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Jets got PCR tests back and everyone tested negative, incl. the person with the inconclusive/"presumed positive" test from earlier
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In all seriousness this is great news.Jets got PCR tests back and everyone tested negative, incl. the person with the inconclusive/"presumed positive" test from earlier
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I have them going in my local dynasty. How could we not?Picked up the Arizona defense in two leagues I'm in.
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I don't know. I even waiver bid in Summerpalooza for them. Maybe it'll help me win the week.I have them going in my local dynasty. How could we not?
And hired Matt Rhule.Maybe they should have just went with Bridgewater when they had him?
Always really liked Teddy's performance that preseason, but the Jets really couldn't keep both guys realistically. Of course, I know you know that because, well, we discussed it. Suppose they could have kept Teddy, though. What exactly would Sam have learned? Maccagnan wasn't putting anything around him, and Teddy was just literally getting his legs back under him at that point. He hadn't even taken a hit yet because I remember him saying he felt back once he got drilled.Maybe they should have just went with Bridgewater when they had him?
Bridgewater would have got killed by the Jets.Always really liked Teddy's performance that preseason, but the Jets really couldn't keep both guys realistically. Of course, I know you know that because, well, we discussed it. Suppose they could have kept Teddy, though. What exactly would Sam have learned? Maccagnan wasn't putting anything around him, and Teddy was just literally getting his legs back under him at that point. He hadn't even taken a hit yet because I remember him saying he felt back once he got drilled.
Anyway...the Jets...a ####show from ownership down. Dumpster fire that reeks of petrol.
Once his players execute his game plans, watch out.Drunken Cowboy said:Gase fired yet?
Done.I know this is crazy but in lieu of the horrific injury to Dak and the leadership to take you to the promised land for Trevor Lawrence, why not trade Darnold to Dallas, not sure exactly what you could get but my thinking is that Dallas is good enough to where they won't be able to Draft a young QB and then develop them, that offense is built to win now and Dak is going to be gone a long time. Maybe Darnold couldn't help them as much this year but they have a cheap QB to teach him the playbook, he has a lot of game experience and then you can stock pile losses with Joe Flacco and get Trevor plus stock pile draft picks...follow my logic here?
McCarthy is going to want to keep himself working and there's no way he can sit back with Dak gone for 18+ months and Kitna as his main QB and just shrug his shoulders. He needs a reality does of where he is at, they need another arm to keep developing. That's just my overreaction today and would be interested in your thoughts, cheers Jets Fans.
In the words of my old message board I used to be a part of -- we used to use this phrase especially whenever there was police brutality that was met with indifference by most yet was of the most egregious sort (think of BLM without race and before the past year. Like seven years ago or so.) -- anyway, I digress. The phrase? "Why? Because #### you, that's why!"why was james morgan drafted?
It’s not very often that teams end up regretting moving on from an unproven QB after a few years. Especially if they have an opportunity to draft a highly rated QB. The Cards moved on from Rosen real quick and it was clearly the right move. I can’t think of too many times where a team gave up on a QB early and that QB proved the team wrong. Drew Brees maybe?Of course even during a season where the Jets look like a lock to “earn” the no. 1 pick, There has to be a record number of horrific teams to battle it out with them. Of course the Giants, Atlanta, Jax, Cinncy and the other bottom dwellers have actually been in most of their games unlike the Jets so there’s still hope. The rest of the season has to be an audition for Sam to try and turn things back around so the team can decide if they move on with Lawrence or trade the pick for a haul and continue to build around Darnold.
Agree. While it's hard to truly judge Darnold with this supporting cast and with Gase being so overmatched but at some point he needs to rise above the mess and show he's a franchise QB. He's shown flashes during his first two seasons but at this point he seems broken and this has been his worst season so far. My preference would be to turn the page with Lawrence and I have read some reports stating the Jets would be able to move Darnold for a second and maybe even a late first - not sure I buy that, but even better if so.It’s not very often that teams end up regretting moving on from an unproven QB after a few years. Especially if they have an opportunity to draft a highly rated QB. The Cards moved on from Rosen real quick and it was clearly the right move. I can’t think of too many times where a team gave up on a QB early and that QB proved the team wrong. Drew Brees maybe?
Firing Gase would help this as well - Gase refuses to showcase Bell nor give Perine any run to develop......I respect the heck out of Frank Gore but every snap he takes is an absolute waste on this team.....firing Gase would help increase Bell's trade value and get Perine some much needed starts to see if they have something or need to invest next year.Douglas has to start shopping Bell. The one reason to keep him around is to not take away another weapon from Sam, but Gase refuses to use Bell properly anyway. There's not much difference if Sam hands the ball to Gore or Bell to run up the middle for 3 yards.
I'm nor sure it tells us much to be honest. I don't think Perine has looked bad I just think he's being buried by a stubborn coach that seems to like running up the gut and only running up the gut. As far as Mims goes, I'm still not willing to write him off. I get drafting "durable" players but how do you really know that. I think Mims was a good prospect at a position of need. I'm not saying he's not a bust but I'm surely not saying he is yet.The ones that are getting healthy like Davis and Perine arent even getting snaps on the worst team in the league....what does that tell you?
Yeah, the apathy is palpable.I cant believe I am so apethetic only 5 weeks in - with so many more games to go but here we are....I cant even do my usual rundown of all positions but instead some random thoughts
If Johnson is stubbornly going to refuse to fire Gase after 2 HCs with Superbowl and continual playoff experience are fired based on same records then he needs to come out and face the heat every week. The Jets were always the underdog franchise in the NFL....the Clippers to the Lakers so to speak....but even in their mediocre history there has never been a run like this. They are the joke of the league....every announcer, pundit, commentator, coach, GM, fan I have heard literally laughs at them and confirms they are the worst franchise in the NFL and its not even close....every time you think it cant get any worse it does.....yet Johnson stubbornly limps along.....they deserve the coming loss of sponsors and season ticket holders next year.
Living through the Kotite years was bad - but it was clear that that team just didnt know how to win - Parcells fixed that.....this team is simply bad. the coaching, the players and yes the GM have been bad. JD still gets a pass based on the Mac mess but he essentially did a Idzizk and punted on the year - he needs to take a hit for that......his draft besides Becton (who the franchise allowed Gase to play injured) and a punter has been god awful. I know they are injured but part of a draft is to draft durable players.....one or two injuries are fine but the entire class reflects poorly on the organization. The ones that are getting healthy like Davis and Perine arent even getting snaps on the worst team in the league....what does that tell you? It is a train wreck talent wise and watching guys who wont be here for the future like Flacco, Bell, Gore, Hogan, etc is brutal.
I doubt Bell is worth anything - however, I would be fine with them selling Crowder. I'm sure he can return a 4th, maybe even a 3rd if JD really panhandles someone.Douglas has to start shopping Bell. The one reason to keep him around is to not take away another weapon from Sam, but Gase refuses to use Bell properly anyway. There's not much difference if Sam hands the ball to Gore or Bell to run up the middle for 3 yards.
I add Maye to that short list - but it wouldn't be a devastating loss. Yes this team just does not have a ton of talent - but I still have faith in Douglas. I think he's a smart football guy and I think it should be obvious why he's holding onto the cap space and not wasting it on band aids for a team that has no chance to win.You want to get really depressed - lets say there was an expansion draft tomorrow - who are the players that other teams would really want as pieces and we would hate to lose......I can only come up with 1 player...Becton.....maybe Crowder who should be a very good #3 WR for a winning team. The rest I literally wouldnt flinch or be upset, if they were traded, cut or whatever. That's 1-2 players in an entire franchise....Im not putting Sam on the list because he is due to make $20M after last year - no team in the league is going to pay that based on what he has done.....he will likely go to a winning team like SF/Pit/Indy and be a backup for a year and then have a solid career......it just wont be here because they ruined him. I used to dream about finding a franchise QB now they had one and blew it.....I am hoping they get Lawrence more to just reset the clock contract wise. If they give him similar poor coaching and players he will be lousy too.
I was being sarcastic. I'm definitely rooting for them to get the #1 pick although that hasn't always been the most welcome topic on this board.The biggest concern is ownership, and that is almost impossible to get changed. However, if you want to flip the script, the Jets and the fans have to commit to and buy into a realistically achievable goal. It can't be to win games because that's not realistic, but if the goal is to get the 1.01 pick to help start the rebuild then that's a possibility.
If that's the goal then I can think of some of positives. Gase is still the head coach. If anyone can get the Jets to 1.01, it's him. Another is that Douglas' first draft class hasn't done anything this year, aside from Becton for a couple of games. If they were to step up, the Jets might win some games and that won't help them get 1.01. Douglas could have done a better job of selecting players, but it's the coach's job to develop those players and if the goal is 1.01, you have the right coaching staff to not develop the young players. Gase really only had one goal - to develop Darnold - and he hasn't done that at all. That's a good way to get 1.01. Yet another positive is that the Jets are one of the most penalized and undisciplined teams in the league. You don't win games that way so that definitely helps get to 1.01.
When you really think about it, there's a lot of things to be positive about when you have the right goals.
I don't think he's worth anything either, but with no real cap hit and with Gase not willing to use him anyway, I'd take a 5th or 6th just to at least give some ammunition to move around in next year's draft.I doubt Bell is worth anything -
I defended Sam for the past couple of years, but I stopped after like game 1 this season.Speaking of Darnold, did anybody see Chase Stuart's tweet about how realistic it was to think he'll turn things around? He pluggged in starters in the league for three years with the ANY/A and Y/A of Darnold and it brought up some ugly names in comparison. Like Christian Ponder and Kyle Boller.
The Sam experiment looks dead statistically, it looks dead to the eye, it feels ghosty. Let's bury it and speak of it no more.
As a Miami Dolphin fan I am scared ####less they are going to pull this off and I almsot hope we throw a couple games to increase our pick since we aren't quite all there yet and also so we don't see Trevor Lawrence in a Gang Green uniform turning into the Green Lantern and destroying us defensively Twice a year I might add for the next Decade...I'll Pass thank you very much.The biggest concern is ownership, and that is almost impossible to get changed. However, if you want to flip the script, the Jets and the fans have to commit to and buy into a realistically achievable goal. It can't be to win games because that's not realistic, but if the goal is to get the 1.01 pick to help start the rebuild then that's a possibility.
If that's the goal then I can think of some of positives. Gase is still the head coach. If anyone can get the Jets to 1.01, it's him. Another is that Douglas' first draft class hasn't done anything this year, aside from Becton for a couple of games. If they were to step up, the Jets might win some games and that won't help them get 1.01. Douglas could have done a better job of selecting players, but it's the coach's job to develop those players and if the goal is 1.01, you have the right coaching staff to not develop the young players. Gase really only had one goal - to develop Darnold - and he hasn't done that at all. That's a good way to get 1.01. Yet another positive is that the Jets are one of the most penalized and undisciplined teams in the league. You don't win games that way so that definitely helps get to 1.01.
When you really think about it, there's a lot of things to be positive about when you have the right goals.
No cap hit? I assumed the opposite...I would agree then, maybe a late pick. Sell it all.I don't think he's worth anything either, but with no real cap hit and with Gase not willing to use him anyway, I'd take a 5th or 6th just to at least give some ammunition to move around in next year's draft.
moving up one of the Fin games actually helps the Jets as Fitz should still be the QB.....as long as the Fins are in contention they will likely play Fitz.....my only fear for a win is if the Jets play Tua.As a Miami Dolphin fan I am scared ####less they are going to pull this off and I almsot hope we throw a couple games to increase our pick since we aren't quite all there yet and also so we don't see Trevor Lawrence in a Gang Green uniform turning into the Green Lantern and destroying us defensively Twice a year I midd add for the next Decade...I'll Pass thank you very much.
The good thing for Miami is that they also own Houston's first round pick which is looking like top 10 pick right now as well.As a Miami Dolphin fan I am scared ####less they are going to pull this off and I almsot hope we throw a couple games to increase our pick since we aren't quite all there yet and also so we don't see Trevor Lawrence in a Gang Green uniform turning into the Green Lantern and destroying us defensively Twice a year I might add for the next Decade...I'll Pass thank you very much.
You should hope they let Gase continue on and draw up game plans, otherwise the next coach might do something stupid like fire everyone up and win 2-3 games down the stretch.moving up one of the Fin games actually helps the Jets as Fitz should still be the QB.....as long as the Fins are in contention they will likely play Fitz.....my only fear for a win is if the Jets play Tua.
all the guaranteed money is basically done now.No cap hit? I assumed the opposite...I would agree then, maybe a late pick. Sell it all.
Miami has a soft schedule next many weeks until about December...6-6, 7-5, 8-4 believe it with some fo the cream puffs including your Jets twice coming up. Bengals, Chargers, just nothing besides the Rams but Miami closes with 4 playoff caliber teams, that will be the test of were they are and that's why i doubt Tua will see the field at all this year. What if Miami were to go on a run and finish 9-7, 10-6...Flores would have had an amazing turnaround from an 0-7 start and a team stripped down to the bare walls prior to 2019.The good thing for Miami is that they also own Houston's first round pick which is looking like top 10 pick right now as well.
To be honest I would have no problem with Tua not seeing the field this year - give the team a taste of success...if they fall out of it the last game or two then give the kid a cup of coffee. Much better to follow the Mahomes timeline then starting right away IMO.Miami has a soft schedule next many weeks until about December...6-6, 7-5, 8-4 believe it with some fo the cream puffs including your Jets twice coming up. Bengals, Chargers, just nothing besides the Rams but Miami closes with 4 playoff caliber teams, that will be the test of were they are and that's why i doubt Tua will see the field at all this year. What if Miami were to go on a run and finish 9-7, 10-6...Flores would have had an amazing turnaround from an 0-7 start and a team stripped down to the bare walls prior to 2019.
No 12 and No 18 is where they are forecasting the Two picks but we have Houston 2nd Round as well so maybe 4 of the Top 50 to add to this roster which is coming together.
His base salary is still $8.5m. That's a pro-rated $5m cap hit that no other team is going to take even if he was still a good player (which doesn't appear to be the case).I don't think he's worth anything either, but with no real cap hit and with Gase not willing to use him anyway, I'd take a 5th or 6th just to at least give some ammunition to move around in next year's draft.
The way he has been used I definitely agree.....if they would actually showcase him and show he's still got something to give - I could see a playoff team hit by injuries take him on in a few weeks when the pro rated hit goes down...most likely he will be here for the season thoughHis base salary is still $8.5m. That's a pro-rated $5m cap hit that no other team is going to take even if he was still a good player (which doesn't appear to be the case).
I don't think you can give a team a draft pick (much less get one) to take him off our hands considering next year's cap situation.
Could not agree more with you. The OL inadvertently thru injury might have found their groove and Hunt settled in at RT, he was the #39 overall pick this year and has had a few weeks to watch Jackson get manhandled, he looked sensational for a Rookie in his 1st game. What's even better is RT would be Tua's blind side in theory...if Hunt is the real deal and a better than average player, i get more comfortable with Tua at least having a small set of designed plays like those Wildcat formations we were running yesterday.To be honest I would have no problem with Tua not seeing the field this year - give the team a taste of success...if they fall out of it the last game or two then give the kid a cup of coffee. Much better to follow the Mahomes timeline then starting right away IMO.