Thunderlips
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It's ALWAYS BEEN THAT! A New Hope is basically one of the defining examples of "blockbuster popcorn flick" in modern cinema.
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Politician Spock
Footballguy
Everyone knew what was going to happen to Walter White from the very 1st episode of Breaking Bad. If he was just going to stop making meth one day and live a normal life, it would have been a stupid story. It was one of the greatest TV series in history BECAUSE people knew he was going to destroy himself and the writers made that path to destruction entertaining.
When I see how TV series did such an awesome job of taking a school teacher to a drug lord over 40 to 50 hours of footage with a TV series budget, I weep at how badly the prequels took a Jedi to a Sith lord in around 7 hours with a top of the line movie budget.
My dream is that one day Vince Gilligan gets the opportunity to tell the story of how Anakin became Darth Vader.
shader
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I wouldn’t put it past Disney to one day remake the prequels. They probably need to wait another 10-30 years but I could see it happening.Everyone knew what was going to happen to Walter White from the very 1st episode of Breaking Bad. If he was just going to stop making meth one day and live a normal life, it would have been a stupid story. It was one of the greatest TV series in history BECAUSE people knew he was going to destroy himself and the writers made that path to destruction entertaining.
When I see how TV series did such an awesome job of taking a school teacher to a drug lord over 40 to 50 hours of footage with a TV series budget, I weep at how badly the prequels took a Jedi to a Sith lord in around 7 hours with a top of the line movie budget.
My dream is that one day Vince Gilligan gets the opportunity to tell the story of how Anakin became Darth Vader.
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Todem
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When we are grandparents in the next 10-15 years (some of you may be already...sheesh) I would not put it past Disney to remake the original trilogy to milk this cow for everything they can.
TheFanatic
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I absolutely expect it. I know how iconic it is and all, but I expect the dollar signs to outweigh the sacrilege.
joey
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I’m not sure why people are betting against this idea. I mean, Disney is literally doing exactly this right now with the "live action" remakes of their animated classics. They do this in order to retain rights for the next X years. When Star Wars is old in the tooth, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get animated versions of the Star Wars movies. Then, 30 years later, live action versions again. But I’ll be dead then so it’s on my great grand kids to come post in here about it.
TheFanatic
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I hadn't thought about a double remake, but yeah, that is probably going to happen.I’m not sure why people are betting against this idea. I mean, Disney is literally doing exactly this right now with the "live action" remakes of their animated classics. They do this in order to retain rights for the next X years. When Star Wars is old in the tooth, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get animated versions of the Star Wars movies. Then, 30 years later, live action versions again. But I’ll be dead then so it’s on my great grand kids to come post in here about it.
Insein
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They can't. That's part of the agreement with Lucas. They can't touch the original trilogy. Don't know if the prequels have the same protection.
joey
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shader
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I've read similar. In fact, they aren't even allowed to alter Lucas' final versions of the 6...which is an absolute shame. I hate that the ROTJ that is on Disney+ and on my blu-ray is the version with the stupid dancing aliens with big lips. I hate the edited in animal humor that distract from the scenes. But those are Lucas' babies and I get that he wants them to be unedited. I respect that decision of his.Insein said:
As to whether they should be updated, that's a decent question. Upon my last viewing of the OT, for the first time I began to think that they are finally really showing their age. Reboots would be wildly successful, especially of the prequels. But to me Disney needs to break away from this timeline and create a new one.
TheFanatic
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Yes they do. That being said, the TROS is doing well at the box office and while being billed as the last of this timeline, it wouldn't be hard to make another one. If this one hits the magic billion dollar mark, or even crests 700M, do we see Rey reappear in a few years? She could do her own thing. No actual Skywalkers in the next one. Just her on some mission to take on some threat. Maybe a battle hardened Mando and his spunky Yoda side kick need some help with some hidden Sith outpost?
Personally, I'd like to see more about the Old Republic. Those games were lots of fun, and had a good story.
Insein
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$1 billion isn't really that magically anymore. That would be 43rd all time. This movie needs to be in the $1.3b to $1.6b range to be considered a success. TLJ grossed $1.3b. I'd say this one ends up around $1.4b.
Aerial Assault
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Daisy Ridley was awesome in this trilogy and I really, really want them to bring Rey back in live action in the future.
NewlyRetired
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There are a few ideas in development for the next series of movies and I believe this time period was one of them.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-movie-first-female-writer-1202144519/
Insein
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It depends on where you want to go. If you want to advance in the main story, the Jedi Academy trilogy is a good one. Deals with Luke, Han and Chewie. Luke is setting up the new Jedi academy but lots of things go wrong. Good compelling story. Set about 11 years after ANH. There are a lot of good one off books in this time frame as well.
If you want some good portrayals of old characters like Han and Boba Fett, try the Han Solo Trilogy (Paradise Snare, Hutt Gambit and Rebel Dawn) and the Bounty Hunter Trilogy (Mandalorian Armor, Slave Ship and Hard Merchandise). The solo trilogy is fantastic and why I find the movie so horrible. The BH trilogy deals with Boba Fett surviving the Sarlacc by crawling his way out of it's stomach. It is set in the time the Mandalorian show is right now. Not sure if they'll bring any elements of it over but I have seen some simple things like the BH guild and the rules of conduct for it being used from this trilogy. Great read either way for more of the grittier side of Star wars.
After that, the next major trilogy would be the Corellian Trilogy. This is set 18 years after ANH and it's the first time we really see the Solo kids start to go out in their own. Jaina and Jacen are about 13 at this point and their younger brother, Anakin Solo, is about 8 or so. Luke, Leia and Han are all still major players especially Han dealing with his homeworld. This is the trilogy that really kicks off a lot of the ground work for all the books to come after though. It was a major shift from the main 3 to starting to show the Solo kids coming into their own.
Plenty of other material to get to after that but those are the biggest IMO.
Osaurus
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Did you warn her about all the whining in 2?Since my wife is a relatively new Star Wars convert we decided to watch episode 1 today. As she read the scroll about trade and blockades she blurted our “oh my god this is going to be CNBC in space!”
I told her yes, but that would actually be episode 2.
Capella
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
That is an old story. B and B from Game of Thrones have been canned from the project.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I agree with all of this, except the Bounter Hunter Trilogy. Those stories are terrible. Sure, we get how Fett survived the Sarlacc, but the rest was terrible.
Insein
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TheFanatic
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I believe they claim he was a body guard before becoming a bounty hunter. I just never liked the back story. And the story dragged on quite a bit. I was so geeked about reading it and was completely underwhelmed. But that's me.
Insein
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Just got it. Well my wife said get whatever game you want for Christmas, idk what you like. Fallen order it is. Everyone I know loves it. Can't wait.
NewlyRetired
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From what I understand, Kalogridis is still writing the story. She was hired before and is continuing moving forward. I don't think it was ever formally stated that Beinoff and Weiss were working on her particular story.
Tony Jabroni
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A movie based solely on Darth Vader, would shatter any record. One of MY favorite pieces of cinema, is the scene in Rogue One, when its all dark, the alarm is going, all of the sudden you hear the breathing. Then the lightsaber ignites. Then goodnight, mother####ers.
Someone needs to do this.
Tony Jabroni
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TheFanatic
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I'm not sure what story they were working on, all I know is they are no longer working on anything for Star Wars.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Likely going tomorrow. Have avoided all spoilers.
Aerial Assault
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Love Rogue One but I was initially disappointed with it because THAT could have been the Darth Vader movie.
They could have made (and still could) a move called Darth Vader. The preview would just be his breathing following by "Darth Vader" Christmas 2022....
We saw him in Rouge One in his best action for about 1 minute. We saw him angry in Empire choking everyone and showing his power of the Dark Side while defeating Luke.
We also saw him look 90 years old in A New Hope against Obi-Wan who actually wanted to lose.
Point is, we barely saw Darth Vader in his prime. I would love a movie where he is on the hunt for any remaining Jedi and seeing him slashing up his enemies and becoming a fully powered Sith. Perhaps Yoda can build his little hut, Obi-Wan can change his name to Ben and stalk a young Luke and drive his Uncle/Aunt crazy, maybe we see his face when he hears rumors about Vader..Maybe we see how Tarken (??) becomes the leader of the Death Star and is able to give Vader orders for some context to the overall story
Insein
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I know some won't care but this is just laughable by Disney.
Disney Changed Official timeline to Center on Starkiller incident instead of Battle of Yavin
Disney Changed Official timeline to Center on Starkiller incident instead of Battle of Yavin
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I always thought that the prequels were not so bad and that there were good movies in there somewhere.
We didn’t need a full movie of anakin as a kid. Show him get discovered then jump forward in episode 1. Turn him at end of 2. Hunt jedi in 3.
We didn’t need a full movie of anakin as a kid. Show him get discovered then jump forward in episode 1. Turn him at end of 2. Hunt jedi in 3.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I could see Disney trying to do a movie or even a trilogy centered around a live action Ahsoka Tano.
Beloved character from the animated shows, female lead, wields lightsabers but is not a Jedi, which could allow for more flaws of “humanity”. Would seem to check all of the boxes
Beloved character from the animated shows, female lead, wields lightsabers but is not a Jedi, which could allow for more flaws of “humanity”. Would seem to check all of the boxes
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
I doubt this is even a consideration. Probably a bit too dark for Disney to have a Sith Lord hunting Jedi with a light saber, etc. There would have to be some of these subplots mixed in so I threw in the Obi-Wan (although the new Disney series will probably take on some of this in theory too).
joey
Footballguy
I think Lucasfilm has a voice double already lined up for JEJones. Same as they have a composer lined up to take over the reins for John Williams.
Hot Diggity Dog
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I would love to see Disney's financial books to date on the Star Wars purchase. Have they made money on this deal?
4 billion to buy the franchise, 5 films that have production and marketing cost in the 300 million range each, plus construction cost in the theme parks. Disney's got to be pushing 6 billion in cost for the franchise so far. Returns so far
TFA 2.1 billion
TLJ 1.3
Rogue One 850 million
Solo 450 million?
TROS lets say it hits 1.5 billion.
6.2 billion income maybe by the end of ROS? There is other income to of course merchandise etc. Would just like to see Disney's internal numbers.
4 billion to buy the franchise, 5 films that have production and marketing cost in the 300 million range each, plus construction cost in the theme parks. Disney's got to be pushing 6 billion in cost for the franchise so far. Returns so far
TFA 2.1 billion
TLJ 1.3
Rogue One 850 million
Solo 450 million?
TROS lets say it hits 1.5 billion.
6.2 billion income maybe by the end of ROS? There is other income to of course merchandise etc. Would just like to see Disney's internal numbers.
Otis
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Yeah, I’ll bet that “other” category is massive—it’s not just a throw in.
also relevant: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/10/30/six-years-after-buying-lucasfilm-disney-has-recouped-its-investment.html
I might be in the minority, but a Vader movie makes zero sense to me. We saw his turn to the dark side, and his antics during the original trilogy, what would be the point of him hunting Jedi down? It would be an obvious money grab, even more so than the prequels werecubd8 said:
It's a money grab for sure and the plot is simple. The challenge would be having enough of a story line since we already know what happened and what will in the future. I just wanted more of Vader as we never saw him in his prime outside of the scene in Rogue 1 and the his battle with Obi-Wan that he ultimately lost.
Hot Diggity Dog
Footballguy
I would not thought it was that high but makes sense when you think of the variety of items with star wars branding. Still would like to see the books.
