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Here is a ranking of the Week 15 defenses.  In bold is the defense followed by average points scored.  Next is their opponent and average points allowed to opposing defenses.  Lastly, the two numbers

Might pre-emptively pick up Green Bay Packers, after this week their next 3 are BUF, DET, SF

Lots of people may have scooped up MIA. I wasn't one of them given waiver priority.  But in the interest of looking down the stretch with Ds that have become "hot" as of late and that streamers ma

1 hour ago, Scooby1974 said:

I'm in the same dilemma. Pitt D has been great but they are facing a top Off and have lost some key players on the Defensive side.

Their D is still inspired as success breeds success. Perhaps they give up 2-3 TD's and 2-3 FG's or 24 - 30 points? They can still produce turnovers and sacks and has just as good as a defensive TD as any other team. Losing a few defensive stars allows others to shine as well. It does add to the equation. I mean what's left to play that is any better then PIT D. Not much. Pivoting to J Hill at QB is not necessarily a better call either. Dilemma is right.

I realize it's not ideal by any means starting Allen vs PIT D. In this one game I could have Allen and Beasley, Connor and Claypool and PIT D. Five players in one basket is not necessarily a good formula maximizing success. I could sit Claypool for Hollywood. But playing against Hollywood in the playoffs in another league. Not that this should matter. I see Claypool as a WR 3 / Flex and Hollywood as a WR 3/4 with Flex potential too.

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5 hours ago, papacapps said:

Riding the Bucs & Browns as long as I stay in the playoffs.

You and me both, hoss.

:hifive:

Though if I am honest, I think TB is more a back-up play. After the first round playoff bye, I think I'd rather trot CLE@NYG, CLE@NYJ are both > TB@ATL and TB@DET. 

All of these games in weeks 15 and 16 for both teams are on the road. In this day and age of COVID, that's not as much of a concern, but something to think about.

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2 hours ago, SproutDaddy said:

Got a first round bye.  Have Pitt against Cinci and picked up Browns against Jets if I make the title game.

I have the same exact plan except I do have SF for this weekend (no bye) so with one game at a time, It'll be SF, PIT, CLE

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With a bye this week looking ahead to week 15.

Just dumped NO who faces KC next week for Mia (vs NE). Hated to drop NO D, but definitely not playing them next week and the week 16 matchup vs MN isn't that great either.

Also just dumped the SF D for the BUF D who face Denver in Denver next week. SF D is in Dallas and they looked competent against the BALT D. 

Miami and BUF Ds for next week. Worry about that decision in a few days. Crossing fingers for a blizzard in Denver.

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8 reasons the Eagles' defense is better than you think

Defense does its part with sacks, takeaways vs. Saints

Playoffs? Playoffs? Don’t count it out if the Eagles’ defense keeps this up.

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Eagles DB Darius Slay is in the league's concussion protocol. 

Philadelphia's secondary was ravaged by injuries in Week 14 against the Saints. S Rodney McLeod (ACL) is done for the year, Slay is in the NFL's concussion protocol, and CB Avonte Maddox (knee) is expected to miss some time. The Eagles starting their B-team secondary against Arizona this week could mean good things for Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. 

RELATED: 

Avonte Maddox

, Rodney McLeod

SOURCE: Geoff Mosher on Twitter 

Dec 14, 2020, 12:36 PM ET

 

 

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2 hours ago, JoeSteeler said:

Have been rolling with the Rams and they have the Jets this week but picked up Texans for week 16 vs The Bengals...may have to re- think that 

I did EXACTLY this as well and am going to dump Houston and just roll with the Rams the next 2 weeks and cross my fingers they put up a few sacks and 1 or 2 turnovers in an important divisional game against Seattle. 

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Rams have been awesome....now they get the Jets in the semis so I am set there for this week.

Have a guy or two I can probably drop at this point with no worries to get that D set up possibly for next week...but maybe also to block my opponent this week (I will have waiver priority and he has the Saints D who I know he won't play against KC).

Looking at SF getting Dallas this week (which would probably be who he will pick up).

Other possibility is Cleveland (Giants this week, Jets next week)

Then there is Miami who was dropped (New England then Vegas).  While their schedule isn't the best...that D has been rock solid putting up points all year)

I will probably still end up playing the Rams even against Seattle (they put up good points against them last time) and hard to bench the #2 D...if it was just about who I think he may pick...probably SF.  But Miami being the #3 D in scoring just barely behind LA makes them tempting to keep from any other team as well.  Also looking ahead...the other two teams in the semis likely not making a move this week for a D unless they are setting up for week 16.  Ahh...just all the fun of trying to possibly block another team

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I stashed three Ds and now need to chose beween:

* BUF @DEN -- BUF D looked good last week, but against that fraud PIT offense. With a trip west, D. Lock looking like he's heating up, and NE up next to clinch that division I wonder if there is a Buffalo letdown.

* NE @MIA -- Miami offensive weapons are depleted, but NE usually has a tough time down there and it's not like their offense will do them any favors.

* Miami vs NE -- On the flip side is Miami vs the same NE team. Not sure the Miami offense will do them any favors either, but this D seems a bit more disruptive than NE.

Right now leaning Miami. That MIA/NE game seems like it could be a slugfest low scorere and Miami has still been getting turnovers (even against KC) and TDs.

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What about Cleveland? They finish the fantasy playoffs @ NYG and @ NYJ. They really aren't the best real-life D, but the matchups don't get much better. They've given up 47 and 35 the past 2 weeks, but that was to BAL and TEN, two far better offenses than the pair of NY teams. 

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43 minutes ago, Broncobiv said:

What about Cleveland? They finish the fantasy playoffs @ NYG and @ NYJ. They really aren't the best real-life D, but the matchups don't get much better. They've given up 47 and 35 the past 2 weeks, but that was to BAL and TEN, two far better offenses than the pair of NY teams. 

I’m in a league where points allowed doesn’t matter as much.  
 

im deciding between KC, Cleveland and Miami myself. 
 

Need Sacks, INTs and hold under 100 rushing yards would be nice. 

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8 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

* NE @MIA -- Miami offensive weapons are depleted, but NE usually has a tough time down there and it's not like their offense will do them any favors.

This is the pick. Bill Belichick has a strong track record when facing rookie QB's. Made Herbert look like a high schooler.

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8 hours ago, kyoun1e said:

I stashed three Ds and now need to chose beween:

* BUF @DEN -- BUF D looked good last week, but against that fraud PIT offense. With a trip west, D. Lock looking like he's heating up, and NE up next to clinch that division I wonder if there is a Buffalo letdown.

* Miami vs NE -- On the flip side is Miami vs the same NE team. Not sure the Miami offense will do them any favors either, but this D seems a bit more disruptive than NE.

Torn between these two. I can see NE running the ball all day and preventing Miami from racking up any good score save fumbles in that contest and I can also picture Denver at home putting up some good numbers with a hotter Lock. The matchups aren't that great this week on the wire.

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34 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Torn between these two. I can see NE running the ball all day and preventing Miami from racking up any good score save fumbles in that contest and I can also picture Denver at home putting up some good numbers with a hotter Lock. The matchups aren't that great this week on the wire.

Yup.

Hard for me to stop thinking about how terrible that NE offense was against the LAR though. And this after hammering LAC 45-0.

Miami D seems legit. How often is Mahommes picked off 3 times? 

Buffalo definitely seems like one of the top AFC teams now, but I wonder if they play down to the competition a little in a "sandwich" game.

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11 hours ago, Broncobiv said:

What about Cleveland? They finish the fantasy playoffs @ NYG and @ NYJ. They really aren't the best real-life D, but the matchups don't get much better. They've given up 47 and 35 the past 2 weeks, but that was to BAL and TEN, two far better offenses than the pair of NY teams. 

Yep, trying to decide between them and the Bucs against Atlanta.

I am leaning CLE but the last two games and the points they've allowed is concerning, even with softer match ups. Trends and recent momentum sometimes matter.

5 hours ago, rockaction said:

Torn between these two. I can see NE running the ball all day and preventing Miami from racking up any good score save fumbles in that contest and I can also picture Denver at home putting up some good numbers with a hotter Lock. The matchups aren't that great this week on the wire.

Between BUF v DEN and NE vs MIA I would be taking BUF despite being on the road. They are much better than DEN, and even though DEN's offense looked like they had a spark, I can't see BUF taking a foot off the gas.

NE vs MIA is the kind of game where anything can happen. Might be boom, might be bust.

My two cents, anyway.

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26 minutes ago, steelwind said:

Dodds has Ari ranked #3 and it’s throwing me off

Well crap...I have AZ in one league and was considering replacing them with CLE. Maybe I should stick with the stronger real life D instead of playing matchups (although AZ vs PHI still isn't that bad, even with Hurts). 

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1 hour ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Yep, trying to decide between them and the Bucs against Atlanta.

I am leaning CLE but the last two games and the points they've allowed is concerning, even with softer match ups. Trends and recent momentum sometimes matter.

Between BUF v DEN and NE vs MIA I would be taking BUF despite being on the road. They are much better than DEN, and even though DEN's offense looked like they had a spark, I can't see BUF taking a foot off the gas.

NE vs MIA is the kind of game where anything can happen. Might be boom, might be bust.

My two cents, anyway.

Good point about CLE and the last two games = momentum.  I picked them up to potentially start down the stretch.  I have had PIT and rolled with them all year.  Went w/ SF this past weekend which was negligible but think I have roll with PIT.

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37 minutes ago, steelwind said:

Dodds has Ari ranked #3 and it’s throwing me off

Staring at them on the wire and debating if they are a better play this week than the Bucs, who I would shed (retaining CLE for that WK 16 NYJ tilt).

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7 hours ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Staring at them on the wire and debating if they are a better play this week than the Bucs, who I would shed (retaining CLE for that WK 16 NYJ tilt).

I would think that the Eagles would still play it somewhat conservative with Hurts in there, 0 sacks & 0 INTs last week vs NO (although he threw 30 times).

Doug Peterson with backup QBs: 11-3 

With Wentz: 35-33-1 

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Looking ahead to week 16, since I'm set with the Rams this week vs NYJ.

 

Having trouble deciding about Rams (@SEA), Dolphins (@LV) or options like Bears (@Jax), or TB (@Det). Rams and Dolphins have been very solid as of late but look to have tougher matchups.

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7 hours ago, xenon said:

Good point about CLE and the last two games = momentum.  I picked them up to potentially start down the stretch.  I have had PIT and rolled with them all year.  Went w/ SF this past weekend which was negligible but think I have roll with PIT.

Watching that game, the only thing keeping Baltimore in it was Lamar Jackson going crazy with his legs. CLE's pass rush is legit, and they're going to put serious pressure on the Giants. I'm playing CLE especially if Denzel Ward suits up.

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On 12/11/2020 at 5:43 PM, themeistersinger said:

Looking to pick up for next week one of these two

Niners at Cowboys - SF currently favored by 3.5

Browns at Giants - CLE currently favored by 3

Currently have Seahawks - next week they are at Washington - Seahawks favored by 3.5

In the same boat.  Smith has WFT playing well right now.  I'm going with CLE vs NYG, then carrying them over vs NYJ if I make the finals.

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Mike Preston: The Ravens offense is finding its form. Now it’s time for the defense to tighten up.

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Like most of the Ravens staff, defensive coordinator Don Martindale probably spent Monday night celebrating a 47-42-win over the Cleveland Browns, one of the most exciting victories in the team’s 25-year history in Baltimore.

By Tuesday morning, he was probably mad at himself and any of his defensive players within earshot. The Ravens gave up 493 yards of total offense against the Browns and continued a downward spiral in recent weeks.

The lackluster play is disturbing, and some changes are needed if the Ravens are to advance deep into the postseason.

“You know, every game is a game-by-game basis,” outside linebacker Matthew Judon said. “If we shut a team out, you all aren’t going to say, ‘You’re the best defense.’ If we give up 42 points, we’re not the worst defense. It was just this game.”

The problem is that the Ravens defense isn’t getting better. In a 34-17 win against the Dallas Cowboys last week, the team allowed 111 rushing yards on 28 carries as halfback Ezekiel Elliott had 77 yards on 18 attempts. The Browns rushed for 138 yards on 28 attempts Monday night, and Cleveland doesn’t have a dynamic quarterback like Lamar Jackson carrying the ball.

The Browns just grind it out with running backs Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt. Successful playoff teams, especially those on the East Coast, need to be able to run and stop the run.

On offense, the Ravens appear to be gearing up. It’s the opposite on defense.

“They exploited some stuff,” Judon said. “We have to go to the film. And we have to correct that stuff. But everybody isn’t going to jump off the ship over here, at least we’re not. So, we’re going to go to work, like we always do. We’re going to correct it. We’re going to come back next week and we’re going to fight.”

Part of the problem has been the subpar play of the defensive line. Neither nose tackle Brandon Williams (ankle) nor defensive end Calais Campbell (calf) seem to have fully recovered from injuries, and Campbell also had a severe bout with COVID-19 from which he might still be experiencing lingering effects. If those two can’t keep opposing offensive linemen off rookie inside linebackers Patrick Queen and Malik Harrison, the Ravens are in trouble.

Both of those youngsters aren’t physical enough to fight off blockers and might be hitting the wall most rookies hit this time of year. Fatigue sets in because college seasons aren’t as long as those in the NFL.

Then there is the pass rush. The Ravens didn’t have any sacks against Cleveland and only hit quarterback Baker Mayfield five times. They only had one sack against Dallas and five pressures. Martindale has been trying several different stunts and an assortment of blitzes to get pressure, but the Ravens only have seven sacks in the past six games.

Maybe that’s why the Ravens were so soft in coverage in the second half Monday night. That didn’t make much sense because the Browns receivers, with the exception of Jarvis Landry, are just as average as the Ravens’ crew. Cleveland went to the short passing attack and scored touchdowns on four of its last five possessions with drives of 75, 70, 70 and 75 yards.

In some cases, the Ravens were in prevent mode, but what exactly did they prevent?

The Ravens did suffer some injuries in the secondary. Starting cornerback Marcus Peters played through a calf strain and fellow cornerback Jimmy Smith missed the second half because of a shoulder injury. At this point, the Ravens can’t count on Smith because he spends more time in the training room than on the field.

The Ravens also might have a safety issue. Both of their starters, DeShon Elliott and Chuck Clark, are great at going forward and making tackles, but don’t cover a lot of ground defending deep passes.

The Ravens have to address these concerns. In recent weeks, Jackson has gone back to displaying the form that made him the league Most Valuable Player in 2019 by making big plays with his legs instead of his arm.

Earlier in the season, the defense was playing well, and it appeared as if the group might peak by the end of the year. There is still time with three weak opponents coming up in the Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Cincinnati Bengals, but the real answer won’t come until the postseason.

That’s when the quality of the opponents will get better.

But will the Ravens?

 

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Carrying 3 defenses now! Mia vs NE, Sea vs WFT, and Buff vs Den.

was leaning Mia as Cam has looked awful but Sea looks appealing if Smith doesn't play but I feel Buff is a good D and is getting healthy 

really no clear winner

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7 hours ago, Hawk Fan said:

Looking ahead to week 16, since I'm set with the Rams this week vs NYJ.

 

Having trouble deciding about Rams (@SEA), Dolphins (@LV) or options like Bears (@Jax), or TB (@Det). Rams and Dolphins have been very solid as of late but look to have tougher matchups.

Same boat, carrying Mia/LAR the past few weeks but week 16 (hopefully  it matters) thinking about Hou vs Cinci or Chi vs Jax

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2 hours ago, bolldpt said:

Carrying 3 defenses now! Mia vs NE, Sea vs WFT, and Buff vs Den.

was leaning Mia as Cam has looked awful but Sea looks appealing if Smith doesn't play but I feel Buff is a good D and is getting healthy 

really no clear winner

If A. Smith is QB I rule out SEA D. He doesn't make too many silly mistakes and plays it conservative most of the time. If Haskins...different ball game.

I'm debating Miami or Buffalo. Leaning Miami. That defense has been a turnover machine. Flores knows NE and he'll do enough to stuff the run because he knows Cam can't throw the ball.

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26 minutes ago, Broncobiv said:

I dropped AZ in one league and SEA in another, and picked up CLE in both. Hard to argue with @NYG and @NYJ for the last 2 playoff rounds! 

Any worry about the Giants and Browns just running? Not many opportunity for sacks or picks? 

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