Unfortunately he also nominated the racist Sotomayor.
Hopefully we get someone more centrist as RBG was at the beginning of her term.
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Hopefully we get someone more centrist as RBG was at the beginning of her term.
squistion
Footballguy
Sotomayor was not racist. Her comments were taken out of context and mischaracterized (which was well documented in threads at that time if you wish to research that).
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How was this taken out of context?
Court Topples Sotomayor Ruling In Firefighter Case The Supreme Court has ruled that white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., were unfairly denied promotions because of their race, reversing a decision that high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor endorsed as an appeals court judge.
squistion
Footballguy
The big stink calling her racist was her comments at some seminar about a "proud Latina" not the above you quoted.
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Widbil83
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
My belief is that the biggest WIN of a Trump re-election is a SCOTUS nomination.
They have it today. They’re stupid and insane to make it a “vote” Trump card.
The only reason many will consider voting for him is to appoint THIS SCOTUS seat. Not doing so now would be an abject failure.
People will turn on him if he doesn’t make the appointment when he gas e bird in hand.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
I don't care about the comment....I care about an actual ruling she made as a judge.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I honestly don't know. I'm deeply biased on this so I don't take my own views too seriously.
My Good-Government Fantasy Land: Trump rams trough a conservative nominee. Trump loses to Biden. SCOTUS eventually overturns Roe.
My Hellscape: This seat stays open for a bit and Trump uses it as a campaign issue. Trump wins. Four more years of this. JFC.
If this seat hangs open and Biden fills it, that's probably a win too, but that's not how this is supposed to work,
squistion
Footballguy
I don't even remember anyone talking about that case. I would want to see the exact details and news about that case before I would agree that would prove she is a racist.
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Mile High
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The rewards for not voting in 2016 is going to bit the progressive movement for years.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
@KiddLattimer - Mile High just articulated the point I was trying to make previously. If someone in your position were to have not voted Hillary for the same reasons you say you don’t want to vote for Biden then they may inadvertently have given Trump the opportunity to replace RBG with someone much farther right. Your #1 goal gets subverted by your own vote.
This is the same mistake parties and especially leftist always make. They win one election and they believe the other side is dead and completely overplay their hand. And two years later there is a massive shift the other direction.
KiddLattimer
Footballguy
It's a fair point... as I said in the other thread I would have been far more torn if I lived in a swing state.
I do think far too much blame falls on the progressive non-voters and third party voters and not enough blame on HRC's campaign making poor decisions on which states were sewn up.
I definitely get what you're saying though.
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Rich Conway
Footballguy
Just a housekeeping request, not directed at either political "side"...
Can we keep this thread about SCOTUS cases, arguments, and decisions, and use the nomination thread(s) to talk about nominations, candidates, confirmation votes, etc.?
Can we keep this thread about SCOTUS cases, arguments, and decisions, and use the nomination thread(s) to talk about nominations, candidates, confirmation votes, etc.?
Vladimir Putin would be solidly in favor of expanding the Court under Biden. That would go a long way toward delegitimizing the judiciary and discrediting constitutional democracy.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
“I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."
squistion
Footballguy
I have the feeling this will another statement of Graham's along the lines of "that was then and this is now".
jm192
Footballguy
He’ll explain it away.
Some People will act shocked and appalled. And then everyone will say how the GOP all sold their souls. Then we’ll move on.
squistion
Footballguy
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 54m
@GOP We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!
@GOP We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Technically, this isn't true. Justices can retire at any time and certainly have been known to do so at opportune times in terms of strategic replacement.
Somebody in another thread was questioning whether this quote is authentic. I understand that it's relayed via a relative, but if it's supposed to be word for word, I share a bit of skepticism. "Installed" is a slightly odd choice there.squistion said:
jm192
Footballguy
You’re correct and I thought that after I made the post. I fully believe her hope was to resign after Biden won in November.
I guess my bigger point is that you don’t have control or say over the spot after death.
squistion
Footballguy
She was referring to after Inaugeration day.
I can't prove it but I am certain the quote is authentic. She probably knew she was dying and the statement is one I would have expected from her.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
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Footballguy
"new president" is a pretty odd choice too. Did she seriously want the government to wait 4 more years if Trump wins?
squistion
Footballguy
No, of course not. "New" being newly elected or elected for the next term. I think people are getting too hung over semantics here...
GoBirds
Footballguy
Of course you are.
This is how it normally works right, she makes the rules once she passes away? Just how it was for everyone before her? Wow, never surprised anymore.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
No, this statement was consistent for the views she articulated during her lifetime.Of course you are.
This is how it normally works right, she makes the rules once she passes away? Just how it was for everyone before her? Wow, never surprised anymore.
Sand
Footballguy
We all know as one of the premier jurists in the country that she would have been precise with her words. If this is what she said this is what she meant.
squistion
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
In that case if we honor it and Trump wins we wait until 2025 to fill her spot. That statement, if she said it, was clear.I think she was being precise.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
It doesn't matter whether the Ginsburg quote is legit or not, and it doesn't matter what she meant. It's not up to her.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1307416737537822721
BREAKING.
Susan Collins: "In fairness to the American people, who will either be re-electing the President or selecting a new one, the decision on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court should be made by the President who is elected on November 3rd."
BREAKING.
Susan Collins: "In fairness to the American people, who will either be re-electing the President or selecting a new one, the decision on a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court should be made by the President who is elected on November 3rd."
Sand
Footballguy
All that pearl clutching for nothing. Though, I guess the fear does fill election coffers.
squistion
Footballguy
The Hill @thehill 2h
Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are calling on GOP chair Lindsey Graham not to bring a vote on a Supreme Court nominee until next year: "There cannot be one set of rules for a Republican President and one set for a Democratic President"
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/517233-judiciary-dems-urge-graham-to-delay-supreme-court-nominee-until-next-year
Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are calling on GOP chair Lindsey Graham not to bring a vote on a Supreme Court nominee until next year: "There cannot be one set of rules for a Republican President and one set for a Democratic President"
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/517233-judiciary-dems-urge-graham-to-delay-supreme-court-nominee-until-next-year
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Looks like we are back to flooding the threads with twitter again. Sigh
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Yeah, what the hell is this? It was so nice around here for a few weeks when a certain poster was on vacation.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Widbill, the comment was insincere because he pretended to not know the precedent set just 4 years ago and because of the plain language of the Constitution.
jm192
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I think Mitch really screwed things up by not putting Obama's nominee to a vote. Trump of course will get his next appointee in, and the SC swings to the Conservative side. Perfectly within the Constitution.
Then if the Dems win the presidency and the senate, Congress will increase the Supreme Court from 9 to 13. And the SC swings back to Democrat. Perfectly within the Constitution.
This process will continue for the foreseeable future. Mitch will go down as the guys that ####ed things up.
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
Why would the Senate, led by the same party as the President, oppose the President’s nomination? There’s not a precedent here. When has that happened?
