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******Official SCOTUS Thread****** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter squistion
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On financial issues, some will no-doubt start leaning more conservatively as they age. But not on the social issues. There aren't a lot of young hateful racists.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
God bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night with the light from above
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night with the light from above
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home
The Football Freak
Footballguy
I understand the difference, I’m just trying to look for hope. Is it reasonable to hope there is some obscure legislative trick to be used? Probably not, but that’s what I’m left with.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Isn't there candidates farther to the right than Gorsuch? I think Gorsuch has voted with the liberals on one case.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Every GOP senator voted for Gorsuch. I feel like voting against any Trump nomination kills any Republican's career if they force a push of a vote to the next session and risk a Democratic Senate. I think Trump could nominate his own personal Harriet Miers (Hope Hicks?) and probably get a confirmation. (ETA: I'll draw the line at Javanka though.)
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Thunderlips
Footballguy
This is why you vote.....and once all the dust of the primaries have settled....you vote pragmatically, with a "realist" POV of view in your heart and head....and the absence of hurt in your butt.
Perot.....Nader.....Harambee/Stein/Johnson..... People really need to learn the lesson of "the lesser of two evils".
Perot.....Nader.....Harambee/Stein/Johnson..... People really need to learn the lesson of "the lesser of two evils".
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
The public made their voice known 20 months ago. Supreme Court seats were part of the deal.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Thunderlips
Footballguy
The Shark Move if for Trump to nominate himself.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Obviously my take on this is very different from most of the people posting in this thread, but I can't help but think about how strange this is. If Hillary Clinton simply remembers that the state of Wisconsin exists, the court would have a liberal 6-3 split and you wouldn't have to stay up at night worrying about RGB or Breyer. Heck, Ginsburg might retire in that scenario and you would lock up a 6-3 court for the foreseeable future.
Instead, it's 5-4 conservative with the strong potential to become even more conservative going forward. What a strange timeline.
Instead, it's 5-4 conservative with the strong potential to become even more conservative going forward. What a strange timeline.
Dickies
Footballguy
"We must let the people decide the direction of the court"
Last I checked more people voted for Hillary.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
No, just the seat that went to Gorsuch. Not all future SCOTUS seats while Trump is in office
Dickies
Footballguy
The public voted for Hillary, please go back to your "overwhelming electoral college victory" shtick.
The Football Freak
Footballguy
Intellectually, I know this. I can still hope for obscure rules that they were too timid to use before, for whatever reason. As I said, a vote in November doesn’t help with this, and no moderate Rs are going to break ranks. I’m not the type to just throw my hands up. I will be looking for anything I can do to help, but with this government, who will listen?
fightingillini
Footballguy
If Clinton would have won, GOP would have scrambled to get Garland confirmed, because Hillary may have nominated someone farther to the left.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
Looking for small differences between the right-leaning justices is the wrong approach from my vantage point. Even If Trump nominated a Kennedy clone that’s 50 years old that’s still a huge setback.
boots11234
Footballguy
MAGA!!! Another Trump appointment!!!! Who once said, "Elections have consequences."?
Or if Comey either keeps quiet about reopening the investigation into Hillary's emails or decides to also reveal that Trump was also under investigation. Or if Russia wasn't so determined to get Trump into office and he wasn't so willing to accept their help. Or if every poll hadn't said that Hillary had it in the bag, keeping a lot of voters home figuring she didn't really need the votes....
Tons of reasons that we are where we are. All we can do is hope something happens soon that ends the Trump nightmare.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
And this is the problem with the BS that the GOP pulled with the seat while Obama was President. Legitimizing this argument is dangerous and unconstitutional.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
HellToupee
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/TheSarcasmShow/status/1012050999131934720
Dear @JeffFlake since McCain is absent you could single handedly resist Trump by voting no on any supreme court nominee until after the election. It's already precedent with what McConnell did. Please consider this.
Dear @JeffFlake since McCain is absent you could single handedly resist Trump by voting no on any supreme court nominee until after the election. It's already precedent with what McConnell did. Please consider this.
Exactly. Everyone cheered when McConnell decided he was going to make up his own rules. Did anyone seriously think that would be forgotten and never paid for?
squistion
Footballguy
Both the Trump and Hillary campaigns agreed that Comey reopening the investigation into Hillary's emails was the decider in the election.
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Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
What a great day to be an American!
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
The legal citizen vote and electoral college gave President Trump a mandate to put anyone he recommended on the Supreme Court.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Sweet J
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
I have a feeling we're going to find out he's ill. Otherwise, he would have waited until November.
squistion
Footballguy
No, I don't think so. SCOTUS retirements are quite often announced at the end of a term.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Or that. It's kind of amazing to think that one decision made by one person is going to result in flipping the Supreme Court for at least the next decade and possibly much longer.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
If this country is such a horrible place....I can't for the life of me understand why so many minorities are willing to risk life and limb and break our laws to get here?
Thunderlips
Footballguy
I think unless he's going to die within the next week.....if he had an interest in waiting, he would have waited.
Kennedy has just amped up the Fall election.
Koya
Footballguy
I agree.
At the same time, 20 years of the Dem bending over and taking it while the other side engaged in an absolutist approach to end justifies the means (gerrymandering, denying right to vote, doing it all along clear racial and then party lines) makes me think #### it - when will they ####### punch back?
It's a tough place to be.
Sweet J
Footballguy
All my life I've been a moderate. But I agree -- I want to see fighting dirty on the same horrible Grover Nordquest / Mitch McConnell level for the next 20 years. Anything to stop them.I agree.
At the same time, 20 years of the Dem bending over and taking it while the other side engaged in an absolutist approach to end justifies the means (gerrymandering, denying right to vote, doing it all along clear racial and then party lines) makes me think #### it - when will they ####### punch back?
It's a tough place to be.
Koya
Footballguy
This is a lie. It's a racist lie at that.
Lies like this are why when you throw out a couple very good, poignant posts, they get lost in the sea of this abject bull####. Stop spreading a lie. You guys have your court, have the three branches - and still not enough to give you the courage to only tell the damn truth?
Worse yet considering the clearly racist/party driven tactics the Reps have used to disenfranchise legitimate voters - oh, all the while many of whom were involved in "something" to help tip the scales of the last election to begin with.
Anyway, back to the subject, but this is a lie, and need be shown as such.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I don't necessarily think so. Kennedy was appointed by a Republican President, and votes with conservatives justices pretty regularly (just not as often as some others), such as in Heller and the Muslim ban case the other day.
This isn't like a Thurgood Marshall thing, where he was forced to retire due to ill health during HW Bush's administration.
Koya
Footballguy
Fight like all #### - then nominate Mueller.
(which for someone like me that's to the right of the Dems, might be a great nominee. For liberals and more party strongholds, it would be a nice piece of irony).
Weebs210
Footballguy
Not gonna happen. Sorry.
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 7m7 minutes ago
**** Durbin:
"With so much at stake for the people of our country, the U.S. Senate must be consistent and consider the President’s nominee once the new Congress is seated in January."
