Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Thread

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Shapiro has offered her $10,000 to her campaign or the charity of her choice to come on to his show for an hour to discuss political topics.  My guess is that she refuses, but in the event she accepts, not only would he wipe the floor with her but it would be very entertaining.

 

Edited to put the "t" in event, lol.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by JohnnyU

[Dickies 9,331]

I hope she takes him up on it.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, Dickies said:

I hope she takes him up on it.

He would slaughter her.  No way she takes him up on it.

[[scooter] 14,071]

Donald Trump offered to debate Bernie Sanders if the networks donated $15 million to charity.

Sanders agreed to the debate and then Trump backed down.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, [scooter] said:

Donald Trump offered to debate Bernie Sanders if the networks donated $15 million to charity.

Sanders agreed to the debate and then Trump backed down.

What does that have to do with Ben Shapiro?  I guarantee most do not want to debate him, let alone her.

[[scooter] 14,071]

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

He would slaughter her.  No way she takes him up on it.

Right. Just like all those debates on YouTube where a creationist "slaughters" a scientist, and then when you click on the link, all you see is a scientist speaking in calm, rational tones, followed by the creationist screaming "TORNADO IN A JUNKYARD! SCOREBOARD BABY! PWNED!"

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

He’s more than welcome to spend that $10,000 to rent a place in her district and run for Congress. Then he could debate her a bunch of times, and with actual stakes.  

Probably should ask yourself why he’s doing this instead.  

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Probably should ask yourself why he’s doing this instead.  

Because he knows he can make her look like an idiot.  Oh wait, she does that very well by herself.

[[scooter] 14,071]

Just now, JohnnyU said:

2 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

Probably should ask yourself why he’s doing this instead.  

Because he knows he can make her look like an idiot.  Oh wait, she does that very well by herself.

That's a pretty clever line, you should submit it to Shapiro so he can use it in the debate.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, [scooter] said:

That's a pretty clever line, you should submit it to Shapiro so he can use it in the debate.

That makes no sense.

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Just now, JohnnyU said:

1 minute ago, [scooter] said:

That's a pretty clever line, you should submit it to Shapiro so he can use it in the debate.

That makes no sense.

my link

[JohnnyU 3,933]

2 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

my link

Well, that makes even less sense.  Shapiro would destroy donkey mouth and you know it.  That's the reason for these nonsensical posts.  The left way is to deflect. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by JohnnyU

[Koya 12,081]

At least we are rooting for an informed and informative debate whereby we might find common ground and solutions to our nations need in its most trying time during most of our lifetimes - would be a shame to just see people choosing sides and looking forward to someone wiping the floor with their opponent as if we are just rooting for teams (and not USA! by any stretch)

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

Just now, JohnnyU said:

Because he knows he can make her look like an idiot.  Oh wait, she does that very well by herself.

If that’s the case he can do what I said.  

He’s doing this instead because he knows she can’t say yes or every dog-whistling idiot with a fan base would feel like they could buy their way onto the stage with her or get the free publicity by insulting her double standard if she refuses. He’s literally trying to buy his way onto a stage he’s too weak or scared to earn by, you know, actually being a candidate. 

And of course if she says no she’s looks like she’s scared and he still gets his publicity except for free.

It’s a pathically transparent move that he knows he can get away with because his audience isn’t smart enough to see through it. 

[Koya 12,081]

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

Well, that makes even less sense.  Shapiro would destroy donkey mouth and you know it.  That's the reason for these nonsensical posts.

Who is donkey mouth and why is there a need to use such juvenile and ugly pejoratives?

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, TobiasFunke said:

And of course if she says no she’s looks like she’s scared 

 

You got that right.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, Koya said:

Who is donkey mouth and why is there a need to use such juvenile and ugly pejoratives?

Ok, you got me there.  

[Dickies 9,331]

11 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

Right. Just like all those debates on YouTube where a creationist "slaughters" a scientist, and then when you click on the link, all you see is a scientist speaking in calm, rational tones, followed by the creationist screaming "TORNADO IN A JUNKYARD! SCOREBOARD BABY! PWNED!"

I'm not too well-versed in Ben Shapiro, but from what I've seen he's not your Tucker Carlson (ask a question and immediately yell over the other person's answer) type.  

[Dinsy Ejotuz 12,882]

23 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Shapiro has offered her $10,000 to her campaign or the charity of her choice to come on to his show for an hour to discuss political topics.  My guess is that she refuses, but in the event she accepts, not only would he wipe the floor with her but it would be very entertaining.

 

Edited to put the "t" in event, lol.

Interesting he singled her out.  Why would that be?  She's probably not even bottom-half of the House in terms of how she'd hold up.

Edited August 9, 2018 by Dinsy Ejotuz

[Dickies 9,331]

3 minutes ago, Koya said:

Who is donkey mouth and why is there a need to use such juvenile and ugly pejoratives?

We need to keep the discussion civil......

[JohnnyU 3,933]

1 minute ago, Dinsy Ejotuz said:

Interesting he singled her out.  Why would that be?  She's probably not even bottom-half of the House in terms of how she'd hold up.

My guess is that he knows he make a socialist look silly.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, Dickies said:

We need to keep the discussion civil......

 

Just now, Dickies said:

We need to keep the discussion civil......

You're right and I apologize for calling her donkey mouth.  Is "wild eyes" OK?

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

Just now, JohnnyU said:

My guess is that he knows he make a socialist look silly.

Still waiting for you to explain why he doesn’t rent a cheap apartment andrun for Congress in her district so he can debate her with actual stakes.  Any time now ...

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, TobiasFunke said:

Still waiting for you to explain why he doesn’t rent a cheap apartment andrun for Congress in her district so he can debate her with actual stakes.  Any time now ...

I don't think Shapiro needs to run for Congress to debate this women.  Having said that, I do believe he will run for office in the future. 

[Koya 12,081]

7 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Ok, you got me there.  

It's ugly enough here - your a new voice, it's refreshing to see, but more of the same won't help anyone, GB.

[joffer 12,265]

sometimes they jump right into the boat

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

Just now, JohnnyU said:

I don't think Shapiro needs to run for Congress to debate this women.  Having said that, I do believe he will run for office in the future. 

He doesnt need to do anything.  But if he wants to try to convince people that his ideas are better than hers he should do it the normal way instead of this pathetic, cowardly, transparent publicity move that all but the dumbest people in America can see right through.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, Koya said:

It's ugly enough here - your a new voice, it's refreshing to see, but more of the same won't help anyone, GB.

I agree.  Calling her "Donkey mouth" is unnecessary because she fails on her own.  I really don't need to do that and I apologize. 

[Koya 12,081]

4 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

My guess is that he knows he make a socialist look silly.

Right now far more socialist countries than ours are doing a lot better job serving the needs of their people.  And I'm a libertarian saying that. 

Outcomes matter; and the outcome for far too many here in the US, from education to healthcare to safety and security to earning a decent wage are atrocious and we should be collectively ashamed.

[Koya 12,081]

Just now, JohnnyU said:

I agree.  Calling her "Donkey mouth" is unnecessary because she fails on her own.  I really don't need to do that and I apologize. 

Appreciated.  

[JohnnyU 3,933]

1 minute ago, TobiasFunke said:

He doesnt need to do anything.  But if he wants to try to convince people that his ideas are better than hers he should do it the normal way instead of this pathetic, cowardly, transparent publicity move that all but the dumbest people in America can see right through.

All he wants to do is talk on his show.  I don't see the harm in that, but I do believe she will decline.

[[scooter] 14,071]

14 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Shapiro would destroy donkey mouth and you know it.

Just curious: did you call her "donkey mouth" because you're a racist, or did you call her "donkey mouth" because you're a sexist, or did you call her "donkey mouth" because you've got compromising pictures of FBG staff? Or all of the above?

[Dickies 9,331]

5 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

 

You're right and I apologize for calling her donkey mouth.  Is "wild eyes" OK?

Instead of making fun of her for her looks (which is strange because she is pretty) let's focus on the issues.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

1 minute ago, Koya said:

Right now far more socialist countries than ours are doing a lot better job serving the needs of their people.  And I'm a libertarian saying that. 

 

I'll stop you right there.  No Socialist attempt has ever succeeded. 

[KarmaPolice 15,952]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

All he wants to do is talk on his show. .

I listen to his show, and we both know this isn't the case. 

[JohnnyU 3,933]

1 minute ago, Dickies said:

Instead of making fun of her for her looks (which is strange because she is pretty) let's focus on the issues.

How many times do I have to apologize for call her donkey mouth?

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, KarmaPolice said:

I listen to his show, and we both know this isn't the case. 

Huh?  I just listened to him say he would love to debate her - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/09/ben-shapiro-offers-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-10000-to-debate-her-democratic-socialist-beliefs.html

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

All he wants to do is talk on his show.  I don't see the harm in that, but I do believe she will decline.

Mmm hmm.

Pretty obvious who the coward is here, and it’s not the person who ran for public office at 28 and is now being baited by pubiclity-seeking right wing talking heads.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

2 minutes ago, TobiasFunke said:

Mmm hmm.

Pretty obvious who the coward is here, and it’s not the person who ran for public office at 28 and is now being baited by pubiclity-seeking right wing talking heads.

Explain?  Again, that makes no sense.  If she really believes in the BS she spews then debate it with Shapiro.   Surely a Congress seeking upstart can handle Ben Shapiro.  NOT.

Edited August 9, 2018 by JohnnyU

[Biff84 2,773]

 

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

How many times do I have to apologize for call her donkey mouth?

What was the point in using it in the first place?

[Dickies 9,331]

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

I'll stop you right there.  No Socialist attempt has ever succeeded. 

What do you mean by "socialist attempt"?  There are a number of "socialist" programs in our society that are cherished.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, Biff84 said:

 

What was the point in using it in the first place?

OK, I'll burn myself with my cigar and then put Aspercream on my genitals.  

[KarmaPolice 15,952]

1 minute ago, JohnnyU said:

Huh?  I just listened to him say he would love to debate her - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/09/ben-shapiro-offers-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-10000-to-debate-her-democratic-socialist-beliefs.html

Sure, but on his podcast he was talking about how dumb she and her ideas are and it came across just how much he wanted to humiliate her because he thinks she might be one of the main people that the Dems are propping up.  That is a far cry from saying "he just wants to have a talk on his show". 

[JohnnyU 3,933]

1 minute ago, Dickies said:

What do you mean by "socialist attempt"?  There are a number of "socialist" programs in our society that are cherished.

I won't go into the details that have been discussed at nauseam as to why socialism fails because it's been discussed all over the place in this forum.   If you think it has merit that is on you.

[TobiasFunke 29,546]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Explain?  Again, that makes no sense.  If she really believes in the BS she spews then debate it with Shapiro.   Surely a Congress seeking upstart can handle Ben Shapiro.  NOT.

If he really believes his ideas for the country are superior to hers and he can convince an audience of that he should run for Congress and have a chance to debate her and present his ideas for months on end. Surely a prominent right wing pundit can handle that.

Also saying “not” at the end of your post is the most embarrassing thing you’ve done in this thread. And you insulted her by calling her donkey-mouth, so that’s no small feat.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

2 minutes ago, KarmaPolice said:

Sure, but on his podcast he was talking about how dumb she and her ideas are and it came across just how much he wanted to humiliate her because he thinks she might be one of the main people that the Dems are propping up.  That is a far cry from saying "he just wants to have a talk on his show". 

As far as I know he just wants to debate her on his show.  I think it's a perfect opportunity for both her and Ben.  Let's see how it plays out.

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, TobiasFunke said:

If he really believes his ideas for the country are superior to hers and he can convince an audience of that he should run for Congress and have a chance to debate her and present his ideas for months on end. Surely a prominent right wing pundit can handle that.

Also saying “not” at the end of your post is the most embarrassing thing you’ve done in this thread. And you insulted her by calling her donkey-mouth, so that’s no small feat.

Do you really believe she could hold her own against Shapiro?

[Koya 12,081]

6 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

I'll stop you right there.  No Socialist attempt has ever succeeded. 

I'd conjecture that quality of life, economic prosperity including social equity as a component and personal freedoms are now generally better in any number of democratic-socialist countries than here at home. 

That is not to say a free market and representative democracy can't do better - and while I believe our root system will always, as a reality of greater freedom, have less equality at times, the benefits to greater freedoms imo more than balance that out - but we are not enjoying those freedoms either. 

All I have to point toward is where we rank on life's basics - economic opportunity and overall prosperity, educational attainment and access to education, health outcomes - and we are doing a pretty #### job considering our wealth and resources. 

Instead of blindly rooting for our colours as if just being called the USA means anything, we need to be far more honest and critical and get back to what makes a free market democracy so potentially great.

But we don't have a free market, we are an ever more economic and political oligarchy, and those we serve bears are big interests (from Unions and selfishness on the left to corporations and greed on the right)

[KarmaPolice 15,952]

2 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

As far as I know he just wants to debate her on his show.  I think it's a perfect opportunity for both her and Ben.  Let's see how it plays out.

Do you listen to the podcast?

[JohnnyU 3,933]

Just now, KarmaPolice said:

Do you listen to the podcast?

Of course, that is why I know he would destroy her.  You don't have to worry about that however because not in a million years would she debate Ben Shapiro.