Ray Barboni
Footballguy
With a capable scheme, and a non washed QB ... Sutton could absolutely be a true #1
neither of those things are happening this year. So, it doesn’t matter hahaha.
Back to the Fant talk though.
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neither of those things are happening this year. So, it doesn’t matter hahaha.
Back to the Fant talk though.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
I think that’s where I will never agree because I have never been a believer in Sutton. He didn’t do it at SMU and he certainly won’t do it in the NFL.With a capable scheme, and a non washed QB ... Sutton could absolutely be a true #1
neither of those things are happening this year. So, it doesn’t matter hahaha.
Back to the Fant talk though.
I yield,
Tex
The Frankman
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Max Power
Footballguy
I feel like I should trade him now. He was terrible on prime time.
I stuck with Dez Bryant after a multiple drop prime time game and that was a win.
I just dont think Fant is a guy to come around. He may be a hold because he was a late 1st early 2nd anyway.
Offered him for Edelman in dynasty.
I stuck with Dez Bryant after a multiple drop prime time game and that was a win.
I just dont think Fant is a guy to come around. He may be a hold because he was a late 1st early 2nd anyway.
Offered him for Edelman in dynasty.
daveR
Footballguy
Sarlakticacid
Footballguy
Noah Fantastic
Jacksonke1
Footballguy
Fant is becoming a target hog, although in part likely due to necessity.
He was wide open in the end zone on one early series when Allen tunnel-vision forced it to a covered receiver and they targeted him a few time at the end. Still looks like he needs some polish but trending in the right way as the season rolls on.
He was wide open in the end zone on one early series when Allen tunnel-vision forced it to a covered receiver and they targeted him a few time at the end. Still looks like he needs some polish but trending in the right way as the season rolls on.
The Frankman
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I've got the exact same decision...but first need to see this week's injury reports.
If Everett plays then Higbee's stock takes a hit plus SF not a good matchup.
If Fant practicing in full by end of week then I might give him the nod. He and Lock have a good connection and if Slay doesn't mail it in he's likely to be draped all over Sutton. Which will leave plenty of targets for Fant vs. a poor Lions LB corps.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I like his talent but IMO either Fant or Sutton won’t be as good in fantasy as you think wit the weapons they added.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
For a rookie who was expected to be unrefined and then got injured during the offseason...he exceeded my expectations. The question is can he show growth this year?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Picked him up in an FFPC (TE premium) Superflex startup back in February at 7.03
I also took Higbee at 7.04
I also took Higbee at 7.04
JohnnyU
Footballguy
They came into the league together and probably will always be compared together. Fant over Hockenson year one. What about year two?
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Friendly advice - he is going to be a monster - picture a hybrid wr/te with less blocking duties and more route running. This is the year to get him, the price only goes up from here.
I think scepticism about Lock is very justified but worrying about the presence of Albert O seems a bit too reactionary to me at this stage. Fant is a first round TE athletic marvel in his own right and he’s just getting started. You don’t stunt that development because of a BFF narrative with a 4th rounder.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Lol. Clearly some people don't follow local camp news too closely...
During training camp so far, Okwuegbunam has been a standout player when the offense gets near pay dirt. He is displaying the skill set that got the Broncos excited about his potential in the pros. Rookie tight ends struggle in the NFL in almost universal fashion, but Okwuegbunam is looking like a player who could buck that trend.
https://1043thefan.com/2089063/how-good-can-albert-okwuegbunam-be-in-2020-for-the-broncos/
“I think he’s the real monster,” Vannett said after practice on Aug. 25. “He’s just so physically gifted. I think the thing with him is he’s kind raw right now, but I don’t say that in a bad way.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/28/denver-broncos-albert-okwuegbunam-could-become-best-tight-end-in-the-nfl/
During training camp so far, Okwuegbunam has been a standout player when the offense gets near pay dirt. He is displaying the skill set that got the Broncos excited about his potential in the pros. Rookie tight ends struggle in the NFL in almost universal fashion, but Okwuegbunam is looking like a player who could buck that trend.
https://1043thefan.com/2089063/how-good-can-albert-okwuegbunam-be-in-2020-for-the-broncos/
“I think he’s the real monster,” Vannett said after practice on Aug. 25. “He’s just so physically gifted. I think the thing with him is he’s kind raw right now, but I don’t say that in a bad way.
https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/28/denver-broncos-albert-okwuegbunam-could-become-best-tight-end-in-the-nfl/
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kutta
Footballguy
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Albert O. was Mackey Award finalist, so not too raw. He left school after his junior season. Elway knew he wasn't going to be a starter right away. That's why he fell to the 4th.kutta said:
He'll get some playing time. More likely this is the beginning of a potential Gronk/Hernandez duo.
But certainly not "closer to not making the roster." Or other implications of being on the team solely as Lock's BFF. He's going to vulture some RZ looks at the very least.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
And BTW other TE's not named Albert O. have been called "raw" in their first training camp....kutta said:
“Noah’s a guy that needs the reps,” quarterback Joe Flacco said. “He’s a raw athlete, he can run, he can jump and he can do all those things… You have to work with him, help him along the way and allow him to make those adjustments. Once he is able to slow it down, that’s when his speed and all those other things that he has naturally given to him will start to show a little bit more.”
https://www.denverpost.com/2019/10/27/noah-fant-broncos-tight-end-speed-bumps/
The Finist
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moleculo
Footballguy
All TEs struggle their rookie year. I wouldn't worry too much about Albert O eating into Fants production in 2020.
I'm big on Fant this year. Top 5 potential, maybe top 3, with 10th round ADP. Here's why:
1. 1st round pedigree.
2. 2nd year player who flashed as a rookie.
3. Young QBs often lean on TE.
4. Sutton & Jeudy will rightfully draw attention.
5. Broncos have emphasized the position on recent years in both the draft and FA.
6. Shurmers offenses have produced good TE numbers in the past. Engram was 7th the past 2 years (per game), Rudolph was 3rd in 2016. Its not a Lock for sure but there is potential here.
I'm big on Fant this year. Top 5 potential, maybe top 3, with 10th round ADP. Here's why:
1. 1st round pedigree.
2. 2nd year player who flashed as a rookie.
3. Young QBs often lean on TE.
4. Sutton & Jeudy will rightfully draw attention.
5. Broncos have emphasized the position on recent years in both the draft and FA.
6. Shurmers offenses have produced good TE numbers in the past. Engram was 7th the past 2 years (per game), Rudolph was 3rd in 2016. Its not a Lock for sure but there is potential here.
moleculo
Footballguy
anyone who says they know is guessing. I've heard a mixed bag from camp - lots of good reviews but overall the defense seems to be winning vs the offense. Of course, the iD is going to be good.
Fant was on a 754-4 pace over the last 8 games, and that was as a rookie in a less TE friendly offense. Evan Engram is a similar type of player as Fant, and he was very good when healthy under Shurmur, with likely similar(and possibly worse) QB play.
Fant was 1 of only 2 TE's with 3+ 40 yard plays last year(Kelce was the other) Fant was also 0-6 on targets inside the endzone, which just screams regression to the mean, so more TD's should be on the way.
Fant is my TE9, and I think he's got as much potential as anyone outside the top-4. For where he is going in drafts, he might be a top value as basically cheaper/more durable Engram.
Fant was 1 of only 2 TE's with 3+ 40 yard plays last year(Kelce was the other) Fant was also 0-6 on targets inside the endzone, which just screams regression to the mean, so more TD's should be on the way.
Fant is my TE9, and I think he's got as much potential as anyone outside the top-4. For where he is going in drafts, he might be a top value as basically cheaper/more durable Engram.
