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25 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

here's #95:

 

i'm soooo tired, of genius timschochet

i'm soooo tired he hasn't got it yet

couldn't see past his take to win a million dollar bet, no no no

 

i'm soooo tired of arguments of taste

i'm so-o-o-o tired of folks who "know" where songs are placed

why does krista bother, thru all this drive-by haste?!

You say, you ranked it too low...

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Maybe I should wait until I'm drunk and sappy, but I want to thank deeply and sincerely the people who participated in this thread.  Actually all of them, because even the ones who irritated me earlie

The Background: I don’t remember exactly when or why I decided to do this, but it’s been rumbling around in my head for a while to put the Beatles song into an order of personal preference.  When

1.  In My Life (Rubber Soul, 1965) Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube There are only two songs I’ve ever heard that I thought were perfect in their composition and recording, by which I mean

31 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

 

Also John does not appear on this track, which happened quite a bit on Harrison songs from here on out.  A lot was made about the argument that Paul & George had in the Let It Be movie but George and John had bigger issues.   If you look at John's contributions on Harrison's post 1967 songs they were either minimal, non-audible or nothing at all.  

:goodposting:Makes me sad to think how much better some of both George’s and John’s songs could have been if John had let George in more.

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1 hour ago, grateful zed said:

Black white green red
Can I take my friend to bed

Stuff like this may fly at places like FFToday, but we like to work clean here. If you can't handle that maybe this isn't the board for you.

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29 minutes ago, krista4 said:

:goodposting:Makes me sad to think how much better some of both George’s and John’s songs could have been if John had let George in more.

And, actually, so many of George's songs are short, though dense, and often feel unfinished to the extent that it seems the others might have been hands-off so not to throw shade on his efforts when, if he'd got the treatment John & Paul gave each other, we might have more forceful, rounded product from him.

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34 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Stuff like this may fly at places like FFToday, but we like to work clean here. If you can't handle that maybe this isn't the board for you.

Beige, mauve, lemon yellow

Orange you glad that i'm so mellow

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

Private message to everyone but tim:

 

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 See title change.

I would challenge Tim to a fistfight at a charity golf event, but that has already been attempted and it didn’t stop him.

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6 minutes ago, ScottNorwood said:

I would challenge Tim to a fistfight at a charity golf event, but that has already been attempted and it didn’t stop him.

Don't tell tim, but I'm enjoying his shtick here.

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7 minutes ago, Binky The Doormat said:

I have to believe you are kidding, but even if you are ...make up a story and share.  

It happened in a timdraft, but it was actually Mr. krista who received the challenge, from a poster called TidesofWar.  tim did a riff on it earlier in this thread in response to a Mr. krista post, too.

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95.  You Really Got a Hold On Me (With the Beatles, 1963)

Beatles version:  Spotify  Beatles

Hot take alert!  I think the Beatles did a better version of this song than the original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles (the title of which the Beatles accidentally changed).  Oh no, you di'nt.

:ducksfromUruk'sshoe:

Seems I start every description at this point with "I love this song."  I love this song!  It's one of the instances where the lyrics make a huge positive difference to me.  What human hasn't experienced the feeling of wanting to get over a love and not being able to shake it?  Even when we know the person is no good, or at least no good for us:

I don't like you, but I love you
Seems that I'm always thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh, you treat me badly
I love you madly
You've really got a hold on me

We're trying to resist but can't:

I don't want you, but I need you
Don't want to kiss you but I need you
Oh, oh, oh, you do me wrong now
My love is strong now
You've really got a hold on me

And finally we just give in:

I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me

And not just give in, but feel that desire even more strongly:

Tighter
Tighter

The reason I prefer the Beatles version is that John really sinks into the desperation of these lyrics.  Smokey sounded gentle and sweet when he sang it.  John sounds like he's about to explode from the torture of it all, especially the urgency he imbues in the word "tighter."  It's almost uncomfortable to listen to, and that's why I love it. 

The band sang another version of the song during the Let It Be sessions, but I don't find John's vocal as good on that one. 

Mr. krista:  "He plays right behind the beat.  I think they made that into an aesthetic.  I like the Miracles version a little better, but I like how the Beatles really own it."

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5 minutes ago, krista4 said:

95.  You Really Got a Hold On Me (With the Beatles, 1963)

Beatles version:  Spotify  Beatles

Hot take alert!  I think the Beatles did a better version of this song than the original by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles (the title of which the Beatles accidentally changed).  Oh no, you di'nt.

:ducksfromUruk'sshoe:

Seems I start every description at this point with "I love this song."  I love this song!  It's one of the instances where the lyrics make a huge positive difference to me.  What human hasn't experienced the feeling of wanting to get over a love and not being able to shake it?  Even when we know the person is no good, or at least no good for us:

I don't like you, but I love you
Seems that I'm always thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh, you treat me badly
I love you madly
You've really got a hold on me

We're trying to resist but can't:

I don't want you, but I need you
Don't want to kiss you but I need you
Oh, oh, oh, you do me wrong now
My love is strong now
You've really got a hold on me

And finally we just give in:

I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me

And not just give in, but feel that desire even more strongly:

Tighter
Tighter

The reason I prefer the Beatles version is that John really sinks into the desperation of these lyrics.  Smokey sounded gentle and sweet when he sang it.  John sounds like he's about to explode from the torture of it all, especially the urgency he imbues in the word "tighter."  It's almost uncomfortable to listen to, and that's why I love it. 

You are right about John's vocal. He coulda made a living being a great cover artist.

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1 hour ago, krista4 said:

It happened in a timdraft, but it was actually Mr. krista who received the challenge, from a poster called TidesofWar.  tim did a riff on it earlier in this thread in response to a Mr. krista post, too.

Forgot to mention that coincidentally the threats came after Mr. krista, the judge for the "best album" part of the draft, ranked Sgt. Pepper's too low in that guy's opinion.  I think Mr. krista might have had "Revolver" overall #1, but probably had a Stooges, Ramones, and Charles Mingus record, among others, above Pepper's.

It had to have been ~10 years ago or more because we were still living in Chicago at the time, and moved from there in late 2009.  So you could find it all just by going through the last 10-11 years of tim's posts.  Simple enough.

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On 2/4/2019 at 2:22 PM, krista4 said:

102.  I Should Have Known Better (A Hard Day's Night, 1964)

My mom gave me a harmonica in high school, and this is the first song I learned to play with it. I would play it over and over until my lips went numb.

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5 hours ago, krista4 said:

You're going to have lots of screams of pain today, George fan.  :( 

You wouldn't.

ETA:  OK -- yellow alert cancelled.  

Also, despite the fact you and Mr. K hate Paul, we're actually still pretty sympatico on this stuff overall.  Really only maybe 3-4 songs I care about being so low.

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94.  Cry Baby Cry (White Album, 1968)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Like "Good Morning Good Morning," this John song might have been inspired in part by an ad, specifically some words he thought he'd caught:  "Cry baby cry; make your mother buy."  This song has a nice spooky feel to it; John's voice has a slight echo that, along with his dry and straightforward delivery, makes it sound chilling to me.  Paul's harmonies near the very end add to the eeriness, George's nifty guitar parts contribute to the tension, and the descending chords on the verses give a nice sense of menace.  The lyrics seem like a nursery rhyme and owe a debt to "Sing a Song of Sixpence" along with Lewis Carroll, and when John sings in a nearly childlike fashion in parts, it just increases how weird this song feels.  The last ~30 seconds, the "can you take me back" part by Paul, were not originally meant to be part of this song, but were from some improvisations during the recording of "I Will."  But that "song" didn't receive any separate mention on the album and by now is just considered part of this one.  In any case, my favorite part is when this song leads into that latter one; they actually seem to be meant to go together as the Paul song has a similar ghostly feel to it.  

Not-so-fun fact:  The song was first rehearsed the same day that "Ob-La-Di" was finished, the tension from all the battles over that song carrying over to the recordings of this one that night, with Geoff Emerick deciding then and there that he wouldn't be finishing this song.  The next day, he quit, and the recording of this song was begun anew.  

Mr. krista:  "It’s a great pop song.  There’s a lot of songs called cry baby or baby cry or baby baby cry cry, and I think I like them all. There’s the Janis Joplin song called Cry Baby… and there’s this…"

Suggested cover:  I guess I'm going to end up with at least three covers listed from Steve Earle, since there's another one later that I know I'll be using.  Oh well; I can't find any others I like better than this.

 

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24 minutes ago, krista4 said:

94.  Cry Baby Cry (White Album, 1968)

Beatles version:  Spotify  YouTube

Like "Good Morning Good Morning," this John song might have been inspired in part by an ad, specifically some words he thought he'd caught:  "Cry baby cry; make your mother buy."  This song has a nice spooky feel to it; John's voice has a slight echo that, along with his dry and straightforward delivery, makes it sound chilling to me.  Paul's harmonies near the very end add to the eeriness, George's nifty guitar parts contribute to the tension, and the descending chords on the verses give a nice sense of menace.  The lyrics seem like a nursery rhyme and owe a debt to "Sing a Song of Sixpence" along with Lewis Carroll, and when John sings in a nearly childlike fashion in parts, it just increases how weird this song feels.  The last ~30 seconds, the "can you take me back" part by Paul, were not originally meant to be part of this song, but were from some improvisations during the recording of "I Will."  But that "song" didn't receive any separate mention on the album and by now is just considered part of this one.  In any case, my favorite part is when this song leads into that latter one; they actually seem to be meant to go together as the Paul song has a similar ghostly feel to it.  

Not-so-fun fact:  The song was first rehearsed the same day that "Ob-La-Di" was finished, the tension from all the battles over that song carrying over to the recordings of this one that night, with Geoff Emerick deciding then and there that he wouldn't be finishing this song.  The next day, he quit, and the recording of this song was begun anew.  

Mr. krista:  "It’s a great pop song.  There’s a lot of songs called cry baby or baby cry or baby baby cry cry, and I think I like them all. There’s the Janis Joplin song called Cry Baby… and there’s this…"

Suggested cover:  I guess I'm going to end up with at least three covers listed from Steve Earle, since there's another one later that I know I'll be using.  Oh well; I can't find any others I like better than this.

 

And here's Cry Baby Cry ...#25 on the Binky Beatles Hit List!!!

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4 hours ago, krista4 said:

It happened in a timdraft, but it was actually Mr. krista who received the challenge, from a poster called TidesofWar.  tim did a riff on it earlier in this thread in response to a Mr. krista post, too.

What the heck - I could've sworn it was Tim.  I'm pretty sure he came at Tim in that thread as well, but maybe with slightly different context.

It was one of those things you read through and think "This can't possibly be real, can it?"

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I have major breaking news.

ANNOUNCE:

After years of refusing to name a tenth top 10 song, Mr. krista declared to me tonight, unprompted, that he had chosen a tenth favorite and that it might even be higher than tenth.

That song is, shockingly:  “In My Life.”

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Was going to post another selection tonight but drinking instead.  Will post six tomorrow.  After those six, there’s a moderately bright dividing line before the next group.

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4 minutes ago, krista4 said:

Was going to post another selection tonight but drinking instead.  Will post six tomorrow.  After those six, there’s a moderately bright dividing line before the next group.

Crap, I went out drinking tonight and just got home hoping for some more songs.  :squeelslikeapig:

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32 minutes ago, krista4 said:

I have major breaking news.

ANNOUNCE:

After years of refusing to name a tenth top 10 song, Mr. krista declared to me tonight, unprompted, that he had chosen a tenth favorite and that it might even be higher than tenth.

That song is, shockingly:  “In My Life.”

That is shockingly.

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9 hours ago, shuke said:

Hold you in his armchair
You can feel his disease

 

Is this right?

 

Yes.   Most likely just gobbledy#### from John but some Beatles fans believe that verse is referring to his addiction to heroin.

ETA:  I didn't realize that Gee-oh-oh-kay would be filtered out.   

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11 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

Yes.   Most likely just gobbledy#### from John but some Beatles fans believe that verse is referring to his addiction to heroin.

ETA:  I didn't realize that Gee-oh-oh-kay would be filtered out.   

Racial slur imo.

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4 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Hold you in his armchair
You can feel his disease

 

Is this right?

 

Yes.   Most likely just gobbledy#### from John but some Beatles fans believe that verse is referring to his addiction to heroin.

 

Fake news

"arms yeah"

I don't care what the soviet internet says

I saw your lyrics yesterday and rolled my eyes at that, but was going to leave it.. however now you have shuke shuked

 

wtf, armchair, makes no sense ;)

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25 minutes ago, JZilla said:

Fake news

"arms yeah"

I don't care what the soviet internet says

I saw your lyrics yesterday and rolled my eyes at that, but was going to leave it.. however now you have shuke shuked

 

wtf, armchair, makes no sense ;)

To be fair, he's not the only person to have made this mistake:

http://www.kissthisguy.com/come-together-the-beatles-misheard-song-106.htm

Some of those other misheard lines from the song are even more ridiculous. 

"Got to be at yoga, he just do what he please" - yeah, that's it.

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Just now, zamboni said:

To be fair, he's not the only person to have made this mistake:

http://www.kissthisguy.com/come-together-the-beatles-misheard-song-106.htm

Some of those other misheard lines from the song are even more ridiculous. 

"Got to be at yoga, he just do what he please" - yeah, that's it.

Yeah sorry I'm not trying to go after the lord's bro too hard, I looked and pretty much every lyrics site says that.. pretty sloppy worldwide cribbing IMO..

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1 minute ago, JZilla said:

Yeah sorry I'm not trying to go after the lord's bro too hard, I looked and pretty much every lyrics site says that.. pretty sloppy worldwide cribbing IMO..

This might be my favorite: "Come together, right now, ovary."

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wikkid's SOTU tribute:

 

Here come 'ol nest top

He come movin up slowly

Cowers to Pelosi

Watch teleprompter closely

He got red tie to his knee

Except that it points to the left so liberally

Come together, right now, against me

 

He bad production

He say wall does compute

He got all but whites bored

He one viral cracker

Approval down below his knees

One look at his brat face

You can feel his disease

Come together, right now, impeach me

 

He rollercoaster

Dodges them subpoenas

Cages up the dreamers

He got mushroom penis

He see Robert Mueller in his sleep

Dream about his daughter, porn stars, even sheep

Come together, right now, vote not me

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2 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

wikkid's SOTU tribute:

 

Here come 'ol nest top

He come movin up slowly

Cowers to Pelosi

Watch teleprompter closely

He got red tie to his knee

Although it points to the left so liberally

Come together, right now, laugh at me

 

He bad production

He say wall does compute

He got all but whites bored

He one viral cracker

Approval down below his knees

One look at his brat face

You can feel his disease

Come together, right now, impeach me

 

He rollercoaster

Dodges them subpoenas

Cages up the dreamers

He got mushroom penis

He see Robert Mueller in his sleep

Dream about his daughter, porn stars, even sheep

Come together, right now, vote not me

That's Pulitzer Prize material, wikkid.

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