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17 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

You guys need to do a better job picking your heroes and saviors.  


https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-ex-firm-stormy-daniels-lawyer-owes-unpaid-222533565--politics.html

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This has been going on since January. I noticed Avenatti was on Kimmel last night and I’d agree making him a star is a mistake. But I don’t think anyone would doubt he’s done a great job on the Daniels case.

However I seriously doubt you personally think bankruptcy and tax dodges are serious character flaws.

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26 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

You guys need to do a better job picking your heroes and saviors.  


https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-ex-firm-stormy-daniels-lawyer-owes-unpaid-222533565--politics.html

Lock him up!!!

Unpaid taxes? Hell, he could run for president...

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On 7/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, the rover said:

Again, I'm not aware of any legal theory under which someone is responsible for the acts of a former agent (other than one with apparent authority, which isn't the case here).  

Bechard just sued Broidy, Davidson, Davidson's firm, and Avenatti, with the filing under seal

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On 7/5/2018 at 6:03 AM, knowledge dropper said:

You guys need to do a better job picking your heroes and saviors.  


https://www.yahoo.com/news/feds-ex-firm-stormy-daniels-lawyer-owes-unpaid-222533565--politics.html

Lock him up!!!

His old firm went bankrupt and owes unpaid taxes as part of the bankruptcy.   That happens all the time when firms dissolve.   He claims he isn't personally liable for them, which may or may not be true.  This isn't much of a story.  

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1 minute ago, -fish- said:

Weird to name Avenatti.  Defamation for his public comments about her case?

She may be going after everybody that she believes has confidential information to get them to shut up.    

Avenatti linked to the order sealing the complaint on his Twitter feed.  The order shows the case caption, which includes John Does 1-20, so I suspect it could be a placeholder for anybody else - currently unknown - that received confidential information from any of the named defendants.  

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Peter K. Stris‏ @PeterStris

Peter K. Stris Retweeted Michael Avenatti

.@MichaelAvenatti you know why you are included in this complaint. You understood that your previous actions might well lead to this when you called our firm and begged us not to sue you several days ago.

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ETA: Stris is Bechard's lawyer (also represented MacDougal)
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Now funny thing is if Broidy wants to say the deal is unenforceable - because, you know - he can certainly go ahead and say that. Or he can say Davidson breached it and he’s on the hook, I guess that works too.

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Mike Balsamo‏Verified account @MikeBalsamo1

A judge has ordered former Playboy model Shera Bechard’s lawyer to provide a copy of her lawsuit to @MichaelAvenatti but it remains under seal. The judge has not yet ruled on the request by Avenatti and seven news organizations, including @AP, to immediately unseal the complaint.

 

Mike Balsamo‏Verified account @MikeBalsamo1

Update: Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Ernest Hiroshige has kept the lawsuit under seal. It was a conditional sealing order so the lawsuit should be unsealed in 20 days, unless there are further motions to keep it sealed.

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1. SCOOP: For weeks people have speculated that Elliott Broidy entered into a hush agreement with Playmate Shera Bechard to cover up an affair she had with Trump. I have now confirmed that Bechard has never met Trump..in fact, they've had no contact.

 

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2. Broidy has stopped payments to Bechard because he says their agreement didn't remain confidential. Bechard's attorney @PeterStris has filed a complaint against Broidy/Davidson. He also included Avenatti for reasons that remain unknown as it's sealed.

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Yashar Ali report:

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Playmate Who Had Affair With Major GOP Fundraiser Has Never Met Trump, Sources Say

Contrary to speculation about a secret affair with Trump, two sources say Shera Bechard has had no contact with the president.

Shera Bechard, the Playboy Playmate who had an affair with a former Republican National Committee deputy finance chairman, Elliott Broidy, and later entered into a hush-money agreement with him, has never met or spoken to President Donald Trump, two sources familiar with the matter tell HuffPost. This news comes after weeks of speculation that Bechard had in fact had an affair with Trump and that Broidy had acted as a middleman to settle Bechard’s claim.

The sources, who are unaffiliated with the president, asked not to be named in order to speak frankly about sensitive information. When asked by HuffPost about the speculation that Broidy acted as a conduit, both sources denied the rumors and said there had been no affair — or even any contact — between Bechard and Trump. ...

 

 

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12 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

I'm sure this sort of arrest is completely ordinary and this is not at all politically motivated.

As a lawyer once said, "Laws are laws".

(Hint that lawyer is Avenatti)

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18 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

I'm sure this sort of arrest is completely ordinary and this is not at all politically motivated.

I’m a local.  

Our government is pretty much all Dems, so I doubt it was politically motivated.  It sounds like there may have been something behind her erratic behavior (if you know what I mean).  She was out of control and they needed to pull the plug.  

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3 hours ago, dozer said:

>>Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, was arrested at a club in Columbus, Ohio, for allowing a customer to touch her while on stage, lawyer Michael Avenatti said on Twitter, describing the touching as "non-sexual."<<

- Gosh what goes on in these iniquitous pleasure dens?

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, was arrested at a club in Columbus, Ohio, for allowing a customer to touch her while on stage, lawyer Michael Avenatti said on Twitter, describing the touching as "non-sexual."<<

- Gosh what goes on these iniquitous pleasure dens?

Their doing it wrong

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Lol like there just happened to be a sheriff deputy on duty at the ‘Sirens Gentleman’s Club’ just waiting to see if the classic ‘look but don’t touch’ purity law was being rigorously adhered to.

Somewhere Lenny Bruce and Jim Morrison are nodding. 

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1 minute ago, tonydead said:

All this publicity and she still has to push strangers faces into her cleavage to make a buck?  Jesus, just sign a book deal or something.

Why should she not maximize her earnings?  

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3 minutes ago, tonydead said:

All this publicity and she still has to push strangers faces into her cleavage to make a buck?  Jesus, just sign a book deal or something.

Your president was the star of a network reality show, a bestselling author and one of the most famous people in America and he still ran a massive fraud operation involving a fake university to make a buck.

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1 minute ago, TobiasFunke said:

Your president was the star of a network reality show, a bestselling author and one of the most famous people in America and he still ran a massive fraud operation involving a fake university to make a buck.

and sold steaks; not the knives, the steaks:doh:

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2 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

Your president was the star of a network reality show, a bestselling author and one of the most famous people in America and he still ran a massive fraud operation involving a fake university to make a buck.

Yeah but she does the sex thing.

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17 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Lol like there just happened to be a sheriff deputy on duty at the ‘Sirens Gentleman’s Club’ just waiting to see if the classic ‘look but don’t touch’ purity law was being rigorously adhered to.

I mean if you break the law you get arrested/ticketed. How is this different?

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1 minute ago, packersfan said:

Yeah but she does the sex thing.

Morality is relative.  Many people are troubled by scamming lower-middle class people who look up to you out of thousands of dollars.  Conservatives obviously don't mind that, but apparently they can't abide a woman letting strangers motorboat her for a few bucks. 

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2 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

I mean if you break the law you get arrested/ticketed. How is this different?

Hey buddy I live in New Orleans, cops don’t hang out in strip clubs looking to bust people. They’re more likely to be customers or even dating the girls themselves. Tell me what it’s like in America I’d really like to know, is this like something that happens in your area?

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Just now, Weebs210 said:

I mean if you break the law you get arrested/ticketed. How is this different?

Don't mind me. I'm just flagging this for when Mueller finds that Trump likely violated federal criminal statutes on obstruction of justice and witness tampering and every conservative howls incessantly about how it's just nickel and dime stuff not real crimes and no collusion and yadda yadda yadda.

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Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Don't mind me. I'm just flagging this for when Mueller finds that Trump likely violated federal criminal statutes on obstruction of justice and witness tampering and every conservative howls incessantly about how it's just nickel and dime stuff not real crimes and no collusion and yadda yadda yadda.

Go for it. I have a feeling this won't be bumped. Or maybe you will bump it after three years when Mueller reports the unpaid parking ticket he found.

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6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hey buddy I live in New Orleans, cops don’t hang out in strip clubs looking to bust people. They’re more likely to be customers or even dating the girls themselves. Tell me what it’s like in America I’d really like to know, is this like something that happens in your area?

Hey buddy I live in Houston. Unfortunately for her she was not in Houston or New Orleans. She was in Ohio which has insane laws(which she knew about) for strip clubs. She broke the law. Take it up with Ohio.

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1 minute ago, Weebs210 said:

Go for it. I have a feeling this won't be bumped. Or maybe you will bump it after three years when Mueller reports the unpaid parking ticket he found.

Which, according to your own post, would mean that Trump should be arrested (or impeached and removed from office, depending on your perspective on the Constitutionality of indicting a sitting president). Right?  Like you said, "if you break the law you get arrested/ticketed." And if you broke the law and got ticketed and didn't pay it, thus breaking the law again, that leaves arrest as the only option.

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Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Which, according to your own post, would mean that Trump should be arrested (or impeached and removed from office, depending on your perspective on the Constitutionality of indicting a sitting president). Right?  Like you said, "if you break the law you get arrested/ticketed." And if you broke the law and got ticketed and didn't pay it, thus breaking the law again, that leaves arrest as the only option.

Strawman much?

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1 minute ago, Weebs210 said:

Hey buddy I live in Houston. Unfortunately for her she was not in Houston or New Orleans. She was in Ohio which has insane laws(which she knew about) for strip clubs. She broke the law. Take it up with Ohio.

Ha yeah I’d like to know if this sort of thing really happens in Columbus, I rather doubt it but who knows.

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18 minutes ago, packersfan said:

Yeah but she does the sex thing.

It's important to understand that Stormy Daniels grabbed the butt of a male strip club patron, which is sexual assault and probably deeply traumatizing for that poor guy.  Comparing her actions to those of the president is totally unjustified because he would never just grab somebody's bathing suit area without their express consent.

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2 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

It's important to understand that Stormy Daniels grabbed the butt of a male strip club patron, which is sexual assault and probably deeply traumatizing for that poor guy. 

However assuredly Victim must have presented said butt. I’m just thinking maybe this was self-defense on Stormy’s part.

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5 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

Strawman much?

Not really, and definitely not here.  A straw man is when you invent an argument and then tear it down. I used your exact words about crime and punishment- literally cut and pasted them- and applied them to your exact hypothetical  (the president has an unpaid parking ticket). 

It's OK to disagree about politics but mislabeling rhetorical devices should be a bannable offense IMO.

 

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6 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

Not really, and definitely not here.  A straw man is when you invent an argument and then tear it down. I used your exact words about crime and punishment- literally cut and pasted them- and applied them to your exact hypothetical  (the president has an unpaid parking ticket). 

It's OK to disagree about politics but mislabeling rhetorical devices should be a bannable offense IMO.

 

Yeah you may have gone a little overboard on your comparison. But that is expected so have fun with it.

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