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I know you’re having a bunch of fun at Montgomery’s expense, but come on. Davis looked good tonight? When? The whole team/game plan was garbage. Robinson was the only bright spot. It is a blessing that they only scored 3 points. They will get this kid much more involved in the near future. They know the have to.
This was the issue with that @Sigmund Bloom brought up, he has great vision, hard to bring down, has a nice juke step at the line of scrimmage & probably has a nose for the end zone, but the athletic qualities for burst and long speed are pretty lacking.
11 touches for 36 yards total says it all. He has no burst, no ability to make people miss, no anything.
yes but 6 of the 11 touches were check-down passes in catch-up mode...
I agree! He is a very capable pass catcher. Trubisky missed him for a TD which would have made his stats look a lot better. By the end of the year he will be on the bench because Montgomery is clearly the more dynamic player. Davis might be a pain in the butt though early in the year. This is why I said I like Montgomery as my number 3 back but I don't quite trust him early on. You never know with rookies. The good news is he looks good to me.
Terrible start for Nagy. I think his play calling has its place but he goes too far sometimes. Calling plays doesn’t alway need to be that hard. Sometimes it’s as simple as a QB sneak on 3rd and 1.
What does 6 touches for 18 yards say? I think GB D gets some credit. That unit looked much improved.
The first play of the game was ridiculous. Embarrassing really. Get good at football first then get cute with the hocus-pocus stuff.
Why make football harder than it needs to be? If you truly have a better team you don’t need to run many gimmick plays, just cram it down their throats.
Montgomery had 7 touches for 45 yards, which is far better than 11 touches for 36 yards.
what should be concerning for Montgomery owners is if this is a system/personnel strategy that Nagy wants to use. He looks good but he may be used to be a better NFL rb than fantasy rb. He has all kinds of hype, but he may just be a piece of the puzzle. That would torpedo his value.
His lack of touches was due to repeated 3-and-outs just like all the Bears offense lack of touches.
Yeah, except for the first down run where he broke 3 tackles you mean?
27 yards came on a designed play for Montgomery where there was no defense in sight.
It's not a bad time to buy if you believe in Montgomery. Chicsgo looks to be doing its best Eagles impression in their backfield based on one game. Might be how itll be, might not. I'd imagine Nagy would change things up if he likes his job, but he finally has "his guys" in Davis and Montgomery.
The main risk in owning Monty is that the bolded may not stop imo. Maybe they're not bad NFL plays but it's terrible for your fantasy players. I don't see Nagy stopping this kinda playcalling all of a sudden, he did random stuff last year too if I'm remembering correctly. I'm afraid it's just a part of his system, or what he does.Yeah, except for the first down run where he broke 3 tackles you mean?
way to stay dedicated to the schtick dude, but at least be honest with an alleged observation.
That was the best run of the night by any of the 3 backs.
So naturally they put Patterson in the backfield on the next play. that’s just bad playcalling.
I agree. He looked very good on his limited touches and made the best catch of the game on a poorly throw ball from a Trubisky (I know that’s redundant). I stated yesterday I thought this would be a RBBC, but I figured Montgomery would lead the way. After last night that seems inevitable to me.
seems volume dependant to me. But that's what he was in college too... his ypc was pretty drab in comparison to other RBs in that class, hes a below average athlete on the sparq, and he had one of the worst created yards between the tackles statistics in the class.
c'mon man, you can't be serious. He ran an actual route and caught the ball on the run, high, & cleanly with his hands 20+ yards downfield. Lots of RBs don't do that. In fact, very few do.I'm with these guys. I fully expected this to start of RBBC, but last night was a positive sign for me. As nice as that catch was, the main reason I see him as a buy is that people looking at the box score will think it is a 3-way RBBC, which was a solid fear before the season. However, Cohen played 46 snaps and only two of them came in the backfield. 36 of his snaps were out of the slot and 8 were out wide. That is awesome news for Montgomery and terrible news for Anthony Miller.
While I admit I was a fan of Davis while at South Carolina, I have not seen anything significant from him to warrant so much involvement. With that said, I think most of it was dump off and game script dictated by GB Def. I think GB dared Trubisky to beat them with his arm and he came up short. Literally, they only gave him short dump off passes and simple screens. CHI did not challenge GB with much long ball efforts. Aside from the 27 yard pass to A Robinson, due to the Def mistake, I think Tribusky let them down and dumped off to Davis as a last ditch effort to avoid a sack or loss on the play. Credit to GB Def / Def Coordinator. Crime for the CHI OC to let it happen
I agree with this also. Those saying Davis looked awful are looking through the lens of being a Montgomery owner. He's a solid veteran back and won't be totally going away. I thought Montgomery showed more as he seems more elusive and stronger with the ball and Davis was more of a straight ahead runner. Now neither looked great - but the Bears o-line did them no favors and one Packer defender admitted post game that the plan was to let Trubisky and beat them through the air in a very insulting type of way towards his (in)ability to do that.
I’ve posted a few times already about the game plan last night, it was head scratching and that’s being nice. They threw the ball 45 times in a game where they were down by four points for most of the game. I read that they threw it 23 straight plays to end the game? That’s the thing that has to change first and foremost. Hard to judge a running game with a script like that. Montgomery had one carry after the first quarter. It was his first career game in the NFL. It’s going to take patience. Hopefully this was a wake up call for the coaching staff, and they find a way to be more balanced as the season goes on. Maybe they should have given their starters some more reps in the preseason.
I know this all depends on Nagy changing his ways but I fully expect to see Montgomery as the main back with Davis spelling him occasionally and Cohen as a change of pace or just split out wide. Montgomery should be getting the majority of the carries. Need Nagy to run the ball more and not rely on Trubisky throwing over 40 times. I hope he makes the correct adjustments to the game plan.
And you never will “see anything special”, because that doesn’t fit your preconceived narrative.
Last night was a masterpiece of lack of preparation, underestimation of an opponent & hubris.
