Kevrunner
Footballguy
A lot of mock drafts had Haskins going to the Giants at pick #6, the Giants took Daniel Jones instead.
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QB Dwayne Haskins - 04.09.2022 - struck by car and killed (4 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, that's exactly what happened. I remember him being mad that his hometown passed on him. But I'm wondering about whereabouts they thought Haskins would be taken if not for the Giants. I just didn't post that because, well, one can't include every thought in one's head, or one would type about 10,000 words.
rockaction
Footballguy
That said, Haskins, I think - think - was projected in the first or early second.
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
You really comparing a guy who was considered a generational talent coming out of college in Manning to Haskins, who started 14 games in his entire college career?
Maybe I should have specified Ohio State, as that’s the main reason I was wary of drafting him. That is simply a system that does not produce successful pro QBs regardless of the gaudy numbers they put up. Go ahead and name the last one to be successful in the pros. I’ll wait.
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No. I’m saying your process is dumb. Judging someone because he succeeded with good players around him is bizarre and nonsense. You seriously think you can identify someone as bad because he played with good players when NFL scouts havent done it ever? That was my point. Peyton caused three WR’s to be drafted way, way higher than they should have gone. It’s like telling me you know if the chicken or egg came first.
amnesiac
beer is good
Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
The only thing dumb here is your insistence on comparing his situation to that of Peyton. Nobody was concerned about potentiality drafting Peyton because Jamal Lewis might have made him look better than he actually was. There is no chicken or the egg analysis here. The guy was a generational talent and 4 year starter. Haskins started 14 games. If you are going for comparisons here, this is about the worst one you could have chosen to make your argument.
My argument, which you of course ignored, was I wouldn’t have drafted Haskins because he came out the of Ohio State system. Urban Meyer’s system hasn’t produced a successful NFL QB despite gaudy numbers. This is a product of the system they run, and yes, also the exceptional surrounding talent featured around the QB. Terry Mclaurin, Parris Campbell, and Dobbins were never considered potential products of Haksins’ success. It is one reason why if the Skins didn’t draft him at 15, it was reported that he was expected to tumble down the draft board. The Skins’ own front office had similar concerns about him and didn’t want to draft the guy, but Dan Snyder forced their hand and made the pick.
amnesiac
beer is good
for the state of Washington.
do you think the Football Team plays in the state of Washington?
amnesiac
beer is good
I would argue that everyone in the NCAA was an inferior talent to the 2019 LSU team.Burrow... Against "inferior talent"?
doeseatplace
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
You could argue that, and there's a strong case that Alabama had an equitable team. His game against bama convinced me that he could be really good. Obviously he might not live up to it, but there's a world of difference between the talent Burrow and Haskins played against.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Seeing if there's as much outrage now that Karama did the exact samething and infected a bunch of players
The Frankman
Footballguy
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Johnny Utah #9
Footballguy
Has he asked for Big Ben’s #7 yet?
Your process is awful, full stop.
The “I don’t like player X because he played for X school or X coach” has been debunked five million times in my over two decades of doing this hobby. Yet, here we still are. You know how much that has to do with anyone’s success in the NFL: zero. Absolutely zero.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
This is why, as a Steelers fan, I'm okay with this signing because there's some talent there. The questions are how much talent amd can it be brought out if he gets his act together and "eliminates distractions." No risk for the Steelers.
I'm actually very happy with the signing. It's right from Al Davis playbook, sign pedigreed player who failed at his first stop and hope you can fix him. Am I confident he's the answer or heir apparent? Not even remotely close but when you don't have the answer or heir apparent you don't leave any stone unturned.
As for his talent I would say he has big time arm talent but before we get into the mental processing side of things his lack of mobility is a dying breed among QB's in today's NFL, Steelers seem to be trying to corner the market on them right now. So overall I see him as merely a good talent but for sure there is some there, more then I've seen with Rudolph.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
She split his lip & knocked his tooth out!
Apparently in a Vegas hotel room. There's a backstory here and I would love to read it, but it's always a sad situation.
Still - gotta wonder if someone gambled too much, hit the strip club when they shouldn't have, etc. If this happened anywhere but Vegas I wouldn't be as curious.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Haskins never has shown great ability to avoid pressure. Pull the plug on this guy's career. If you're an NFL QB and can't keep your house together, how do you expect to run an NFL offense? RIP
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agree about his career, but domestic violence does go both ways, and if she knocked his tooth out & he didn't hit her back, kudos to him.
I'll judge him for his on-field stuff, but in a highly emotionally charged situation like this it's hard to lay judgement on a dude who got caught up in a bad moment with a person who was clearly feeling some feels.
Society tends to see male on female domestic violence differently than female on male, and that's not right. It's all the same thing.
That all said, I still wanna know what set her off.
have seen several reports that she and her friends went to see a show, and he and his friends went to a club without waiting for everyone to go together. guess maybe he likes a little crazy.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Mason Rudolph has had 4 years to show who he is. Dwayne Haskins, ostensibly one play from his 1st game action yesterday, spent warm-ups throwing lousy passes & checking his phone. Ben Roethlisberger may not be who he once was, but there’s a reason he’s your QB, #Steelers fans. link
funny going back in this thread and reading around draft time.
funny going back in this thread and reading around draft time.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
To quote the amazing Geddy Lee, the more the things change, the more they stay the same. Haskins will NEVER be anything in the NFL. He's too immature to ever make it in the league. He hasn't changed a bit since he was acting like an idiot in Washington.
