ?
I would love to see civil and criminal liability attached to gun owners as well as shooters. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime, you're responsible unless you can show that the gun was obtained from you by criminal act.Dickies said:Assuming these were his parents' guns, we should hold the parents equally responsible.