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Gotcha - I guess I don't see that stuff being a social media hermit. Don't have Twitter, barely use FB. Basically these boards are my only "social media" on a regular basis, which I guess I am surprised at some of the comments, but I get it if most of you are dealing with these posts outside of these boards plus a few here.Todem said:
I love Star Wars. I liked TFA but TLJ wasn’t a good movie IMO. I thought Rey would be a great character but as the movies have progressed, I haven’t found her to be compelling. Yes that was some hyperbole comparing her to CM, but I don’t think the criticism that she comes across as overpowered is “ridiculous.”
His biggest problem is that he's long winded, and loves to hear himself yammer on. I swear I heard something about the Gungans in there at one point.
See things like this make me think you're not a Star wars fan. 1-3 are Star wars. 7-9 are just made up as we go.
I don’t get this. 1-3 are piles of garbage when it comes to entertaining movies. The sucked. So I don’t care if they’re "Star Wars" or not.
Then there's nothing more to discuss. Your opinion means nothing to me if that's what you think.
What do the prequels "add" to Star Wars? That an annoying kid can be tricked by a bad guy into becoming the coolest villain ever? Even the sentence I just typed sounds cooler than how it was actually portrayed over 3 movies. And don’t forget all the riveting political and trade dispute drama. So great that all of that was added to the Star Wars story.
They're world's better than TLJ. TFA is more entertaining but adds less to Star Wars than they do.
Yes it was great to see how the Sith could manipulate a corrupt political system into gaining absolute power over the Galaxy. It was also great to see more areas of the Galaxy and more people and creatures of the Galaxy. The Galaxy felt like a huge galactic community that interconnected with one another. These were ideas that were only alluded to in the original trilogy and we finally got to see them on screen. These are also ideas that were expanded upon in the EU. It was great to see coruscant on screen for the first time and the Jedi council on screen for the first time and all the different Jedi that existed before they were killed off. Espionage, political corruption, sith vs Jedi all for control of the galactic community, what's not to love?
At the risk of another pointless debate what makes them more Star Wars, whatever that is? 7-9 used more puppets and techniques found in the OT. 1-3 were a CGI-fest that look horrid now.
Wow. Glad you enjoyed them so much and got so much out of them.
The story. What does puppets or CGI matter if the story is haphazard #### that gets contradicted in the next episode?
PADME becomes aware that ANAKIN is looking at her.
Well I appreciate your work because the Prequels were awesome to me and many others out there. I just watched 1-2 again the other day. E1 is still awesome. E2 the dialogue and the love scenes are cringe but the rest is great.
Ep1 brought us the dual between Maul and Qui Gon and then Maul and Obi Wan. That was epic.
The dialogue and acting is too bad to get around. Too much politics/trade stuff. There are good moments in all of them but not worth re-watching.
Agree to a certain extent. The writing was weak (but it was on the original trilogy as well but saved by some great acting). What I really love about the prequel's was the expanded universe and the different races and worlds full of life. It was pretty awesome. Yeah too much CGI, but that was the times it was made in.
The prequels has terrible acting, horrific cgi, a script that seems written by a 14-year old, and two movies that most think are by far the two worst SW films of them all (PM/AOTC)
Years ago I tried to get "Wrong Thread Guy" alias but it never got it approved. Used properly right here it could have been awesome.
There's more reasons, do you want those also?
Agree with this. I also think it was set up horribly by having Anakin so young in TPM along side an already adult Natalie Portman. iirc from other media Padme is only supposed to be a couple years older than Anakin, but the age gap feels much bigger and Padme comes off as a completely paternal figure in the movie. It makes the love story feel creepy right out of the gate in Ep. 2.
First, I have liked all of the movies on different levels and they each had flaws. What I didn't like was some of the things shoehorned in that opened continuity errors with the originals that really didn't need to be there.
Lucas spent years worrying about making cool critters, dancing cgi aliens, and neat special effects. The story and the acting suffered.
Lucas did a ton of "retconning" right from the start. He originally had envisioned Anakin and Vader as two people. When he made ESB he combined them. That created some obvious inconsistencies that he ironed out with the Luke/Obi-Wan conversation in ROTJ.
I'm in the same boat. Aside from Empire, which is pretty close to a perfect film I think they all have some good and bad.
Question: how are 1-3 "Star Wars," when anyone who knows anything about the series knows how it's going to end. Oh, it's a trilogy about Anakin Skywalker? Everyone knows how that's going to turn out, and they weren't that good of movies anyway. My wife and I were watching the series before we went and saw Ep9, I could have skipped everything with Jar Jar, Ep2 entirely, and about the first half of Ep3. Colossal waste of time.
Just finished 2nd viewing. I enjoyed it so much more the second time. ONce I knew the story and accepted that this is what the story is...wow. So powerful. Great acting, great cinematography and a perfect end to the series. Easily the best SW movie of them all. No idea what the critics are thinking, but who cares. Interestingly a teenage kid behind us as we were walking out was asking his dad why the critics didn't like it. He was telling his dad it was a perfect 10/10. Which pretty much sums up how most young people feel about this one. Absolutely perfect.
Yeah I didn't get that critique. I'm totally fine with someone saying that the prequels are their favorites. Also totally fine with someone not liking 7-9. But making absurd and over-the-top statements like "1-6 WERE Star Wars and 7-9 aren't" is just silly.
I agree. If someone likes the prequels, that's fine, I find them boring because I knew how the story was going to end, so there's little chance for surprise. But to outright dismiss an entire trilogy because of reasons seems foolhardy to me( for the record, I only saw 8-9 out of the new trilogy, but 7 was spoiled for me by the internet, so no huge deal there. May have to go back and see how these characters get established, though). Honestly, 8 wasn't that bad of a movie to me, it was at least better than 1-2.
Movies always suffer a bit when you know what's going to happen. It's why remakes usually feel a bit flat. Even if you like them, knowing what's going to happen takes the fun out of it. We always knew the basic story of 1-3 and aside from the fate of a couple of ancillary characters, we knew where all these guys were going to be 30 years later.
Weirdly enough, I loved all the LOTR films, even though I knew what would happen in them. It was interesting seeing how they brought it to life, I guess.
God yes. All the political and trade stuff put my little boys, who should be in the target market, to sleep. Never got them to watch 2 after the slog that was 1.
Earlier someone said something about Luke only having 30 minutes of screen time in the sequels. While I suppose more time for an aging overweight guy was an option, I always thought the biggest miss in the entire history of SW is having 3 movies and 7 hours of screen time showing the fall of Anakin Skywalker to Vader, and only devoting 15 seconds to Vader in the mask.
