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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1. (4 Viewers)
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krista4
Footballguy
Makes me sad to think how much better some of both George’s and John’s songs could have been if John had let George in more.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Stuff like this may fly at places like FFToday, but we like to work clean here. If you can't handle that maybe this isn't the board for you.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
And, actually, so many of George's songs are short, though dense, and often feel unfinished to the extent that it seems the others might have been hands-off so not to throw shade on his efforts when, if he'd got the treatment John & Paul gave each other, we might have more forceful, rounded product from him.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I would challenge Tim to a fistfight at a charity golf event, but that has already been attempted and it didn’t stop him.
krista4
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
I have to believe you are kidding, but even if you are ...make up a story and share.
krista4
Footballguy
It happened in a timdraft, but it was actually Mr. krista who received the challenge, from a poster called TidesofWar. tim did a riff on it earlier in this thread in response to a Mr. krista post, too.
Leroy Hoard
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
95. You Really Got a Hold On Me (With the Beatles, 1963)
Beatles version: Spotify Beatles
Hot take alert! I think the Beatles did a better version of this song than the original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles (the title of which the Beatles accidentally changed). Oh no, you di'nt.
:ducksfromUruk'sshoe:
Seems I start every description at this point with "I love this song." I love this song! It's one of the instances where the lyrics make a huge positive difference to me. What human hasn't experienced the feeling of wanting to get over a love and not being able to shake it? Even when we know the person is no good, or at least no good for us:
I don't like you, but I love you
Seems that I'm always thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh, you treat me badly
I love you madly
You've really got a hold on me
We're trying to resist but can't:
I don't want you, but I need you
Don't want to kiss you but I need you
Oh, oh, oh, you do me wrong now
My love is strong now
You've really got a hold on me
And finally we just give in:
I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me
And not just give in, but feel that desire even more strongly:
Tighter
Tighter
The reason I prefer the Beatles version is that John really sinks into the desperation of these lyrics. Smokey sounded gentle and sweet when he sang it. John sounds like he's about to explode from the torture of it all, especially the urgency he imbues in the word "tighter." It's almost uncomfortable to listen to, and that's why I love it.
The band sang another version of the song during the Let It Be sessions, but I don't find John's vocal as good on that one.
Mr. krista: "He plays right behind the beat. I think they made that into an aesthetic. I like the Miracles version a little better, but I like how the Beatles really own it."
Beatles version: Spotify Beatles
Hot take alert! I think the Beatles did a better version of this song than the original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles (the title of which the Beatles accidentally changed). Oh no, you di'nt.
:ducksfromUruk'sshoe:
Seems I start every description at this point with "I love this song." I love this song! It's one of the instances where the lyrics make a huge positive difference to me. What human hasn't experienced the feeling of wanting to get over a love and not being able to shake it? Even when we know the person is no good, or at least no good for us:
I don't like you, but I love you
Seems that I'm always thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh, you treat me badly
I love you madly
You've really got a hold on me
We're trying to resist but can't:
I don't want you, but I need you
Don't want to kiss you but I need you
Oh, oh, oh, you do me wrong now
My love is strong now
You've really got a hold on me
And finally we just give in:
I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me
And not just give in, but feel that desire even more strongly:
Tighter
Tighter
The reason I prefer the Beatles version is that John really sinks into the desperation of these lyrics. Smokey sounded gentle and sweet when he sang it. John sounds like he's about to explode from the torture of it all, especially the urgency he imbues in the word "tighter." It's almost uncomfortable to listen to, and that's why I love it.
The band sang another version of the song during the Let It Be sessions, but I don't find John's vocal as good on that one.
Mr. krista: "He plays right behind the beat. I think they made that into an aesthetic. I like the Miracles version a little better, but I like how the Beatles really own it."
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Zegras11
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
Forgot to mention that coincidentally the threats came after Mr. krista, the judge for the "best album" part of the draft, ranked Sgt. Pepper's too low in that guy's opinion. I think Mr. krista might have had "Revolver" overall #1, but probably had a Stooges, Ramones, and Charles Mingus record, among others, above Pepper's.
It had to have been ~10 years ago or more because we were still living in Chicago at the time, and moved from there in late 2009. So you could find it all just by going through the last 10-11 years of tim's posts. Simple enough.
zamboni
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
You wouldn't.
ETA: OK -- yellow alert cancelled.
Also, despite the fact you and Mr. K hate Paul, we're actually still pretty sympatico on this stuff overall. Really only maybe 3-4 songs I care about being so low.
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krista4
Footballguy
94. Cry Baby Cry (White Album, 1968)
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
Like "Good Morning Good Morning," this John song might have been inspired in part by an ad, specifically some words he thought he'd caught: "Cry baby cry; make your mother buy." This song has a nice spooky feel to it; John's voice has a slight echo that, along with his dry and straightforward delivery, makes it sound chilling to me. Paul's harmonies near the very end add to the eeriness, George's nifty guitar parts contribute to the tension, and the descending chords on the verses give a nice sense of menace. The lyrics seem like a nursery rhyme and owe a debt to "Sing a Song of Sixpence" along with Lewis Carroll, and when John sings in a nearly childlike fashion in parts, it just increases how weird this song feels. The last ~30 seconds, the "can you take me back" part by Paul, were not originally meant to be part of this song, but were from some improvisations during the recording of "I Will." But that "song" didn't receive any separate mention on the album and by now is just considered part of this one. In any case, my favorite part is when this song leads into that latter one; they actually seem to be meant to go together as the Paul song has a similar ghostly feel to it.
Not-so-fun fact: The song was first rehearsed the same day that "Ob-La-Di" was finished, the tension from all the battles over that song carrying over to the recordings of this one that night, with Geoff Emerick deciding then and there that he wouldn't be finishing this song. The next day, he quit, and the recording of this song was begun anew.
Mr. krista: "It’s a great pop song. There’s a lot of songs called cry baby or baby cry or baby baby cry cry, and I think I like them all. There’s the Janis Joplin song called Cry Baby… and there’s this…"
Suggested cover: I guess I'm going to end up with at least three covers listed from Steve Earle, since there's another one later that I know I'll be using. Oh well; I can't find any others I like better than this.
Beatles version: Spotify YouTube
Like "Good Morning Good Morning," this John song might have been inspired in part by an ad, specifically some words he thought he'd caught: "Cry baby cry; make your mother buy." This song has a nice spooky feel to it; John's voice has a slight echo that, along with his dry and straightforward delivery, makes it sound chilling to me. Paul's harmonies near the very end add to the eeriness, George's nifty guitar parts contribute to the tension, and the descending chords on the verses give a nice sense of menace. The lyrics seem like a nursery rhyme and owe a debt to "Sing a Song of Sixpence" along with Lewis Carroll, and when John sings in a nearly childlike fashion in parts, it just increases how weird this song feels. The last ~30 seconds, the "can you take me back" part by Paul, were not originally meant to be part of this song, but were from some improvisations during the recording of "I Will." But that "song" didn't receive any separate mention on the album and by now is just considered part of this one. In any case, my favorite part is when this song leads into that latter one; they actually seem to be meant to go together as the Paul song has a similar ghostly feel to it.
Not-so-fun fact: The song was first rehearsed the same day that "Ob-La-Di" was finished, the tension from all the battles over that song carrying over to the recordings of this one that night, with Geoff Emerick deciding then and there that he wouldn't be finishing this song. The next day, he quit, and the recording of this song was begun anew.
Mr. krista: "It’s a great pop song. There’s a lot of songs called cry baby or baby cry or baby baby cry cry, and I think I like them all. There’s the Janis Joplin song called Cry Baby… and there’s this…"
Suggested cover: I guess I'm going to end up with at least three covers listed from Steve Earle, since there's another one later that I know I'll be using. Oh well; I can't find any others I like better than this.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I’m not kidding that when posting that I thought, “Well at least Binky will be happy it’s not a George song.”
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
I think krista and I are far apart on the White Album “filler”
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
What the heck - I could've sworn it was Tim. I'm pretty sure he came at Tim in that thread as well, but maybe with slightly different context.
It was one of those things you read through and think "This can't possibly be real, can it?"
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I disagree
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
krista4
Footballguy
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Zegras11
Footballguy
Crap, I went out drinking tonight and just got home hoping for some more songs. :squeelslikeapig:
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Pardon me for the repeat, but this teenage girl wowed me onto the Ringo is great plane, even (especially) the song Come Together
ETA: The takeaway here is, it's easy to overlook the individual contributions when you're lazy.
ETA: The takeaway here is, it's easy to overlook the individual contributions when you're lazy.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Yes. Most likely just gobbledy#### from John but some Beatles fans believe that verse is referring to his addiction to heroin.shuke said:
ETA: I didn't realize that Gee-oh-oh-kay would be filtered out.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
JZilla
Footballguy
Fake news
"arms yeah"
I don't care what the soviet internet says
I saw your lyrics yesterday and rolled my eyes at that, but was going to leave it.. however now you have shuke shuked
wtf, armchair, makes no sense
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zamboni
Footballguy
To be fair, he's not the only person to have made this mistake:Fake news
"arms yeah"
I don't care what the soviet internet says
I saw your lyrics yesterday and rolled my eyes at that, but was going to leave it.. however now you have shuke shuked
wtf, armchair, makes no sense
http://www.kissthisguy.com/come-together-the-beatles-misheard-song-106.htm
Some of those other misheard lines from the song are even more ridiculous.
"Got to be at yoga, he just do what he please" - yeah, that's it.
JZilla
Footballguy
Yeah sorry I'm not trying to go after the lord's bro too hard, I looked and pretty much every lyrics site says that.. pretty sloppy worldwide cribbing IMO..
zamboni
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
wikkid's SOTU tribute:
Here come 'ol nest top
He come movin up slowly
Cowers to Pelosi
Watch teleprompter closely
He got red tie to his knee
Except that it points to the left so liberally
Come together, right now, against me
He bad production
He say wall does compute
He got all but whites bored
He one viral cracker
Approval down below his knees
One look at his brat face
You can feel his disease
Come together, right now, impeach me
He rollercoaster
Dodges them subpoenas
Cages up the dreamers
He got mushroom penis
He see Robert Mueller in his sleep
Dream about his daughter, porn stars, even sheep
Come together, right now, vote not me
Here come 'ol nest top
He come movin up slowly
Cowers to Pelosi
Watch teleprompter closely
He got red tie to his knee
Except that it points to the left so liberally
Come together, right now, against me
He bad production
He say wall does compute
He got all but whites bored
He one viral cracker
Approval down below his knees
One look at his brat face
You can feel his disease
Come together, right now, impeach me
He rollercoaster
Dodges them subpoenas
Cages up the dreamers
He got mushroom penis
He see Robert Mueller in his sleep
Dream about his daughter, porn stars, even sheep
Come together, right now, vote not me
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zamboni
Footballguy
