Pipes
Footballguy
Horrible. The only reason to trade Rodgers is because Love is your guy. The key part of a Rodgers trade should not be a QB in return
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Pipes
Footballguy
KingPrawn
Footballguy
I'd say you all had too much to drink if you think that is enough in return for Rodgers. That's like the one manager in fantasy football who always throws out terrible draft proposals.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
No. They should be able to do better if they trade him. For that, Id play hard ball and let him sit.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Right, at least one #1 in return or nothing is happening. Something tells me they can get much more.
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Deamon
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
Rodgers is such an amazing player but I've never been a fan of him at all as a person.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
The strange thing for me is that I've ready nothing about Love's development all year. With Rodgers, I remember lots of reports from his first couple years, most of them negative. I wish someone would ask Gutekunst or LaFleur to comment on how Love looks, now that they've had a full year to see him up close. Not that I'd expect a completely honest answer, but I want to hear it anyway.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I assume he wants 5 years. The Packers have reportedly offered an extension that he turned down. I think any team he plays for will have to give him a contract that makes him highest QB paid (for now) for 5 years, huge signing money and over $100m guaranteed.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Id rather see if they would with another player. With Stokes, Jaire, and having just paid King too...I think another need would be better served.
Balco
Footballguy
When Rodgers goes this is a complete rebuild, so need at accumulate talent. I understand Stokes was a first but can never have too many corners. Kings is hot garbage and on a one year deal. Heck I would offer him in the deal to the Broncos.
az_prof
Footballguy
Well it isn't the same level of star power, but Detroit and LA swapped starting QBs this year. And Wilson has a history in Wisconsin so he might like the trade. Both would be going to competitive teams.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I wouldn't call it a complete rebuild. If they trade #12, they'll need a quarterback, whether that's a backup for Jordan Love, a replacement or placeholder for Jordan Love or whatever, but for me its really a one-position rebuild. That said, I agree cornerback will always have value and I'm sure the Packers would be interested.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Have you watched this team play without Rodgers? (Rhetorical - I know that you have)
He covers up a LOT of warts. Presumably we would find a serviceable veteran to start for a year or two.
Balco
Footballguy
Losing Rodgers would be a complete rebuild. We should be of mindset you play for championships and losing Rodgers takes us out of that. It can’t be understated how much he means to that offense. Aside from Davonte and Aaron Jones there is no skill position player that would have an even modicum of success on another team. Rodgers makes everyone around him exponentially better.
The thing that makes me mad is why did he choose to leak it now? Why not say after they drafted love (which was the dumbest decision I can recall in recent memory. So I am not absolving Gute for that horrendous draft last year) that he wants out. Then management can focus on how to rebuild. It certainly wouldn’t involve paying an aging (but all pro) tackle $100,000,000. Or re-signing a top running back like Jones.
Disappointed in Rodgers. Best QB I have ever seen - and also the most selfish diva as well.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Yeah, I didn't mean they're a great team without Rodgers. I just wouldn't describe it as a complete rebuild. They're pretty well set at most position groups. They need someone better than Brett Hundley to make the playoffs, but I think they could with an average NFL starting QB.
That said, I still consider this all wild speculation on #12. Lots of it doesn't make sense to me.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I think patience is the advisable right now. You may be right, but there's lots of speculation and very few facts. The team says they've been aware of this for months, so I don't think it affected the draft. AJ Hawk spent the weekend with AR, and said earlier today the rumors about him wanting Gutekunst gone are "garbage" and that its not about Love or about money/contract. That doesn't leave much, but maybe there's some truth to the speculation that he's not feeling it in Green Bay and wants a change. He has a new wife and a massive new house in California.
Balco
Footballguy
He can tell AJ Hawk (another horrendous draft pick) whatever he wants. It’s first and foremost about his contract, and then I am sure a little bit of sting about Love being drafted. But definitely about money.
The packers will cave and he will get his long term deal. I’d be all for it if the packers were willing to show they are all in. But they haven’t.
Deamon
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya I would say goff/stafford was more one team upgrading their QB so not really the same.
I agree the trade seems so perfect (sure, make GB throw in some draft picks, that's fine).
I can't see why either team wouldn't do it. Seattle would probably increase their sb odds, and GB gets a top 5 qb in the league who wants to throw the ball a lot. They'd still be a contender.
I don't think it will happen, but I want it too so badly.
Pipes
Footballguy
Rodgers has made so much money over his career and he will make a ton more. I really think this is about control. With that Love selection a message was sent to Rodgers that he has none. He doesn't like that and now is being a vindictive little #####. Seeing Tampa add a ton of pieces around Brady I'm sure digs at Rodgers as well even though it's his contract that prevents GB from doing that very thing.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Hahahahaha. Aj Hawk. Amazing.
Rodgers is just trying to do damage control, and find a different narrative now, because when he floated the narrative of “I want Gute fired” (stealthily, via intermediaries, without a direct quote from ARod) people shifted toward the Packers side. Before that it was “man, the Packers have done Rodgers dirty, can you believe they drafted Love?” But once Rodgers said that he wanted Gute fired (allegedly), perception turned on him fast. So now he’s backtracking. Via good buddy AJ Hawk.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Agreed...that was the Tirico leak too...damage control...saying how much he loves GB and the fans.
sho nuff
Footballguy
If you are Murphy right now...you are betting on this:
-Aaron Rodgers..and dealing with possible backlash of letting a player dictate this much.
-Jordan Love and Gutey...and possibly pissing off other players and fanbase.
Backlash being a big part of both...it would be hard for me to bet against Rodgers for Gutey and Love. Because if it gies bad...he will be gone too.
This doesn’t absolve Rodgers and how he has handled this...pissed at all three at this point (Rodgers, Murphy, and Gutey)
-Aaron Rodgers..and dealing with possible backlash of letting a player dictate this much.
-Jordan Love and Gutey...and possibly pissing off other players and fanbase.
Backlash being a big part of both...it would be hard for me to bet against Rodgers for Gutey and Love. Because if it gies bad...he will be gone too.
This doesn’t absolve Rodgers and how he has handled this...pissed at all three at this point (Rodgers, Murphy, and Gutey)
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I'm not pissed at any of them. It just demonstrates how incompetently they've all handled this situation in their own ways.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Its heading that was most likely anyway as bad as this has gone.
Only way Murphy and Gutey make it out of this is of Jordan Love is great
Capella
Footballguy
Have to think if it comes to this the Pack would go after Gruden right? He’d give up a massive draft package for the guy. Probably would be one of the biggest overpays in nfl history.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Now the Browns are in the rumor mix per Twitter dot com.
Starting to seem like a game of “how many teams morale can we ruin at once?”
just a big soap opera. As the Rodgers turns.
Starting to seem like a game of “how many teams morale can we ruin at once?”
just a big soap opera. As the Rodgers turns.
Balco
Footballguy
I was just talking about Las Vegas as a dark horse - maycock and gruden have no long term plan, I am sure they would give a boatload of assets for Rodgers.
Capella
Footballguy
Gruden and Mayock are completely clueless and desperate which is a dangerous combination. GB could really eat their lunch here, would be pretty funny to see happen.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’d have the best TE he’s had in some time (maybe ever) and a handful of not terrible receivers (though not great) and a couple excellent RBs.
He’d also have a mediocre OL (TBD if improved from last year) and a defense that would ensure he’d be throwing a lot.
And he’d be going to a division with the Chargers, Broncos & Chiefs and a conference with the Bills & Ravens.
To all of it I say, “hey, good luck with that”.
Capella
Footballguy
What? How do you lowball an offer when like 6 teams are making one? Doesn’t even make sense.
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