msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 What is Houston doing? I feel like Randle would have in decently on that team. Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 35,058 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 The problem with all of this analysis, one way or the other, is that last year’s Ingram, Kuzma, and Ball will not be next year’s Ingram, Kuzma and Ball. One of these guys may emerge into a star player. Or more than one. Or none. But we just don’t know. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, modogg said: These are so insane. Why the hell would Phoenix ever do that deal? Because the Lakers asked nicely. Link to post Share on other sites
caustic 4,122 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 S. Curry headed to the Blazers, per Woj Link to post Share on other sites
tjnc09 2,712 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 third best team in the West is a second round loss. Congrats! Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 31,611 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Daywalker said: Rondo signing got to lead one to believe Ball is either the "big" piece in the Kawhi trade or for another player. Lakers get: Kawhi Spurs get : J. Jackson and Kuzma Phoenix: Ball Why...would Phoenix do that? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, modogg said: These are so insane. Why the hell would Phoenix ever do that deal? Why would they want a PG? Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 35,058 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Capella said: Why...would Phoenix do that? Because they weren’t part of the Pau Gasol for Kwame trade a few years back, and they’re determined not to let it happen again? Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 31,611 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, timschochet said: The problem with all of this analysis, one way or the other, is that last year’s Ingram, Kuzma, and Ball will not be next year’s Ingram, Kuzma and Ball. One of these guys may emerge into a star player. Or more than one. Or none. But we just don’t know. “Sir, this is a Wendy’s” 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 14,304 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said: How is Favors worth twice as much as Randle? Favors 2nd year is a team option, so the total value isn't quite that far apart. Link to post Share on other sites
tjnc09 2,712 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Spurs: Deng Lakers: Kawhi /Lakers fans Who says no? 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: Great retort, but sorry you have homer glasses on right now. GSW Houston Boston Philly Twolves Jazz Pelicans Yeah I'm sure a Lebron-led team would be down here with a handful of other teams. You want to add Toronto to that list? Maybe Lebron will crack the top 10. Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Did I miss the season where Jackson became much more valuable then Ball? Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, timschochet said: The problem with all of this analysis, one way or the other, is that last year’s Ingram, Kuzma, and Ball will not be next year’s Ingram, Kuzma and Ball. One of these guys may emerge into a star player. Or more than one. Or none. But we just don’t know. With what the Lakers are doing it might be none. Rondo is taking valuable minutes from Ball. Ingram or Kuzma are loading minutes to LeBron and Stephenson. Obviously you are fine with LeBron, but Stephenson is meh. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Daywalker said: GSW Houston Boston Philly Twolves Jazz Pelicans Yeah I'm sure a Lebron-led team would be down here with a handful of other teams. You want to add Toronto to that list? Maybe Lebron will crack the top 10. It is the West, maybe you forgot that. In the East maybe, and I will never say the Raptors have a chance against LeBron. I don't care if LeBron is 80. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Daywalker said: Did I miss the season where Jackson became much more valuable then Ball? I think so, it was last season and their only season. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
drummer 829 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Capella said: This thread isn’t about basketball. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Daywalker said: Did I miss the season where Jackson became much more valuable then Ball? Redo last years draft right now. Tatum and Mitchell go 1 and 2 I don't care who goes first. Jackson is in the discussion at 3, Ball isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,965 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: With what the Lakers are doing it might be none. Rondo is taking valuable minutes from Ball. Ingram or Kuzma are loading minutes to LeBron and Stephenson. Obviously you are fine with LeBron, but Stephenson is meh. this is a good point. i'm feeling a little better as a Sixers fan. even with no GM they wouldn't have let their roster degrade this fast Link to post Share on other sites
Anarchy99 6,360 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: What is Houston doing? I feel like Randle would have in decently on that team. The Rockets are $16 million over the cap. I believe that only allows them to sign guys using some sort of exception or at the league minimum. Or they could sign their own free agents. Can’t sign anyone major unless they get that player to play at a deep discount. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: Redo last years draft right now. Tatum and Mitchell go 1 and 2 I don't care who goes first. Jackson is in the discussion at 3, Ball isn't. Yeah, I don't agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 12,003 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, msudaisy26 said: With what the Lakers are doing it might be none. Rondo is taking valuable minutes from Ball. Ingram or Kuzma are loading minutes to LeBron and Stephenson. Obviously you are fine with LeBron, but Stephenson is meh. Ot maybe the Lakers aren't quite done tinkering with their roster yet and it's early to be making definitive statements about how minutes will be distributed. Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 31,611 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Daywalker said: Yeah, I don't agree with this. You think Ball would go in the top-3? Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, Gr00vus said: Ot maybe the Lakers aren't quite done tinkering with their roster yet and it's early to be making definitive statements about how minutes will be distributed. I agree, but that wasn't the discussion we were having. He said this roster right now is the 4th best in the NBA. Behind only the Warrior, Rockets and Celtics. Sorry that isn't true. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, Capella said: You think Ball would go in the top-3? He has those purple and gold glasses on. Link to post Share on other sites
EYLive 5,471 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 59 minutes ago, DJackson10 said: Free agent Julius Randle has agreed to a two-year, $18M deal with New Orleans, league sources tell ESPN. Player option second year. That's dirt cheap. In my mind, Kuzma and Randal were the 2 that I'd really want to keep. Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Ball went 10/7/7 as a 19-20 year old. Tatum and Mitchell are the only slam dunks ahead of him. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Daywalker said: Ball went 10/7/7 as a 19-20 year old. Tatum and Mitchell are the only slam dunks ahead of him. On a horrible team, and he can't shoot and his father is a PITA. Link to post Share on other sites
Workhorse 2,194 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Boogie to the Warriors. Good grief. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
whoknew 9,005 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Holy moly - DeMarcus Cousins has agreed to a deal with Golden State, league source tells ESPN. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
The General 25,050 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Yeah. That’s dumb. NBA is a joke. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
modogg 4,965 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gr00vus said: Lakernation board posters are buzzing about a sign and trade deal involving Cousins and Ball (and Deng and a 1st round pick), pending physicals. Don't know how I'd feel about that if it goes down. they have been trying to trade that Deng contract forever, i can't imagine they can unload it and get any value. Link to post Share on other sites
Capella 31,611 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 They should legit go 82-0 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Gr00vus 12,003 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, modogg said: they have been trying to trade that Deng contract forever, i can't imagine they can unload it and get any value. Well they sure were wrong about that particular scenario anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The General 25,050 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 GS probably needs to get Kawhi too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DJackson10 3,204 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Boogie to the Warriors according to WOj Link to post Share on other sites
The General 25,050 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Too late for Lebron to sign with the Warriors? They could use some bench depth. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
knowledge dropper 6,754 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, whoknew said: Holy moly - DeMarcus Cousins has agreed to a deal with Golden State, league source tells ESPN. Is this the end of the thread? May as well focus on 19/20 season. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Yeah that's a huge bummer for the league. Not good for ratings in general. Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos Commish 3,503 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, The General said: Too late for Lebron to sign with the Warriors? Yes but he might have time to pull a DeAndre Jordan and change his mind. Link to post Share on other sites
The General 25,050 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Warriors have to play in socks next year. Or the other team gets those 5 point circles from the MTV game. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, Daywalker said: Yeah that's a huge bummer for the league. Not good for ratings in general. Come on, they said the same thing about Durant to the Warriors and the ratings have never been higher. Link to post Share on other sites
Daywalker 3,034 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Might as well wait for Kawhi now. L. Ball, Deng and a #1 for Kawhi. Final offer. Link to post Share on other sites
Juxtatarot 11,575 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I thought it was going to be a lost year for Boogie because of his injury. No idea how effective he will be. Not that it matters much anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Daywalker said: Might as well wait for Kawhi now. L. Ball, Deng and a #1 for Kawhi. Final offer. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart Ullman 840 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 NBA needs to step in. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos Commish 3,503 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Thank god I got some money on GS at +150. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos Commish 3,503 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, Stuart Ullman said: NBA needs to step in. No. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bobcat10 1,991 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, tommyGunZ said: Yeah, this is what I fear. That said, LeBron is in Europe, so I'm not sure he's pulling the strings. This reeks of Magic. And reeks is a kid word. Rondo and KCP making $21M this year? Why not give that $20M to Boogie????? I think we know why 1 Link to post Share on other sites
msudaisy26 6,038 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Feels like Boogie is taking it easy next year to get back into form and win a title. Then try to cash in next year. Pretty smart for a guy that usually does stupid stuff. Achilles can be rough, especially on a big man. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
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