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#QAnon (1 Viewer)
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massraider
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Thunderlips
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Sure.
1) People who believe everything they read on the internet.
2) People who know that people believe everything they read on the internet and use that to their advantage.
3) The Republican Party; particularly Trump....who embraced the Q narrative during the election year.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Remember right after the 6th how many people, including chuck shumer, referred to it as inciting an erection? I feel like I can laugh about that a little now.
As to your comment, were there a lot of evangelicals inside the Capitol? Seems like a weird place to try to raise Jesus.
The Commish
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massraider
Footballguy
Mike Pompeo posted a pic that included a chess board, and it was an exciting day for Anons.
https://twitter.com/dappergander/status/1381670814492336129
Following along with some of their logic is very difficult.
https://twitter.com/dappergander/status/1381670814492336129
Following along with some of their logic is very difficult.
Insomniac
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the moops
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joffer
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Insomniac
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Leroy Hoard
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People giving tweet-length explanations about why they like Q.
https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968
Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.
https://twitter.com/OficialPatriot/status/1296527185143123968
Good stuff. Trusting the wrong people doesn't make you evil or dumb. Victims of misinformation are generally good people doing their best to make sense of a complex world.
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-jb-
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Hopefully these same folks watch the documentary and do some self-reflection.
Sea Duck
Footballguy
Your post reminds me of some of the language that I've seen from Q or from various cult leaders -- i.e., telling potential initiates that they're good people, that they've been the victim of misinformation, that they trusted the wrong people, that they're not dumb, etc.
So, my takeaway from your post is that the best way to get people out of a cult is to use some of the same tactics that got them into the cult in the first place. But if that's the case, then doesn't it pose an ethical dilemma? Should we be using manipulative language to sway vulnerable people, even if we're doing it for good reasons instead of bad ones?
massraider
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It's fair to question where any of their critical thinking skills went. OK, they believed a bunch of dumb stuff from Q. Fine.
Why is this still happening? https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1383706975058288646
Lin Wood out here giving revivalist speeches about Q.
Clearly Trump is not mas-arresting famous pedophiles. There are no 100,000 sealed indictments. Clearly this was a LARP on a racist, nasty porn imageboard.
Yeah, there are a bunch of good-hearted people. Who are unwilling to consider that they got suckered.
Sure, but wait till you hear about all the people who believe in astrology, or that carbohydrates are uniquely unhealthy, or that being an Amway distributor is a promising thing to get in on, or the "Law of Attraction" in The Secret, or Christianity.
A huge percentage of people believe something epistemically vacuous. That's a common feature of human cognition.
We can't be experts about everything ourselves, so we have to rely on information we get from others, which leaves us vulnerable to being manipulated.
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rockaction
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How sad this is. I was once hacked by some guys in a typical 4chan/8chan thing and they altered my reality by doing really weird stuff with my digital devices. No fun. I resent Q using otherwise decent yet credulous people as tools for their own amusement. This was serious stuff with serious ramifications for everybody. I don't get that trip.
I don't sympathize as much with them as Maurile does, and I think that totally excusing the prey because they're "epistemically inane" like everyone else trots a little too close to relativism, but I can relate to a warped reality for a time and the confusion inherent when somebody plays games like this on the susceptible. It's low-grade and low-rent for the high stakes of ####s and giggles? Uncool.
As for what drives people to believe this, imagine a profound inequality of conditions mixed with a lack of transparency in society and government, driven by a mendacious and sensationalistic media, and that's where you can see the issues fomenting that are inherent in something like this, inherent in all conspiracy theories, really.
I don't sympathize as much with them as Maurile does, and I think that totally excusing the prey because they're "epistemically inane" like everyone else trots a little too close to relativism, but I can relate to a warped reality for a time and the confusion inherent when somebody plays games like this on the susceptible. It's low-grade and low-rent for the high stakes of ####s and giggles? Uncool.
As for what drives people to believe this, imagine a profound inequality of conditions mixed with a lack of transparency in society and government, driven by a mendacious and sensationalistic media, and that's where you can see the issues fomenting that are inherent in something like this, inherent in all conspiracy theories, really.
The Z Machine
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timschochet
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Frankly I think they have a little more culpability than this. Yes they’re good people (generally), yes they’re trying to make sense of it all, but they’re not behaving good in this instance. They’re looking for others to blame, and they’re deliberately choosing to accept explanations that justify their preheld beliefs.
massraider
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I think they have more culpability NOW.
No one is going to prove that astrology isn't real.
But it has NOW been proven that there are no mass arrests, and if Trump is taking down a pedophile cabal, why is he just trudging around Mar-a-Lago, posing for photos with his creepy thumbs up?
Remember, part of the QAnon dogma was that Mueller was secretly working with Trump to take these people down.
At some point, these people need to recognize they've been bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray.
No one is going to prove that astrology isn't real.
But it has NOW been proven that there are no mass arrests, and if Trump is taking down a pedophile cabal, why is he just trudging around Mar-a-Lago, posing for photos with his creepy thumbs up?
Remember, part of the QAnon dogma was that Mueller was secretly working with Trump to take these people down.
At some point, these people need to recognize they've been bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I had my administrative rights taken away on my computer and phone and was getting like typed messages on applications to me, songs would start, etc., depending on who was manning it. I was seriously confused. Don't want to dwell on it too much. I was on the wrong message board and was using open source software as my OS. Leave it at that. Got new stuff. It was over.
But people can do really deliberately screwed up things to other people for no reason other than their own pleasure. That's what I was getting at.
The Z Machine
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The Z Machine
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Duh. Wouldn't you do the same if you were running those operations in these countries?
massraider
Footballguy
There are Europeans who got into it.
https://www.politico.eu/article/qanon-europe-coronavirus-protests/
Soooo odd. It's such an American conspiracy theory, it really shouldn't be on the radar of someone from Italy, why would they care if the Deep State is harvesting blood from children to keep Tom Hanks and BIll Maher young looking?
From the above article:
It's mildly reassuring that people from other countries have their fair share of suckers.
https://www.politico.eu/article/qanon-europe-coronavirus-protests/
Soooo odd. It's such an American conspiracy theory, it really shouldn't be on the radar of someone from Italy, why would they care if the Deep State is harvesting blood from children to keep Tom Hanks and BIll Maher young looking?
From the above article:
Probably is excellent evidence that algorithms are pushing all these people together.
It's mildly reassuring that people from other countries have their fair share of suckers.
Herb
Footballguy
"Epistemically vacuous" is my new favorite phrase and should be officially added as the next historical epoch. BCE, CE, EV.
Also, I have found my FF team name for next season. Thanks, Maurile!
Grace Under Pressure
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Sea Duck
Footballguy
Technically, "Qanon" is a separate conspiracy from "The Big Lie", but it does seem like there's a large overlap.
I saw this thread on Twitter and thought it seemed helpful so I was going to share it here...
https://twitter.com/OkieSpaceQueen/status/1402243921560883202
But then down in the comments there was this:
https://twitter.com/OkieSpaceQueen/status/1402307857643716611
So never mind.
https://twitter.com/OkieSpaceQueen/status/1402243921560883202
But then down in the comments there was this:
https://twitter.com/OkieSpaceQueen/status/1402307857643716611
So never mind.
The Commish
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The Commish
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Sea Duck
Footballguy
Fifteen percent of Americans agreed with the statement “the government, media, and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation.”
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-hard-to-gauge-support-for-qanon/
So just shy of 4x the lizardman constant.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-hard-to-gauge-support-for-qanon/
So just shy of 4x the lizardman constant.
QAnon Supporters Say Cicada Landing on Biden's Neck Is Proof Plan Is Working
https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-supporters-joe-biden-cicada-neck-shows-plan-working-1599401
It must be a lot of work to be this gullible
https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-supporters-joe-biden-cicada-neck-shows-plan-working-1599401
It must be a lot of work to be this gullible
General Malaise
Footballguy
It's hard to understand people falling for this stuff but then National Enquirer and tabloids like them have been popular for decades selling papers to gullible folks who enjoy reading unbelievable stories - some of them probably believed the stories as well. No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people
It's funny you bring this up because i was in Costco yesterday and some lady was picking up a national enquirer to buy and i genuinely wanted to ask her why? From a purely intellectual level I'm just curious about what has happened to these people.
Mile High
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Today I Learned that Costco sells the National Enquirer - I'm there 1-2 times a week and have never noticed.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
The Commish
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Herb
Footballguy
I'm more inclined to believe in the Lizard People. Seems more plausible, honestly.
rockaction
Footballguy
National Enquirer broke the John Edwards story among a few other political ones that destroyed some careers.
