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I wouldn't trust McCags to tie my shoelaces correctly, but moving into the top 3 was a must move.
Be that as it may, this is the way to win in today’s NFL. Get your franchise QB, and go from there. You’re in purgatory without it.
This again?Dr. Octopus said:
You absolutely did and you cannot drop the subject. You need to move on with your life. Jeremy Kerley did not cost this team a win. He did not cost Chad Hansen or ArDarius Stewart playing time. Those players cost themselves playing time by not outplaying Kerley. It is that simple. Other rookies have started during the Todd Bowles era.
I’ve explained my position to you at least 6-7 times. I can’t do it again as you obviously will not understand it, if you still think I wanted them to try and lose games on purpose.
Sometimes I don't trust the "not outplaying" someone. Sometimes, the coaches decisions are influenced by vet vs. rookie, contract, draft pick, etc. Maybe sometimes the light doesn't switch on until true game conditions. The Rex Ryan Jets had Danny Woodhead. What happened? The kept that tease WR Clowny over him, iirc. Woodhead didn't outplay Shonn Greene or Joe McKnight? I find that almost impossible to believe. I realize it's years ago and another staff, but it speaks to reasons why some guys might play over others that is not 100% performance based.
I highly doubt they made the move only liking 2 QBs out of the 4.....they know the Giants may take a QB so Im confident they are high on the top 3....which ones that is Im not sure...we will see!
My bad...I thought they moved to the four spot. They have the three spot....that makes a little more sense anyway.
Yup.....
It angers me that they anointed him already. Once they draft a QB, McCown should be third on the depth chart so that he does not take valuable reps away from the rookie and so that the team can see if Bridgewater can play.
The problem is having conflicting goals and doing things through half measures.
Agree. So what's the plan with Teddy on a one-year deal? . If he shows that he can play and at a high level, do we trade him at the deadline? If he does really well this season and knowing that we have a rookie ready for 2019, do we franchise and trade him? If he's playing at a top level, do we re-sign him or let him go for a rookie QB that hasn't proven anything yet? We're pretty much committed to a top 3 drafted QB.
That's why the one year deal was a little strange (both for him and the team). Honestly now that I know we are getting/taking a QB in the draft for sure, it makes it even more curious and as much as I like him, maybe they shouldn't even have signed him if they HAD to sign McCown as well.
I don't see them drafting a lineman in the third either. I can see them trading down to pick up another 4th rounder or I can see them picking a RB in the third. They were hard after McKinnon, so I can see them grabbing a pass-catching RB in the third or 4th round.
OvertheCap shows us with $57m, but that's not including Bridgewater, Long, Ijalana, Santos,and Pierre-Louis. No Williamson either So maybe around $34m?
I guess I can see that now...if four are gone by the 6th slot, then they would have failed, had not moved up. I am not sure that will be the case, and I would have really liked for them to spend some of those second rounders on O-line. My main point is, a good evaluator knows exactly what he wants and in what order. Moving up at this juncture kind of shows he is fine with the top 3 (which does not scream confidence). What if one of those top 3 gets hit by a bus tomorrow? Too much currency and too many risks for my blood.
Nothing about this management or organization screams confidence.
1). He should fire his agent...I know things have changed, but everyone thought they were shooting for QB regardless
Nothing is impossible, but I would bet the farm this does not happen. CLE is under too much pressure to get a QB to skip one at 1. As pointed out before passing on QB's in recent drafts has bit them and they really don't have a choice but to take one at the top spot. I also think NYG would have made a trade with NYJ if they were not thinking QB at 2. Jets will most likely have their choice of the leftovers at 3.Chemical X said:
I see almost zero chance that the Brown's do not take a QB - especially now that the Jet's have traded to pick 3. I could see the Giants taking Barkley though. The best case scenario for the Jets at this point is them taking the second QB off the board - with of course a good chance it's the third.
I keep seeing people say this, but I'm not so sure it has to be true.
I am not claiming to know more than anyone else, just me speculating. I just cannot imagine not taking that ransom just to sit tight for an RB, especially when this RB group is so deep. I certainly could be wrong. Although they saw what Elliot did for Dallas so it is certainly a possibility.
Yeah that "Everyone acts like they know everything" wasn't meant as a swipe at you - I was talking generally to make a point.
It was a great package - especially for the Colts who need a lot of help - but I don't really think it was some "no brainer" ransom either. It was an early second, a late second and a future second, which is not exactly any sure things.
Your opinion is changing my view. If the NYG truly believe that Eli has 2-3 years left than I can see Barkley being the best option. Help your elderly QB with a sound running game to get back to the play-action with the downfield threats.
As a Lions' fan, with the benefit of hindsight knowing you won nothing while he was in Detroit, if you could have traded Barry Sanders for the 6th pick overall and 3 second round picks would you have done it? Because that's what we're talking about here. And, of course, there's no guarantee Barkley is even close to being Sanders-esque.
Do I trade a HOF skill position guy for one 1st and three 2nds?.....nope. I guess if they are sold on Barkley being a difference maker I would sit tight and draft him.
You think the Lions would have traded Barry Sanders for 3 second round picks?
