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Hinkley Jr. thinks this kind of obsession is odd.
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Ditkaless Wonders
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timschochet
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But neither Sanders nor Warren is going to be the nominee and I’m pretty sure you know that.jon_mx said:
I don't know that. But regardless, AOC is driving debate topics. The Green New Deal is probably the most discussed topic.
timschochet
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If she’s driving the election, she’s doing it in the same way Sistah Souljah drove the 1992 election. In other words, AOC will be a tool used to make Joe Biden appear reasonable. The Green New Deal will be a tool used to make Joe Biden’s environmental plan appear moderate. I don’t mean be cynical; I’m not saying that anyone is planning all of this, only that this is the way it will work out.
parasaurolophus
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Trying to turn everything into a rich vs poor or white vs brown issue is kind of a big deal I think. Especially in this context. She is literally trying to win over support for her green new deal by making it sound like there is some shady ploy where urban gardens are exclusively growing white people vegetables or that there is even such a thing really.
I mean seriously what is she talking about? It isn't like these things are loaded up with swiss chard and lingonberries and that's it. Do you know how hard it was for me to even think of those two examples? Thought of brussels sprouts but in reading learned that they come from the exact same species as cauliflower and guess what? They are one of the fastest growing crops in mexico. Thought about radishes, but here is actually an annual event known as Noche de Los Rábanos(night of the radishes)
The whole thing is absurd.
ETA: Oh hell, found some data from many years ago where we were importing 99.8% of our swiss chard from mexico. lingonberries seem to be holding strong though.
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Juxtatarot
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I would be really surprised if The Green New Deal becomes a big topic in presidential debates from the Democratic side. Questions on climate change and the environment? Absolutely. The Green New Deal? Probably not.
Mystery Achiever
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Wait til she finds out about Oprah's cauliflower crust pizza.
But, honestly, I would call it more garden variety (no pun intended) political pandering (that I still dislike) more than a particularly big deal.
IvanKaramazov
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I think it's way too early to say that so definitively. Sanders is currently in second place, and Warren is one just a handful of candidates polling above 2%, which puts her at least in the "B" tier. It would not be remotely shocking to see either of them win the nomination.
Mystery Achiever
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Looking at that new Quinnipiac poll, Bernie is polling across ideologies, but Liz looks too reliant on progressives. And whites.
parasaurolophus
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parasaurolophus
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parasaurolophus
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Mystery Achiever
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Hey! I still don't know what to put down mine.
And, on the other, I was 2 minutes in before noticing the date. Amazing.
whoknew
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She questioned Carson today (I think today) about the One Strike Rule and No-Fault Policy. I thought she did a very good job - Link.
I know a lot of people like jon think she is dumb. But she sure seems to do a lot of good questioning in committee (regardless of whether you agree with her position).
I know a lot of people like jon think she is dumb. But she sure seems to do a lot of good questioning in committee (regardless of whether you agree with her position).
timschochet
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He's got pretty much the same limitations as she does. Starting with no black support.
The Commish
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I'm all for poking at the dumb. It's funny not being able to muster a peep regarding Carson and Devos and their level of intelligence and they are cabinet officials. Pretty good illustration of my point above.
It was both spot on and way before it's time.Hey! I still don't know what to put down mine.
And, on the other, I was 2 minutes in before noticing the date. Amazing.
Mario Kart
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She keeps batting one thousand and keeps hitting on all cylinders. It's awesome to see/hear someone like her in our government. If only more people would follow her lead. She is truly a great leader.
Sand
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Don't Noonan
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One of the craziest out of touch things I have ever seen written in the PSF. Is the 3000 page Trump bashing thread not enough for you?The Commish said:At least a couple dozen pages later and my comment is still the same....if we put a tenth of the energy towards scrutinizing Trump's behavior, comments etc that we are in this freshman Congresswoman we'd be a lot better off as a country and Trump probably isn't even in office today....something to think about....nah, who am I kidding
ETA: Turns out just 6-7 pages...point remains. Truly amazing.
parasaurolophus
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The thought of our little discussions on this magic football board being consequential is kind of funny too.One of the craziest out of touch things I have ever seen written in the PSF. Is the 3000 page Trump bashing thread not enough for you?
IC FBGCav
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/21/18634407/2020-primary-democrats-black-voters-poll-blackpac
Your opinion is wrong again Mit. It's like you try to be wrong.
parasaurolophus
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The link in there shows bernie has 14% of the non white vote. That makes tim so wrong that he is trying to be wrong?
IvanKaramazov
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The story that you posted -- but obviously didn't read very carefully -- links to the following Washington Post article that pretty much supports Tim's position:
timschochet
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The numbers could change- we haven’t had the debates obviously. And there are significant differences between southern and northern blacks.
But modern history suggests that southern blacks, who are the single most important bloc in terms of deciding who the Democratic nominee will be, are traditionally conservative, pro-establishment. That doesn’t bode well for Sanders or Warren (or Buttigieg either for different reasons.)
The Commish said:At least a couple dozen pages later and my comment is still the same....if we put a tenth of the energy towards scrutinizing Trump's behavior, comments etc that we are in this freshman Congresswoman we'd be a lot better off as a country and Trump probably isn't even in office today....something to think about....nah, who am I kidding
ETA: Turns out just 6-7 pages...point remains. Truly amazing.
1/10th of the amount of time. Yeah I think we got that covered by a long shot. lol
parasaurolophus
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Maybe cav was trying to be wrong? Although maybe he was actually talking about some guy named Mit.
Cowboysfan8
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Fair & Balanced
There is a saying that something is all pink on the inside but I forget what it is right now.
The Commish
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It's not close. Sure there's a good effort to keep up, but the quantity of things in sheer volume would lend it to dozens of threads with thousands of pages each if we scrutinized all of Trump's statements/positions/actions to the level that's going on in here....I thought dedicating a tenth was a stretch given the quantity that really should be covered
As it is today we pick and choose the absurdity de jour with Trump and his administration....it was a mere suggestion that this be supplemented by those focused on AOC with this sort of vigor to perhaps shift focus off a freshman congresswoman just cutting her teeth in politics towards those actually driving the bus....even I know that's a big ask. I mean, clearly we need to focus on AOC's comments around cauliflower in lieu of the comments Devos made around lack of school choice being like that of Nazi Germany or Carson as HUD secretary not knowing what an REO was. They are just cabinet members in the most dysfunctional cabinet ever.
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Mario Kart
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I’m on mobile but we used to be able to check how many times posters posted in a thread. It’d be curious to see the amount of posts / obsession some posters have over AOC. An effective leader, like AOC, receives scorn while an ineffective leader, like Trump, receives praise. Check the post counts.
timschochet
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Well what do you expect? Colin Kaepernick isn’t in the news these days. Where else are these guys going to hide out?
parasaurolophus
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So would one trump thread with 1450 pages end this dumb tangent?It's not close. Sure there's a good effort to keep up, but the quantity of things in sheer volume would lend it to dozens of threads with thousands of pages each if we scrutinized all of Trump's statements/positions/actions to the level that's going on in here....I thought dedicating a tenth was a stretch given the quantity that really should be covered
The Commish
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That's one of dozens of topics. Feel free not participate in the "dumb tangent" (which is really just an observation of absurdity if we're being honest here) and get back to discussing how dumb AOC's comments about cauliflower are though....clearly this needs to be resolved! I don't want to be responsible for getting in the way of that meeting of the minds.
Ramblin Wreck
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Wait. How many people on this forum praise trump? You guys reading same threads I do?
Ramblin Wreck
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Says the guy posting here starting before 6am many days and going all day every day.
parasaurolophus
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Ok cool. So you are ok with us discussing AOC in the AOC thread? Great.
Btw still waiting on that book title that shows how easy it is for somebody earning 450k a year to pay the same rate as somebody earning 150k a year. That was one of the great takeaways i got from a trump thread. Tax advice tuesdays with commish.
The Commish
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I don't really know what you're talking about, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say your reading comprehension let you down again. I'll go back and read though
Jayrod
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To be fair, Trump is a "freshman" as well...just cutting his teeth.It's not close. Sure there's a good effort to keep up, but the quantity of things in sheer volume would lend it to dozens of threads with thousands of pages each if we scrutinized all of Trump's statements/positions/actions to the level that's going on in here....I thought dedicating a tenth was a stretch given the quantity that really should be covered
As it is today we pick and choose the absurdity de jour with Trump and his administration....it was a mere suggestion that this be supplemented by those focused on AOC with this sort of vigor to perhaps shift focus off a freshman congresswoman just cutting her teeth in politics towards those actually driving the bus....even I know that's a big ask. I mean, clearly we need to focus on AOC's comments around cauliflower in lieu of the comments Devos made around lack of school choice being like that of Nazi Germany or Carson as HUD secretary not knowing what an REO was. They are just cabinet members in the most dysfunctional cabinet ever.
timschochet
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So now you’re keeping track of when I post?
Did you used to be in a band called Animotion?
The Commish
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And a President who's doing real damage as we speak and has appointed people to cabinet positions who are doing real damage.
Cowboysfan8
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and people ##### about him on here absolutely non-stop everyday all day what's your point?
When she says something stupid someone is allowed to point and laugh
The Commish
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Two fold:
1. It's funny to see the priorities of some.
2. There's more work to be done.
As I've said, I am good with the 'point and laugh'....several have gone well passed that to obsession and I just don't get it especially when those same people remain relatively silent on more pressing problems. I just don't get it
Anyway....this is my last post on this for a bit....back to solving the armageddon that is the cauliflower conundrum.
Jayrod
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I agree, and people should wake up and understand why he was elected and is still rabidly supported. And "racism/sexism" is not the correct answer, no matter how badly liberals want it to be.
AOC is basically a microcosm of the very system that lead to Trump. If the media keeps parading her out there as the gold standard and we will get another 4 years of this madness.
You don't need to count posts. Number of Trump threads (and pages) out number threads about AOC by more than a factor of 10, let alone 1/10th.
Not sure why you would want to pick on a particular poster, but, turn the tables around and every single poster on the left would out number in Trump posts than AOC by more than a factor of 10. I think Commish had a point to make, but, his horrible math ruined it.
1- Agree, it's weird to post everyday obsessively about Trump. Even weirder you think it needs to happen more.Two fold:
1. It's funny to see the priorities of some.
2. There's more work to be done.
As I've said, I am good with the 'point and laugh'....several have gone well passed that to obsession and I just don't get it especially when those same people remain relatively silent on more pressing problems. I just don't get it
2- #1 isn't accomplishing anything so if that's what you're doing to get "work" done, well, you will never be done.
When the same few people dominate every thread its not keeping track, it's hard to avoid.
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