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On a totally unrelated note. Good luck with the new coach, I really thought he would end up coming back home. He grew up in my hometown and went to a rival HS in my city. He still shows up to their HS games from time to time.
Maybe they should fire Saleh. I hear offensive genius Adam Gase is available.Not really. I just dissent from the good vibes. I don't want to. I really wanted an offensive coach to coach the Jets. If you've watched us the past twenty years religiously, you might have the same feeling. We haven't moved the ball effectively since Vinny Testaverde. That's some 1998 stuff. Before anybody chimes in with Pennington, he never had a strong arm and good defenses adjusted even before his injury, hence getting wiped by the Raiders in '02 in the playoffs the year he was remotely effective.
I don't care if we lose, frankly, I'm just tired of losing ugly, which is what I see a lot of with our new DL coach. Lots of money in the defensive line, just like when we had Sheldon Richardson/Muhammad Wilkerson/Leonard Williams and Todd Bowles as head coach. I see 10-6 as our ceiling with that arrangement in today's football. Even the Giants, who dominated the SB with guys like Strahan, Osi, and Justin Tuck (and JPP for the second one, IIRC) had some legendary guys at the position. We're going to spend all our money going from a 3-4 to a 4-3 because now the front has got to be paid. And we have paid tied up in our linebacker Moseley and first-round capital in Williams, who's an interior guy.
All in all, it's not a happy day. I've never been impressed with a guy that jumps up and down on the sidelines as a head coach kind of guy. I mean, Shanahan had his prints all over that team.
So after reading my reasoning, you conclude I just want to be miserable.
He had a fumble for a td in his one healthy game.
With the greatest DL to play the game in twenty years and maybe the best corner to play in ten, yes. They made the final eight after squeaking into the playoffs because Kyler Murray was hurt. They weren't very good this year. They were a six seed with that type of capital investment in those guys. I'm saying that they're fighting odds in today's NFL. Why fight them when you can try and go with them?
It's probably somewhere in the middle, and less definitively towards high investment than you think. MacKinnon's deal was for four years at 30M. Only 18.25M was guaranteed. He played for 910,000 dollars this year. Coleman was on the last year of a four million dollar deal and he was supposed to be their starter. They extended Mostert from about 1 million to 2.1 million and gave him money when he squawked about starter money this off-season. All told this off-season, they had eight-ten million total at the position. That's not that much. They dumped Breida after making him a second-round tender and got out of his salary, full well knowing they were going with Mostert, Coleman, and Wilson. JaMycal Hasty was a UDFA who made the team. Salvon Ahmed was another UDFA signing -- he wound up in Miami. All told, they haven't used draft capital on a running back and they certainly weren't in the market for a marquee guy. MacKinnon had been the backup in MN before his payday. He was the exception to the rule. I doubt they invest heavily in another RB going forward, though they're going to have to get help sometime. Neither Mostert nor Wilson can stay healthy. The collisions they run into at their BMI is unsustainable.
Dude - you’re stretching it now.
You’re reading way too much into the backgrounds of HC. All three of the other HCs in the AFC East have defensive backgrounds but they still have potent offenses - well not the Pats THIS season but you get the idea.
They're hiring a defensive guy and keeping Sam around, per sources. I think that's enough reason to piss and moan a bit.
Well, it’s up to you I suppose.
I think this is really true, and wise. The only counter-argument I would have is that they might not be in any position to draft one next year, and it might be difficult to even sign even a bridge guy. There aren't that many kicking around. There certainly aren't many easily groomed through the draft, so this year would seem to be the year to do it.
IHEARTFF said:
Your rebuttal was certainly taken by me. I was getting maybe hung up with language. Saying "you can't pass on a chance" is just a different way of saying it than saying, "you have to draft the right QB" is all I'm saying.
Just for clarification - the Ravens traded back into the 1st round to take Lamar Jackson in '18.
That's what I think. Eventually teams are going to come around to that principle and will use draft capital appropriately. Until then, it's safeties in the top ten for organizations run like the Jets were.
Ah, well. The bad orange man has been prompting some lengthy-### bannings. Wish TLEF well for us.
Agreed - not putting Q in the deal.....Id do a max deal of the #2 this yr and a 1st rder the next 2 yes after for a total of 3 1st rders (solely due to having the Seattle picks this yr and next - thx Jamal)....happy to throw in Darnold if they want him. Maybe some window dressing mid rd picks or a swap here and there - but not dealing a potential Pro Bowler on a rookie contract in addition and I cant see JD or Saleh doing that as well.
If that's the haul, you do that in a heartbeat. You have the number two pick but your big need is QB and there aren't any apparently any good enough in the entire class. And maybe not next year's, either. You take Watson and run.Andy Dufresne said:
Behind that OL even Darnold would look good.....not a ton of options out there either
