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6 hours ago, zoonation said:

Watched the first two.  Jesus Christ.  

:goodposting: What I got out of it is Q is like a choose your own adventure for people who are easily manipulated. 

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QUenton they say that when two people live together for a long time that when they die they usually die around the same time. you see it with twins. one twin die and then the other one die right away.

Quonan thnak you for you service.

Yes, I think Q's take on John McCain is disgusting, and anyone who believes it is a rube.

On 3/28/2021 at 8:52 PM, Thunderlips said:

Man...after watching the first two...I'm HOPING that Q is actually an imbeded op in the Trump Administration and not one of these guys.  If its the Watkins' or one of these other board guys and so many thousands fell for it.......that's REALLY embarassing for this country.

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Well your heart was in the right place.  I assume your mind had started working on acceptance by now.

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On 3/28/2021 at 7:22 PM, zoonation said:

It’s embarrassing for the human race. 

I’m embarrassed enough by my own stupidity. I don’t have time to worry about the stupidity of others. 

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On 4/6/2021 at 9:18 PM, Maurile Tremblay said:

If the premise here is: 

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It’s less fun, but far more important, to piece together why QAnon was able to grow as rapidly and widely as it did, or what that says about this moment in American politics, or how we can move past it.

then I really don't agree.  

There are already many studies and discussions about why people get caught up in conspiracy theories.  I don't really think that's much of a mystery.  

With QAnon, you have a very distinct beginning, and with his predictions, a very clear end.  The online grifters can move the goalposts all they want, but Trump is not taking down the Deep State, there will be no mass arrests. The is no Storm.  With QAnon, you have the ability, moreso than any of these other conspiracies, to truly expose it.   

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Awesome. Jim Watkins is my hero, not in the like I wanna do what he did way. But, in the I wana get to a point in my life that I dont give F what anyone thinks and the rest is just a game for fun way. 

So Q was responsible for Jan 6th, more than Trump then, unless you believe like the Q and think he was in on it. 

What was the big drop Ron had for Jan 6th?  I guess it didnt matter after everything went out of control?  

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19 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Awesome. Jim Watkins is my hero, not in the like I wanna do what he did way. But, in the I wana get to a point in my life that I dont give F what anyone thinks and the rest is just a game for fun way. 

:lol: yeah man, I totally get what you're saying.  gotta admit I sort of envy that too.  

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9 hours ago, tonydead said:

So Q was responsible for Jan 6th, more than Trump then, unless you believe like the Q and think he was in on it.

There is a lot of blame to go around.

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10 hours ago, tonydead said:

Awesome. Jim Watkins is my hero, not in the like I wanna do what he did way. But, in the I wana get to a point in my life that I dont give F what anyone thinks and the rest is just a game for fun way. 

So Q was responsible for Jan 6th, more than Trump then, unless you believe like the Q and think he was in on it. 

What was the big drop Ron had for Jan 6th?  I guess it didnt matter after everything went out of control?  

I thought they said that it was that Pence was in on a conspiracy to remove Trump?

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57 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

There is a lot of blame to go around.

Sure.

1) People who believe everything they read on the internet.

2) People who know that people believe everything they read on the internet and use that to their advantage.

3) The Republican Party; particularly Trump....who embraced the Q narrative during the election year.

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32 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Trump didnt incite a resurrection like the lefties were crying about for months. 

Remember right after the 6th how many people, including chuck shumer, referred to it as inciting an erection? I feel like I can laugh about that a little now. 
As to your comment, were there a lot of evangelicals inside the Capitol? Seems like a weird place to try to raise Jesus.

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4 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

Remember right after the 6th how many people, including chuck shumer, referred to it as inciting an erection? I feel like I can laugh about that a little now. 
As to your comment, were there a lot of evangelicals inside the Capitol? Seems like a weird place to try to raise Jesus.

:lmao: 

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3 hours ago, Insomniac said:

The Knight is on E4 not D5. What is the meaning of that?

give them a minute, they'll find something

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9 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

People giving tweet-length explanations about why they like Q.

https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968

Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.

Hopefully these same folks watch the documentary and do some self-reflection. 

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10 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

People giving tweet-length explanations about why they like Q.

https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968

Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.

Your post reminds me of some of the language that I've seen from Q or from various cult leaders -- i.e., telling potential initiates that they're good people, that they've been the victim of misinformation, that they trusted the wrong people, that they're not dumb, etc.

So, my takeaway from your post is that the best way to get people out of a cult is to use some of the same tactics that got them into the cult in the first place. But if that's the case, then doesn't it pose an ethical dilemma? Should we be using manipulative language to sway vulnerable people, even if we're doing it for good reasons instead of bad ones?

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11 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

People giving tweet-length explanations about why they like Q.

https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968

Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.

It's fair to question where any of their critical thinking skills went.  OK, they believed a bunch of dumb stuff from Q.  Fine.  

Why is this still happening?  https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1383706975058288646

Lin Wood out here giving revivalist speeches about Q. 

Clearly Trump is not mas-arresting famous pedophiles.  There are no 100,000 sealed indictments.  Clearly this was a LARP on a racist, nasty porn imageboard. 

Yeah, there are a bunch of good-hearted people.  Who are unwilling to consider that they got suckered.  

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12 hours ago, massraider said:

It's fair to question where any of their critical thinking skills went.

Sure, but wait till you hear about all the people who believe in astrology, or that carbohydrates are uniquely unhealthy, or that being an Amway distributor is a promising thing to get in on, or the "Law of Attraction" in The Secret, or Christianity.

A huge percentage of people believe something epistemically vacuous. That's a common feature of human cognition.

We can't be experts about everything ourselves, so we have to rely on information we get from others, which leaves us vulnerable to being manipulated.

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How sad this is. I was once hacked by some guys in a typical 4chan/8chan thing and they altered my reality by doing really weird stuff with my digital devices. No fun. I resent Q using otherwise decent yet credulous people as tools for their own amusement. This was serious stuff with serious ramifications for everybody. I don't get that trip.

I don't sympathize as much with them as Maurile does, and I think that totally excusing the prey because they're "epistemically inane" like everyone else trots a little too close to relativism, but I can relate to a warped reality for a time and the confusion inherent when somebody plays games like this on the susceptible. It's low-grade and low-rent for the high stakes of ####s and giggles? Uncool.

As for what drives people to believe this, imagine a profound inequality of conditions mixed with a lack of transparency in society and government, driven by a mendacious and sensationalistic media, and that's where you can see the issues fomenting that are inherent in something like this, inherent in all conspiracy theories, really.

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7 hours ago, rockaction said:

I was once hacked by some guys in a typical 4chan/8chan thing and they altered my reality by doing really weird stuff with my digital devices.

Wait, wut?

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On 4/17/2021 at 10:01 PM, Maurile Tremblay said:

People giving tweet-length explanations about why they like Q.

https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968

Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.

Frankly I think they have a little more culpability than this. Yes they’re good people (generally), yes they’re trying to make sense of it all, but they’re not behaving good in this instance. They’re looking for others to blame, and they’re deliberately choosing to accept  explanations that justify their preheld beliefs. 

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I think they have more culpability NOW. 

No one is going to prove that astrology isn't real.  

But it has NOW been proven that there are no mass arrests, and if Trump is taking down a pedophile cabal, why is he just trudging around Mar-a-Lago, posing for photos with his creepy thumbs up?

Remember, part of the QAnon dogma was that Mueller was secretly working with Trump to take these people down.

At some point, these people need to recognize they've been bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray.  

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1 hour ago, The Z Machine said:

Wait, wut?

Yeah, I had my administrative rights taken away on my computer and phone and was getting like typed messages on applications to me, songs would start, etc., depending on who was manning it. I was seriously confused. Don't want to dwell on it too much. I was on the wrong message board and was using open source software as my OS. Leave it at that. Got new stuff. It was over.

But people can do really deliberately screwed up things to other people for no reason other than their own pleasure. That's what I was getting at.

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35 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Yeah, I had my administrative rights taken away on my computer and phone and was getting like typed messages on applications to me, songs would start, etc., depending on who was manning it. I was seriously confused. Don't want to dwell on it too much. I was on the wrong message board and was using open source software as my OS. Leave it at that. Got new stuff. It was over.

But people can do really deliberately screwed up things to other people for no reason other than their own pleasure. That's what I was getting at.

That sounds terrible.  People suck.

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11 minutes ago, The Dude said:

our biggest rivals were trying to make us look stupid by stoking Q

Duh.  Wouldn't you do the same if you were running those operations in these countries?

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There are Europeans who got into it.

https://www.politico.eu/article/qanon-europe-coronavirus-protests/

Soooo odd.  It's such an American conspiracy theory, it really shouldn't be on the radar of someone from Italy, why would they care if the Deep State is harvesting blood from children to keep Tom Hanks and BIll Maher young looking?

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In France, the Yellow Jacket movement has embraced the American movement. In Italy, backers hail from the anti-vaccine community. In Britain, adherents draw from Brexit followers.

Probably is excellent evidence that algorithms are pushing all these people together.

It's mildly reassuring that people from other countries have their fair share of suckers.  

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19 hours ago, Maurile Tremblay said:

Sure, but wait till you hear about all the people who believe in astrology, or that carbohydrates are uniquely unhealthy, or that being an Amway distributor is a promising thing to get in on, or the "Law of Attraction" in The Secret, or Christianity.

A huge percentage of people believe something epistemically vacuous. That's a common feature of human cognition.

We can't be experts about everything ourselves, so we have to rely on information we get from others, which leaves us vulnerable to being manipulated.

"Epistemically vacuous" is my new favorite phrase and should be officially added as the next historical epoch. BCE, CE, EV.

Also, I have found my FF team name for next season. Thanks, Maurile!

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20 hours ago, Osaurus said:

I’m bumping this thread bc a lot of recent posts in other threads should probably be here.

Technically, "Qanon" is a separate conspiracy from "The Big Lie", but it does seem like there's a large overlap.

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Fifteen percent of Americans agreed with the statement “the government, media, and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation.”

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-hard-to-gauge-support-for-qanon/

So just shy of 4x the lizardman constant.

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