AAABatteries 24,463 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I assume people walk away from both sides at different times in their lives for different reason and with a country as large as ours you will always be able to find people to prove your point. But ignoring that, how about we focus on our community - the one where we have know people for years - people that have told their walk away story (whether it be walking away from one party to the other or from one party to being Independent). GBs like Yankee and Ivan and Bob and Woz - hell, I will include myself to a degree. There’s lots of people around here, smart people, who have have said that they can no longer vote with the party and for the policies of that party any more. And that party is the GOP. I’d love to here from somebody here that we’ve known for years and has the opposite story and would be willing to share that story. You see, there’s always going to be policy differences, there’s always going to be differences on tax cuts and how we spend our money - I think everybody expects those things and debates around it can be healthy. But right now we have a side that is demonizing immigration and is telling minorities they shouldn’t protest. Immigration and protesting are two things that make our country great. If people really want to walk towards those policies then it says a lot more to me about those people than about what they claim they are walking away from. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,436 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 3:15 PM, JohnnyU said: After listening to Democratic Socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talk it should be #runaway, not #walkaway. Could anyone sound more ignorant and uninformed? Someone ask this nut job who is going to pay for all this free stuff? That's right, let the government give all this free stuff (free medicare for all, free college education, free housing, universal jobs guaranteed, and others. Also, while you're at it let's open our borders to everyone and abolish ICE. Her ignorance on the Israel and Palestine was entertaining to watch. If this is where the democratic party is going, I'm sure it is welcome news to conservatives. Most Americans don't want this socialist BS, which never works by the way. That message may have influence in New York and possibly California, but not in most of America and never will. I refer to her as #crazyeyes Updated to indicate education as college. Simple enough....take any one of the proposed items and ask yourself how many decades of that program could be paid for by the tax cut package that Trump and the GOP gave to rich people and big business. Being concerned about paying for things is very 1999.....that ship has sailed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cockroach 2,591 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 21 hours ago, HellToupee said: https://www.reddit.com/r/walkaway/comments/96ciem/im_a_black_woman_who_decided_to_walkaway_from_the/ Lol, she walked away over 10 years ago and doesn't consider herself a republican. Huge loss for the left. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 23 hours ago, HellToupee said: https://www.reddit.com/r/walkaway/comments/96ciem/im_a_black_woman_who_decided_to_walkaway_from_the/ Kira Davis is doing a AMA on walkaway 2 reddit topics? Are we sure she's even real? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gopher State 959 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I voted dem my entire life, but the message seems so negative from them lately, it feels like it’s time to vote independent or third party. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gopher State said: I voted dem my entire life, but the message seems so negative from them lately, it feels like it’s time to vote independent or third party. The message sof... Protecting the right to choose Healthcare for all Supporting women who have been sexual assaulted and promoting #metoo Supporting an open immigration policy just to name a few. I would think these are things a lifelong democratic supporter would recognize. Through all the media noise the message is there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 12,486 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Gopher State said: I voted dem my entire life, but the message seems so negative from them lately, it feels like it’s time to vote independent or third party. Yes and who here can forget your unwavering support for Hillary in 2016. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 16,087 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, toshiba said: The message sof... Protecting the right to choose Healthcare for all Supporting women who have been sexual assaulted and promoting #metoo Supporting an open immigration policy just to name a few. I would think these are things a lifelong democratic supporter would recognize. Through all the media noise the message is there. What I have heard talking to people is they are tired of feeling like they are looked down on by the left. I've posted before that a good # voted for trump because of that. Maybe Gopher is saying that their platform isn't negative, but they are getting caught up in the negative tactics of the right? Ie if you don't support young trans kids getting hormones and surgery you are a transphobe, if you say men and women aren't the same, you are sexist and could get tagged for hate speech, etc.. it turns people off from both sides when your views are crapped on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 10:43 AM, Weebs210 said: This is a real movement wether you want to believe it or not. Many former Democrat's are starting to see what the party truly is on top of results that Trump is producing. Trump said his massive tax cut would increase workers wages by $4,000 per family. Official gov't data was just released and it shows real wages have DECREASED 0.4% over the last year 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said: What I have heard talking to people is they are tired of feeling like they are looked down on by the left. I've posted before that a good # voted for trump because of that. Maybe Gopher is saying that their platform isn't negative, but they are getting caught up in the negative tactics of the right? Ie if you don't support young trans kids getting hormones and surgery you are a transphobe, if you say men and women aren't the same, you are sexist and could get tagged for hate speech, etc.. it turns people off from both sides when your views are crapped on. Maybe that is what @Gopher State is saying, I will wait to hear that from him, If that is what you think then I think it is interesting that some would rather congregate with the racist, sexists and homophobes because they don't like to be viewed as racist, sexist or homophobic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, -fish- said: Trump said his massive tax cut would increase workers wages by $4,000 per family. Official gov't data was just released and it shows real wages have DECREASED 0.4% over the last year SHOCKER! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, toshiba said: SHOCKER! Trickle down economics was sure to work this time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, -fish- said: Trickle down economics was sure to work this time! One of these times they might get lucky and have some data that maybe could indicate it would if the numbers are twisted enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarmaPolice 16,087 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, toshiba said: Maybe that is what @Gopher State is saying, I will wait to hear that from him, If that is what you think then I think it is interesting that some would rather congregate with the racist, sexists and homophobes because they don't like to be viewed as racist, sexist or homophobic. Just relaying an observation. I could see it making people want to vote 3rd party like Gopher suggested. A big problem with both sides is the fringes scream the loudest and lose people in the middle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huthut 1,540 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) The fringe elements of literal neonazis walking the street or not wanting poor people to die from preventable illnesses, I guess both sides are wrong. Equally wrong. If someone is lost in the middle due to loud people on the fringe, they are either the straight ticket republican voters who say they are independent because they are to cowardly to own their terrible policies, or they are dumb. There might have been space for moderation in the 80's, but it is gone now. Edited August 14, 2018 by huthut 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Daulton 9,256 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Walkaway, Q, biggest electoral win of all time, NK denuclearization, it's like these people do nothing but immerse themselves in fake stories and are so invested in them that they'll just regurgitate every single party line in support of the fakeness. What a bizarre time for our country. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,562 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, James Daulton said: Walkaway, Q, biggest electoral win of all time, NK denuclearization, it's like these people do nothing but immerse themselves in fake stories and are so invested in them that they'll just regurgitate every single party line in support of the fakeness. What a bizarre time for our country. And then call everything else fake news 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NFL2DF 489 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,506 Posted September 12, 2018 Author Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. And the do-gooders cheer on the censorship 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 12,486 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. And for those who liken this to the Nazis, Facebook and Twitter are not government entities, they are private companies. Also, while we all enjoy the 1st Amendment freedom of speech, there is no Constitutional right to have a Facebook or Twitter account. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, squistion said: 37 minutes ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. And for those who liken this to the Nazis, Facebook and Twitter are not government entities, they are private companies. Also, while we all enjoy the 1st Amendment freedom of speech, there is no Constitutional right to have a Facebook or Twitter account. I don't think he understands this. It's a simple concept but chooses to not think outside his narrow view. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Matthias said: Nazis were white supremacists who were hostile to other races and in favor of consolidation of power in an autocratic leader. Any sensible and meaningful application of Godwin's Law points directly at a different group of folks. Godwin’s law has been suspended. It’s ok to call Nazis what they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, HellToupee said: And the do-gooders cheer on the censorship Private businesses are free to ban posters. In this case, the particular poster has been shown to have posted false information for the purpose of drawing a reaction. It’s no different than if Joe banned you, weebs, opie, qanon, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slapdash 16,240 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 hours ago, squistion said: And for those who liken this to the Nazis, Facebook and Twitter are not government entities, they are private companies. Also, while we all enjoy the 1st Amendment freedom of speech, there is no Constitutional right to have a Facebook or Twitter account. Particularly when you are using that account to spread fake news, hatred, and foreign propaganda. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,436 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I was promised a million person march....when is that going down again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
knowledge dropper 6,436 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 17 hours ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. First they came for Facebook accounts, and they said nothing..., Quote Link to post Share on other sites
knowledge dropper 6,436 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 More people waking up: https://www.yahoo.com/news/unfiltered-democratic-plantation-really-worse-plantation-grew-003637996.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said: More people waking up: https://www.yahoo.com/news/unfiltered-democratic-plantation-really-worse-plantation-grew-003637996.html You can't trust the MSM, fake news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickies 9,331 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 17 hours ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. The "movement" is literally two random guys on YouTube and a few thousand Russian bots. Meanwhile we have Republican politicians abandoning their party because they can't support it any longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,506 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, toshiba said: You can't trust the MSM, fake news! Most times this sentiment is true but occasionally the truth sneaks through Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,506 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Dickies said: The "movement" is literally two random guys on YouTube and a few thousand Russian bots. Meanwhile we have Republican politicians abandoning their party because they can't support it any longer. This simply is not true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toshiba 2,131 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Just now, HellToupee said: 24 minutes ago, toshiba said: You can't trust the MSM, fake news! Most times this sentiment is true but occasionally the truth sneaks through If you say so 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatness 6,287 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dickies said: The "movement" is literally two random guys on YouTube and a few thousand Russian bots. It started like that but it has grown. Now it includes thousands of idiots believing it's real. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urbanhack 12,143 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This simply is not true If you say so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dickies 9,331 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, fatness said: It started like that but it has grown. Now it includes thousands of idiots believing it's real. Don't believe the MSM propaganda! -Guy propagandized by Russian bots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TobiasFunke 29,546 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, HellToupee said: This simply is not true I know people have hammered you on this a lot over the years but in this case it's 100% relevant. You fell hard for the New Hampshire voter fraud thing, a hoax perpetrated by right wing online types who were trying to alter perceptions of the relative popularity of each side of the aisle. So you really don't have a lot of credibility when it comes to evaluating allegations that right wing types are engaged in a hoax aimed at altering perceptions of the relative popularity of each side of the aisle. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyToughGuys 3,149 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. 19 hours ago, HellToupee said: And the do-gooders cheer on the censorship I bet you guys were just SCREAMING when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Colorado Baker. Edited September 13, 2018 by JerseyToughGuys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyToughGuys 3,149 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Is it mental gymnastics / intellectual dishonestly, or just not that bright? Never can tell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,506 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, JerseyToughGuys said: I bet you guys were just SCREAMING when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Colorado Baker. Wasn’t me but I thought it was stupid for a case like this to go to the SC -why would you want to give hard earned money to a person that -if a person held those negative beliefs about me why on earth would I want to force them into making something for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 12,486 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Wasn’t me but I thought it was stupid for a case like this to go to the SC -why would you want to give hard earned money to a person that -if a person held those negative beliefs about me why on earth would I want to force them into making something for me For the same reason as black folks in the 60s sat in those segregated Woolworth lunch counters People like you were probably asking then: Why are these Negroes so uppity as to want to spend their money on a meal that the store did want to serve to them? Edited September 13, 2018 by squistion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 15,506 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, squistion said: For the same reason as black folks in the 60s sat in those segregated Woolworth lunch counters People like you were probably asking then: Why are these Negroes so uppity as to want to spend their money on a meal that the store did want to serve to them? Yeah that’s it pops , you nailed me. You got me good there codger. That’s it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,436 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, JerseyToughGuys said: Is it mental gymnastics / intellectual dishonestly, or just not that bright? Never can tell. It's mental gymnastics and intellectual dishonesty being performed by those who aren't that bright. Makes for good theater. That's about it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Ford 60,520 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. He was temporarily suspended for adding InfoWars content/video to his facebook account. Because InfoWars has been banned from facebook. His accounts are still online. https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka?ref=br_rs https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka.12?ref=br_rs Edited September 13, 2018 by Henry Ford 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatness 6,287 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 hours ago, NFL2DF said: Facebook banned the founder of the walkaway movement. Link It is pretty incredible watching in real time as social media companies, the MSM, and Dem leadership move closer and closer to behaving just like Nazis. And even more depressing to see the easily manipulated masses be perfectly okay with this behavior. Doesn't Facebook know that conservatives are not subject to Facebook's rules, because freedom of expression and such as? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qanon 122 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 hours ago, squistion said: And for those who liken this to the Nazis, Facebook and Twitter are not government entities, they are private companies. Also, while we all enjoy the 1st Amendment freedom of speech, there is no Constitutional right to have a Facebook or Twitter account. So they censor a gay hairdresser? #Walkaway like Q is much larger that you realize. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qanon 122 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Henry Ford said: He was temporarily suspended for adding InfoWars content/video to his facebook account. Because InfoWars has been banned from facebook. His accounts are still online. https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka?ref=br_rs https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka.12?ref=br_rs He was taken down because there is a #Walkaway march scheduled in 6 weeks and they did not want him to have access to hi followers. He was taken down (I watched the video), he had to restart and many of his followers helped spread the word. This movement is also too large to stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 16,562 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Henry Ford said: He was temporarily suspended for adding InfoWars content/video to his facebook account. Because InfoWars has been banned from facebook. His accounts are still online. https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka?ref=br_rs https://www.facebook.com/brandon.straka.12?ref=br_rs NFL2DF again posted false information? That can't be...Mr Nazi Haircut thread would never do that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 12,486 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Qanon said: So they censor a gay hairdresser? #Walkaway like Q is much larger that you realize. Meh, #Walkaway membership is like the New Black Panthers (probably less than a dozen people). In fact the New Black Panthers, probably has more members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Ford 60,520 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Qanon said: He was taken down because there is a #Walkaway march scheduled in 6 weeks and they did not want him to have access to hi followers. He was taken down (I watched the video), he had to restart and many of his followers helped spread the word. This movement is also too large to stop. The Walkaway Campaign page has a video posted by it in May. It certainly wasn't taken down. https://www.facebook.com/WalkAwayCampaign/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatness 6,287 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I had tacos an hour ago. This movement is bigger than you realize. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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