2021 Team Defense & Defense by Committee Thread

[GoBirds 10,376]

49 minutes ago, VikingFrog said:

I chose Pitt over them for this very reason.

I don’t think Pitt is a great choice either but Arizona defense seems like asking for trouble.

Seattle and Green Bay got snagged off waivers. 

All those options are gone in our league, Texans were dropped anyone like them or see anything deeper?

[zftcg 3,688]

11 hours ago, sped1103 said:

Starting CHI with confidence. Steelers showed Fitz will turn it over/take sacks under pressure.

What are you thinking for next week when they're on bye? SF/AZ have a "pick either side" matchup, as do Tenn/Buffalo.

I have the roster spot to pick someone up now, but I'm honestly not sure which is the best option. Leaning AZ because they're a halfway decent D facing a terrible QB. Just wish they were at home.

[zftcg 3,688]

In the league where I have Carolina, thinking they could be a set-it-and-forget-it D for the rest of the regular season once they come off their bye. Only scary matchups are Week 7 (@PHI) and 10 (@PIT). Unfortunately, their playoff schedule starts off fine (@CLE) before finishing vs. NO/ATL (though at least both are at home). Still, seems like they could be a good ride while it lasts.

[Peak 1,346]

Was thinking about switching CLE with the Chargers D off the WW, but saw that Garrett is going against Rookie tackle Kolton Miller (CLE @ OAK).  Seeing this and CLE's trend the last few weeks, I'm going to go with CLE.  I think they're being under-rated still and people are viewing last week as a 1 week wonder.  Over the season, CLE DEF has averaged 13ppg, with 11pts being the lowest.  They are averaging 2 turnovers/game and with the matchup above, I'd be shocked if Garret and Ogun aren't in the backfield all afternoon.  

Chargers are projected to have 12pts in my league.  CLE projected with 8pts.  CLE has been averaging more than their projection vs stronger offenses (NO/PIT), while Chargers have only been in double digit pts once in 3 weeks (avg about 4ppg).  I get that SF is a dumpster fire now, but aside from holding them to 0 pts and few yardage, will they be able to add to it with turnovers or sacks?

[Long Ball Larry 14,303]

15 hours ago, Futz said:

Man, I want to believe that with Baltimore but I just don't see it. Even worse, I'm having a real hard time seeing any great defenses or who the true marks are (bad teams) to play against. I've never gone this far into the season and STILL have been so uncertain. Oye vey.

I kept the Bears for this week vs. TB and dropped Balt for Ridley because I think that whether it is Fitz still or Winston getting re-acclimated, the turnovers can definitely be had.  We don't get any scoring points once the opponent is over 14 and yardage points are also hard to come by, so it's pretty much all turnovers, sacks and TDs.

I'm just not feeling it with Baltimore overall.  I know they are well regarded, but haven't been too good since the first week.  They do have CLE and TEN the next 2 weeks after this, so those are plus matchups.  I will be looking to get them back if they slide through.

13 hours ago, zftcg said:

Are Bears owners sticking or streaming this week vs TB? I also have Cinci but they're @ATL. Could pick up someone else, but I'm thinking Chicago could be OK. First of all, Fitz could implode any time. Second, even if he goes four-large again, it doesn't mean there won't be sacks and TOs.

 

[zftcg 3,688]

15 hours ago, Futz said:

I'm having a real hard time seeing any great defenses or who the true marks are (bad teams) to play against. I've never gone this far into the season and STILL have been so uncertain. Oye vey.

Best defenses scoring wise have been Chicago and LAR, which tracks with what we've seen on the field (though Rams CB injuries are worrisome). Jax hasn't put up big points so far, but they look good.

Beyond that, who's a reliable weekly starter? LAC/Minn have really disappointed so far, though they still have the talent, especially once LA gets Bosa back. NYJ have put up good numbers, but that's mostly because of Week 1 vs Detroit, which feels a little fluky. Carolina seems solid but unspectacular. Cleveland is the only one that seems positioned to make the leap, provided the offense doesn't hold them back.

No idea how this compares to similar points in previous years, but yeah, it does seem like there aren't a lot of reliable options.

[kyoun1e 898]

Anyone actually considering DROPPING the CHI D?

Would love to hang on to them all season and fill gaps with streamers, but I need to pick up a damn kicker and I literally have nobody else to drop.

Also, the upcoming schedule isn't that great:

* TB: Could get turnovers, but I think TB will put up points and yards. Streamers could be a better bet. Right now I'm starting SD D vs SF.

* Bye week

* @MIA: Not terrible, but not great. Miami playing well.

* NE: Think by this point, NE has their act together with Edelman back and Gordon making an impact.

Torn. CHI D has treated me well through 3 weeks.

[C-Bound 297]

Drafted Chargers and traded for Rams after week 1 and I didn't think I would ever pull them from my lineup.  But tonight scares me.  I think the Vikes can play spread O and work all the Rams backup corners.  I'm leaning towards Chargers again for this week vs. a rudderless 49ers squad.  Suppose its better to have 2 good options than none at all...

[need2know 6,405]

Sticking with Chicago.  They look like one of the few decent defenses in the league.  I will hold 2 def for one week next week to keep them

[DBDynasty 6]

I’m rostering both the Bears and the Chargers. Leaning Chargers this week and then sticking with them next week against the Raiders. Then it will be decision time in week 6.

[Faust 5,627]

With All-Pro corners sidelined, Rams backups ready for Vikings

[Faust 5,627]

Mike Zimmer: 'Never been this poor in pass coverage'

[Faust 5,627]

Chris Harris: Broncos' D to be in attack mode vs. Chiefs

[Team Smokin' 256]

On 9/26/2018 at 9:23 AM, Peak said:

Was thinking about switching CLE with the Chargers D off the WW, but saw that Garrett is going against Rookie tackle Kolton Miller (CLE @ OAK).  Seeing this and CLE's trend the last few weeks, I'm going to go with CLE.  I think they're being under-rated still and people are viewing last week as a 1 week wonder.  Over the season, CLE DEF has averaged 13ppg, with 11pts being the lowest.  They are averaging 2 turnovers/game and with the matchup above, I'd be shocked if Garret and Ogun aren't in the backfield all afternoon.  

Chargers are projected to have 12pts in my league.  CLE projected with 8pts.  CLE has been averaging more than their projection vs stronger offenses (NO/PIT), while Chargers have only been in double digit pts once in 3 weeks (avg about 4ppg).  I get that SF is a dumpster fire now, but aside from holding them to 0 pts and few yardage, will they be able to add to it with turnovers or sacks?

Have CLE slated in again... having a hard time wrapping around that it's CLE we are talking about lol and I keep looking at higher "ranked" D/ST's all day long. Hoping to stand pat on CLE, Another league picked up LAC off of waivers, then finally have JAX in another league.

But, it is CLE that is the wild card play again...

[OU#1 124]

Picked up CLE, had to drop Panthers on their bye.  I have a feeling this whole team rallies around Baker and their D was already impressing.  OAK isn’t scary even on the road.  I’m not biased at all on my Baker Mayfield (sarcasm).  High hopes for the Browns going forward!!

[Cobbler1 1,105]

I can’t imagine dropping the Bears even if it means holding 2 defenses in certain matchups. They’ve been so good. I’m not afraid of the Tampa matchup or on the road at Miami. You stream a defense for the bye and for the Pats game if you want and then after that you have Jets at home, Bills, and then Lions and Vikes at home. I want them in my lineup for that stretch for sure.

[fantasycurse42 8,317]

I've got the number 1 waiver claim, which is a position I like to hold until I know I'm getting my value for it. With that, the Bears were dropped, and as much as I like holding that spot for a RB when someone gets hurt, IDK if I can risk not putting in a claim for them as I'm streaming week by week right now.

[kyoun1e 898]

Keep waffling on CHI D vs. LAC but now it looks like Prince A. is out this week which helps out Fitzy and on the flip side, M. Breida is a game time decision while A. Morris is questionable.

Getting harder to sit LAC vs SF.

[JIslander 2,811]

58 minutes ago, fantasycurse42 said:

I've got the number 1 waiver claim, which is a position I like to hold until I know I'm getting my value for it. With that, the Bears were dropped, and as much as I like holding that spot for a RB when someone gets hurt, IDK if I can risk not putting in a claim for them as I'm streaming week by week right now.

If it were me, and I didnt have a glaring need or potential concerns elswhere, I'd probably nab them. They seem to be legit...getting an additional 6-7 points than other defenses weekly (at least in my league so far).

[Jamesinaz 47]

No way I drop CHI defense.  I think on tough matchups they will be "ok".  On good matchups they can be a weekly difference maker.  At some point I'll have to own 2 Ds (bye week for example) but I'm keeping Chi.

 

[jtp1982 361]

Arizona’s not a bad option to stream this week. High floor/low ceiling.  Also have SF away next week so worth seeing how it goes.

I think Chicago is a better option in most situations this week though.

 I’m not dripping Chicago for anything all season way they’re looking.  I joked at my draft after everyone had gotten DSTs and mine stunk that the best one all season is usually on waivers anyway.  I was right and it’s Chicago.

[IHEARTFF 1,201]

Feel good about Cle and GB

[flapgreen 6,060]

Got lucky with Green Bay. Benched last week and started this week. Had no other option. 

[C-Bound 297]

Well I guess the Chargers are just trash without Bosa.  To think I was patting myself on the back for benching the Rams...

[Faust 5,627]

Getting Defensive: Week 5

[Judge Smails 3,887]

Bad year overall for defenses. Most underperforming to expectations. 

[Walking Boot 8,296]

On 9/30/2018 at 1:09 PM, flapgreen said:

Got lucky with Green Bay. Benched last week and started this week. Had no other option. 

Yeah, I picked up GB two weeks ago just for the Buffalo game. But might ride them for two/three more until their bye. 

[Max Power 4,126]

Going 49ers vs the Cardinals this week.

[Fever in the Funkhouse 47]

3 hours ago, Max Power said:

Going 49ers vs the Cardinals this week.

Had this option, but went TN @ BUF 

[shadyridr 14,318]

On 9/25/2018 at 7:57 PM, GoBirds said:

Just looked at BAL schedule, brutal rest of the way with KC on the road week 1 playoffs.......anyone else dropping them this week? Any middling defenses that could be good pickups like GB, KC?

Yep I dropped them for GB last week! Was gonna pick them back up this week and while they have a solid matchup vs CLE, after this they don't have a single gimme. They haven't even been a good fantasy defense. I don't think I'll bother.

[Keith1 111]

17 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

Yep I dropped them for GB last week! Was gonna pick them back up this week and while they have a solid matchup vs CLE, after this they don't have a single gimme. They haven't even been a good fantasy defense. I don't think I'll bother.

Two weeks in a row they had defensive touchdowns called back on penalties. 

[flapgreen 6,060]

5 hours ago, Walking Boot said:

Yeah, I picked up GB two weeks ago just for the Buffalo game. But might ride them for two/three more until their bye. 

I have to choose between Green Bay, Carolina, and Denver this week.  Likely going Denver. 

Edited October 2, 2018 by flapgreen

[GoBirds 10,376]

46 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

Yep I dropped them for GB last week! Was gonna pick them back up this week and while they have a solid matchup vs CLE, after this they don't have a single gimme. They haven't even been a good fantasy defense. I don't think I'll bother.

I got lucky w NE this week. Debating holding or grabbing Carolina off bye. 

[shadyridr 14,318]

Ten vs Buf has to be a top play this week

[Peak 1,346]

Going with CAR this week.  Last couple of weeks have felt like a crapshoot.  I'm done over-analyzing this stuff.  Finding a matchup I like and plugging them into the lineup.

[kyoun1e 898]

I'm always surprised to see that Tremblay / Dodds have a ton of waiver wire D's ranked high on this list. Lots to choose from this week:

1. TN @BUF -- Gotta be the number 1 option (although I could totally see a TN let down and be less than impressed with results).

2. CAR vs NYG -- Off a bye, Eli always good for a couple turnovers. Unimpressive vs NO shaky D. Does have weapons though.

3. CINC vs MIA -- Cinci getting Burfdick back. That's gonna help. Miami as usual a bunch of imposters and now going on the road.

4. NYJ vs DEN -- Thoroughly unimpressed with the DEN offense. They wont be able to run against Jets front like that and Keenum looks beyond mediocre.

5. SF vs AZ -- Am I seeing this right? Tremblay has them as #1 option this week. AZ has been terrible, but I think Rosen makes them competent. 

6. BUF vs TN -- For the desperate. Wouldn't surprise me to see BUF aggressive D cause some problems. This game could be a 13-10 mess.

Curious if anyone would rank these D's differently? 

I'm currently stuck with LAC. Have to drop them for one of the above.

[zftcg 3,688]

15 minutes ago, kyoun1e said:

I'm always surprised to see that Tremblay / Dodds have a ton of waiver wire D's ranked high on this list. Lots to choose from this week:

1. TN @BUF -- Gotta be the number 1 option (although I could totally see a TN let down and be less than impressed with results).

2. CAR vs NYG -- Off a bye, Eli always good for a couple turnovers. Unimpressive vs NO shaky D. Does have weapons though.

3. CINC vs MIA -- Cinci getting Burfdick back. That's gonna help. Miami as usual a bunch of imposters and now going on the road.

4. NYJ vs DEN -- Thoroughly unimpressed with the DEN offense. They wont be able to run against Jets front like that and Keenum looks beyond mediocre.

5. SF vs AZ -- Am I seeing this right? Tremblay has them as #1 option this week. AZ has been terrible, but I think Rosen makes them competent. 

6. BUF vs TN -- For the desperate. Wouldn't surprise me to see BUF aggressive D cause some problems. This game could be a 13-10 mess.

Curious if anyone would rank these D's differently? 

I'm currently stuck with LAC. Have to drop them for one of the above.

If you just need someone for this week, Tenn. But if you want to ride a D for longer, then Carolina. They've been solid all year (except when they played Atlanta) and have a pretty good schedule the rest of the way.

[TartanLion 591]

I like Carolina this week

[bluestarz 0]

Defenses suck so far this year. I had Houston. Did nothing for 3 weeks. Dropped them For Seattle because they played

Arizona. That didn't work. Can't trust the 49'ers. Not sure if I should go back to Houston or try another team.

I've narrowed it down to  @Cin vs Mia, @NyJ vs Den, @Cle vs Bal, or Den @NyJ

Cincy has been torched the last two weeks.

Cleveland has been getting sacks and turnovers in each game but got smoked in Oakland.

Leaning with the Jets. Denver coming across the country on a short week.

Denver playing against the Jets terrible offense.     <<<<Tried this with Seattle vs terrible Arizona and it got me a whopping 3 points.

 

I feel like I'm playing the lottery each week. No clue what defense is going to show up.

Edited October 2, 2018 by bluestarz

[kyoun1e 898]

7 hours ago, zftcg said:

If you just need someone for this week, Tenn. But if you want to ride a D for longer, then Carolina. They've been solid all year (except when they played Atlanta) and have a pretty good schedule the rest of the way.

Have CHI on bye so I need a one week rental.

TN a no brainer but I bet I don't get them being 11th in line. Hoping for CAR or CINCI. 

[Faust 5,627]

Let’s Stream Defenses: Week 5 (Fantasy Football)

[elshagon 112]

Anyone feel Arizona is the better play than going with San Francisco?

[flapgreen 6,060]

10 hours ago, zftcg said:

If you just need someone for this week, Tenn. But if you want to ride a D for longer, then Carolina. They've been solid all year (except when they played Atlanta) and have a pretty good schedule the rest of the way.

I think I'm gonna ride Carolina and Green Bay the rest of the way. 

[GoBirds 10,376]

12 hours ago, zftcg said:

If you just need someone for this week, Tenn. But if you want to ride a D for longer, then Carolina. They've been solid all year (except when they played Atlanta) and have a pretty good schedule the rest of the way.

Where would you put Baltimore and Texans in this list?

Edited October 3, 2018 by GoBirds

[jtp1982 361]

5 hours ago, elshagon said:

Anyone feel Arizona is the better play than going with San Francisco?

I am rolling with Arizona on the Bears bye week.  This is gonna be a low scoring defensive battle and they’ve just got the better talent.

Ill reconsider if their starting D tackles are out this since SF will try to establisj the running game.

Edited October 3, 2018 by jtp1982
Autocorrect made defensive tackles into President Trump. Seriously

[need2know 6,405]

Picked up New England for this week only vs colts.  

Have chi.

Tried to get TN but missed out. 

[zftcg 3,688]

11 hours ago, GoBirds said:

Where would you put Baltimore and Texans in this list?

I view Baltimore as similar to Carolina: Good, solid D that I will feel comfortable rolling out in most match-ups.

Not sure what to make of the Texans. They have talent, but haven't really seemed to put it together yet this year. My main worry is that they're not a very good team and will likely be trailing in a lot of games. One encouraging sign: they have four sacks in two straight games as Watt appears to be rounding into form.

[Polish Hammer 619]

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[killface 2,514]

I picked up SF this week after rolling with the pack last week

[SaintsInDome2006 47,490]

14 hours ago, GoBirds said:

Where would you put Baltimore and Texans in this list?

I’ll just point out that Hou gets the Bills next week so it’s a 2-fer.