5 Sixers in top 62. Good to see some people (looking at you Golliver) coming around.SI Top 100 Some interesting choices, discuss
i don't know. Embiid or Simmons >>>>>>> Derozan by almost every measure. Guess they may as well aim for the moon, but would the package Toronto sent be better than a mix of Fultz, Saric and Covington? i don't know, but it is all water under the bridge. If the case was Embiid/SImmons was the starting point i wish someone would have leaked it better to the media so we could have saved a few weeks of silliness, i can't see any reason why the Sixers would trade one of those young guys for an injured Kawhi in a contract year.They wanted a star back (and Fultz doesn't count).
Why? That is exactly where he should be after his rookie year...after this year I expect him to be about 15-20 slots above that but right now he is where he should be...this thread will bump 5 pages once the Celtics' fans check out that top 100. I think the whole fanbase will blow a gasket seeing Tatum at 39....
Until he got hurt he was top 5 in the MVP race last year and the T-Wolves were hoovering around the 3 or 4 seed.Jimmy Butler at 10?
I think Nate Duncan and the Clippers guy he had on predicted they be trying to get a point guard from the ClippersHe's no Deng, but Devin Booker is out ~6 weeks after surgery on his shooting hand. The Suns were already disastrously thin at PG (and he arguably isn't one), but now they'll be starting ?.
Ainge is going to get a haul when they come calling for Rozier.
hmm, well rookie of the year was at 26. I wouldn't mind seeing Ben top 10-6 next year myself.Why? That is exactly where he should be after his rookie year...after this year I expect him to be about 15-20 slots above that but right now he is where he should be...
Too high: Chris Paul (y'aint there @ the end, y'aint there), Butler (this might be right if wiggy werent cloggin #### up) PG-lowerthan13, Horford, Aldridge, Klaywayway2hi, Beal, SAdams, GHarris,RoCoHoHoHo48, EGordon, Favors, Ingles, D12, Wiggy (200?), Ibaka, Iggy, KAnderson, Bazemore, Carroll,SI Top 100 Some interesting choices, discuss
Covington at 48 just discredits the entire list.... especially when you look at players he is ahead of. Barely can dribble or make a lay up. Defense is great , until playoffs or guarding someone who is actually a scorer.Too high: Chris Paul (y'aint there @ the end, y'aint there), Butler (this might be right if wiggy werent cloggin #### up) PG-lowerthan13, Horford, Aldridge, Klaywayway2hi, Beal, SAdams, GHarris,RoCoHoHoHo48, EGordon, Favors, Ingles, D12, Wiggy (200?), Ibaka, Iggy, KAnderson, Bazemore, Carroll,
Too low: Jokic (altho, unfortunately, a spot ahead of KAT is right), Simmons, DMitchell (maybe), Drummond, Booker, JMurray, THarris, AGordon, JRandle, Batum, Ingram, Markaanen, Vukevic, Lonzo
Missing: Kris Dunn, John Collins, DFox, Jarrett Allen, DSmith and up to a half-dozen rookies
Dunn? Who would you drop out to put Dunn in there?Too high: Chris Paul (y'aint there @ the end, y'aint there), Butler (this might be right if wiggy werent cloggin #### up) PG-lowerthan13, Horford, Aldridge, Klaywayway2hi, Beal, SAdams, GHarris,RoCoHoHoHo48, EGordon, Favors, Ingles, D12, Wiggy (200?), Ibaka, Iggy, KAnderson, Bazemore, Carroll,
Too low: Jokic (altho, unfortunately, a spot ahead of KAT is right), Simmons, DMitchell (maybe), Drummond, Booker, JMurray, THarris, AGordon, JRandle, Batum, Ingram, Markaanen, Vukevic, Lonzo
Missing: Kris Dunn, John Collins, DFox, Jarrett Allen, DSmith and up to a half-dozen rookies
the bottom 50Dunn? Who would you drop out to put Dunn in there?
If there’s a case to be made for any Kings, it’s that Hield or Bogdanovic should bump out some of the other guys in the bottom 15 or so. Fox isn’t in the discussion yet.Missing: DFox,
I always avoid fantasy-drafting rookie TEs, WRs & PGs, except in dynasty. Tight ends because they're nothing but fat, slow WRs until they learn to play in-line, WRs because they have as much to learn as QBs but have do so while constantly out-of-breath and PGs because point guards are, in a way unlike any position in team sports, both born & made. I watched Fox as much as i could (i'm usually worn out on watching b-ball by the 2nd game of doubleheaders, so i'm better on east than west) last season. He's ready to take the next step.If there’s a case to be made for any Kings, it’s that Hield or Bogdanovic should bump out some of the other guys in the bottom 15 or so. Fox isn’t in the discussion yet.
And Ben Simmons.[Robinson] Spoke to a source today who confirmed Kevin Durant will be a LA Laker next year. "Just like LeBron planned his move LA a year or more earlier, #KD is doing the same right now. They want to form the best duo in the NBA and set up KD to be the face of the Lakers post-LeBron." (twitter.com)
i'm late on this, aren't i?
Honestly if I was giving up Kwahi and the Sixers were calling I'd laugh off anyone trying to pass me Fultz. They wanted a legit Star so it'd have to be one of those two. If I'm getting rid of one of the best if not the best two way player in the league not named LeBron I'd want Embiid plus picks. But unless Embiid or Simmons was in there the deal wasn't going through5 Sixers in top 62. Good to see some people (looking at you Golliver) coming around.
And they keep insisting that the Spurs deal needed to be done with Embiid or Simmons: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2795767-spurs-reportedly-targeted-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-before-kawhi-leonard-trade
i can't figure out if Buford was playing hard ball, or what he was thinking. I can't imagine Sixers giving up either of those guys, and i think they still could have sent a better package than Torotonto did. But i'd love to know how true this all is because i can't figure out why Spurs would insist on this
Ben's probably joining Showtime 2.0 once his contract with the Sixers is up. I guess LeBron started recruiting early. It'd make sense since LA is closer to Australia then Philly if that were part of his decision but we are still a bit a way from all that talkAll of these social media posts with Lebron and Ben Simmons seems like a bad omen.
Seems more like a Company Yesman move. This to me signifies the canidates they talked too they told them they wouldn't have the authority they thought they would have. Harris and Company are more concerned about making a profit then actually winning. Harris is the same guy who's been running the NJ Devils too. I like Brand the Person and player but he barely has a full year of GM experience. I hope it works out for him.Elton Brand? Wow.
I remember reports of Butler being annoyed that Towns didn’t take practices etc. seriously enough. Don’t recall much more than that.I've been hearing radio folks talking about Towns and Butler hating each other. Is that a thing?
Certainly can't accuse him of jumping on a bandwagon.Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
Minnesota's Jimmy Butler has three preferred destinations for a trade, league sources tell ESPN: The Brooklyn Nets, Los Angeles Clippers and New York Knicks. Those three teams have max cap space to sign Butler as a free agent in July.
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Gee sounds like Butler has issues with teammates routinely. First Chicago and now Minny.I've been hearing radio folks talking about Towns and Butler hating each other. Is that a thing?
A few yrs ago I wouldn't agree with you but I do now. Very good two way player at times but doesn't deserve a max deal.Butler is overrated anyway.
Choker. Plays hero ball in crunch time. Bad teammate. Lockroom cancer. No jumpshot. About to turn 30 and lose his athleticism. Good riddance.A few yrs ago I wouldn't agree with you but I do now. Very good two way player at times but doesn't deserve a max deal.
Good thing the Knicks only player they couldn't just dump if he doesn't get along with Butler won't be playing in 2018/2019.Gee sounds like Butler has issues with teammates routinely. First Chicago and now Minny.
Any of our regulars subscribed to The Athletic? - looks like that's gonna be the source from now on. Or is the Twitterverse so fast a relay it don't matter?
Still on the books for 18 and 19 mil the next two years could help facilitate Butler dealHilarious.
Would be tough if it is Knicks to have 3 Max Deals.... Zinger will want a huge pay day after his Rookie deal and they still have some bad contracts on the books. If they could convince Zinger to wait to re-up till 2020 and dump some salary in the mean time.I suspect the rumors are true. Where Jimmy Butler goes, Kyrie will go.