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That’s cool. I hadn’t noticed another dynasty thread for some reason.
Fair enough. Maybe rename this one "Dynasty Strategy Discussion" (since we're in the Thread Naming Police era of the Shark Pool
) and the difference, and worth, of each thread will be obvious.
Can you give examples of who you consider a "long term WR2 type" - because maybe I'm not fully understanding what you're saying because unless you are so stacked that you have three WR1s to fill your 3 WR slots carrying WR2 types seems like a plausible strategy.
You named some of the WRs that are rostered in nearly every dynasty league I have absolutely no interest in. I hope I don’t piss off the Sanu, Matthews, etc., owners, LOL, but it’s simply my preferred way of doing things.
I don't consider them WR2 types - I see them as low end depth. I can agree that generally speaking carrying guys like that is not optimal - although I do kind of like Sanu as depth.
Maybe a better description would be non-“go-to” WRs. Depending on the offense, I could be interested in more than the top WR, but in general, I literally completely ignore guys like Sanu, Matthews, & Ginn, all who scored over 100 points in NON-PPR last season which is a pretty dang productive WR.
Yeah, now that I think about it, I should’ve said “NFL #2s who don’t have a strong talent/situation combination”. That would be more accurate.
It really depends on the state of the rest of your roster. If you're building for the future, load up on all the youth and upside lottery tickets and hope to either pocket a winner or sell for a profit on hype/short-term production.
I tend to use the same strategies, but adjusting a roster spot or two to gain a short term advantage can make sense in the right situation.
We differ quite a bit, but the successful strategy is the one you can employ well.
I typically carry only a couple “throwaways”. Guys I wouldn’t mind dropping for a need.
Yeah, roster size would affect your thinking somewhat.
The majority of the dynasty lgs I'm in are 50-60 man rosters with taxi squads, where I would hold on to someone like Sanu and Sanders. The one lg I'm in that we roster 25 I tend to ignore those types myself since there are usually serviceable guys on the wire. In the deeper lgs I tend to hold on to rb's and wr's for 2-3 years if they show any flashes at all. In the smaller lg I usually turn them over multiple times a year. I have dropped a few guys to soon but I usually make up for it by not keeping guys like Caroo and Treadwell wasting a roster spot.
Totally depends on the league size and whether I'm contending or building. In one larger league I've done well targeting guys like Eddie Kennison, Emmanuel Sanders, etc. Not sexy but productive when around 64 WRs start.
I have when competing, traded a lesser kicker and a late pick for gostkowski a couple years ago. Sadly that lesser kicker was Greg Z.
In my largest league, probably 6-8 of the 50 player roster are dropable, without much value.
Kickers have been (mercifully) extinguished from all but one of my dynasty leagues. In the one league that requires them, 30 points separated the top 10 kickers.
[soapbox]
IMO, most leagues with benches this deep would benefit enormously by increasing their starting lineup requirements. I think the standard 1/2/3/1/1/1 or 1/2/2/1/1/1/1 setups are comically inadequate for all but the largest league sizes.
Very interesting concept of a K/DST flex if you can equalize their scoring a bit. HAve you actually done this in any league you’re in?
PK and D/ST - already outscore a whole bunch of position players. Jacksonville D.ST was the 33rd overall ranked "player" in fantasy points in one of my leagues (QBs occupied 16 of the 32 spots before that) finishing ahead of Adam Thielen, Tyreek Hill, Leonard Fournette, and Christian McCafrrey among others and the top PK (Zeurline) finished ahead of the likes of Cooper Kupp, CJ Anderson, Evan Engram, Delanie Walker and TY Hilton and Gostkowski was right there with him/them.
In your shoes, I would certainly be looking to consolidate a bit. I’d go as far as Howard + Juju for a top tier WR. But certainly Howard + WR2 for WR1.
In my non-PPR league (didn’t look at any others), the top-10 skill positions were separated by only about a 1.5 per game or so more than the difference in the Ks (TE was a little more due to Gronk).
I use a similar approach. The more studs the better, IMO (in general).
To me, the answer is to remove the chaff of K and DST, and increase the number of flex starters.
All things being equal I always want the younger player.
I agree with this to an extent but I think a couple things -
