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Do you think people that can't afford healthcare deserve to die?


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1 hour ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

Obviously not. 

A related question might have to do with how the US handles personal financial liability for those without health insurance. "Do you think people in America should suffer financial distress because they don't have health insurance?"

Only first world country that people go bankrupt because of medical bills is........

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2 hours ago, IC FBGCav said:

It doesn't matter how they got to the point of not having healthcare.  All the people we are talking about don't have insurance.  Do you think people in America should die because they don't have healthcare?  

I think if you are a lazy sack o #### with no job, you deserve no healthcare and should die. If you are a worker bee, then no, you are at least trying.

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29 minutes ago, lod001 said:

I think if you are a lazy sack o #### with no job, you deserve no healthcare and should die. If you are a worker bee, then no, you are at least trying.

I'm really happy for you. Your excellent good fortune coupled with an obviously unimpeachable work ethic and superior intellect have afforded you the luxury of holding this opinion.  Awesome work. You are a BOSS.

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13 minutes ago, Herb said:

I'm really happy for you. Your excellent good fortune coupled with an obviously unimpeachable work ethic and superior intellect have afforded you the luxury of holding this opinion.  Awesome work. You are a BOSS.

By good fortune, you mean I actually went out, got a job, work and pay my bills. Lets hear your wonderful plan for lazy sacks o #### who do not want to work and want the rest of us to pay for their existence?

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14 minutes ago, lod001 said:

By good fortune, you mean I actually went out, got a job, work and pay my bills. Lets hear your wonderful plan for lazy sacks o #### who do not want to work and want the rest of us to pay for their existence?

What if the lazy sack was going through a really rough time and given a little more time they'd have recovered and become a productive, tax paying member of society?

But now they're dead. 

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56 minutes ago, lod001 said:

'Due to illness' is not a lazy sack o ####. See the toad that kidnapped that girl. That's a lazy sack o #### among other things.

So where do you want everyone on your spectrum?  So working hard and defrauding people, cool?  So if you make money, cool?  Help humans, no bueno.  Here a steak a was going to throw up muffy, bueno.

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6 minutes ago, James Daulton said:

What if the lazy sack was going through a really rough time and given a little more time they'd have become a productive, tax paying member of society?

But now they're dead. 

He's not a lazy sack if he's trying. If he's sitting on his ###, has been given the opportunity to work and would rather not, then he needs to go. These are people that don't even try and yes that are a lot of them out there. Most are on some sort of illegal drug but many are simply looking for the rest of us to support them thru welfare. You all can't be oblivious to the existence of these people.

I love it how you guys try and find examples that do not fit the criteria but you think they do.

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5 minutes ago, IC FBGCav said:

So where do you want everyone on your spectrum?  So working hard and defrauding people, cool?  So if you make money, cool?  Help humans, no bueno.  Here a steak a was going to throw up muffy, bueno.

More examples that do not fit.

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28 minutes ago, lod001 said:

By good fortune, you mean I actually went out, got a job, work and pay my bills. Lets hear your wonderful plan for lazy sacks o #### who do not want to work and want the rest of us to pay for their existence?

I would NOT start by consulting you on what the definition of "lazy sack o ####" is.

It astounds me that people have the mindset that laziness should be a death sentence, whereas greed, another co-equal of the seven deadly sins, should be richly rewarded at every turn, while conveniently ignoring the rest of the sins.

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PS this has nothing to do with religion. Just making my point.
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1 minute ago, James Daulton said:

Who will be the determiner for "lazy sack" vs "trying so not a lazy sack"?

If you want the country cleaned up, then it's me. :D 

 

2 minutes ago, IC FBGCav said:

Fit what?

'a lazy sack o ####'. Someone who DOES NOT WANT TO WORKFOR A LIVING. Your attempts at examples do not fit my criteria at all.

 

2 minutes ago, Herb said:

I would NOT start by consulting you on what the definition of "lazy sack o ####" is.

It astounds me that people have the mindset that laziness should be a death sentence, whereas greed, another, co-equal of the seven deadly sins, should be richly rewarded at every turn, while conveniently ignoring the rest of the sins.

Lame first sentence, as expected from someone like you. We are not discussing criminals here or greed. We are discussing people that do not want to work and should they be given healthcare. I say no, let them die. What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension?

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Just now, lod001 said:

If you want the country cleaned up, then it's me. :D 

 

'a lazy sack o ####'. Someone who DOES NOT WANT TO WORKFOR A LIVING. Your attempts at examples do not fit my criteria at all.

 

Lame first sentence, as expected from someone like you. We are not discussing criminals here or greed. We are discussing people that do not want to work and should they be given healthcare. I say no, let them die. What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension?

My reading comprehension is fine. Your humanity seems to be broken beyond repair. I know this from reading your posts. You have provided ample evidence.

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1 minute ago, lod001 said:

If you want the country cleaned up, then it's me. :D 

 

'a lazy sack o ####'. Someone who DOES NOT WANT TO WORKFOR A LIVING. Your attempts at examples do not fit my criteria at all.

 

Lame first sentence, as expected from someone like you. We are not discussing criminals here or greed. We are discussing people that do not want to work and should they be given healthcare. I say no, let them die. What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension?

Greed is better than lazy IYO?

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3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

If you want the country cleaned up, then it's me. :D 

 

'a lazy sack o ####'. Someone who DOES NOT WANT TO WORKFOR A LIVING. Your attempts at examples do not fit my criteria at all.

 

Lame first sentence, as expected from someone like you. We are not discussing criminals here or greed. We are discussing people that do not want to work and should they be given healthcare. I say no, let them die. What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension?

So you are for Madoff and against Smokey Joe.

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1 hour ago, lod001 said:

If you want the country cleaned up, then it's me. :D 

 

'a lazy sack o ####'. Someone who DOES NOT WANT TO WORKFOR A LIVING. Your attempts at examples do not fit my criteria at all.

 

Lame first sentence, as expected from someone like you. We are not discussing criminals here or greed. We are discussing people that do not want to work and should they be given healthcare. I say no, let them die. What the hell is wrong with you people's reading comprehension?

What if they can't work because they are physically or mentally ill?   You said "due to illness" but if the illness prevents you from working, how could you show that you're not lazy, since you can't get healthcare for your illness?

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23 hours ago, IC FBGCav said:

It doesn't matter how they got to the point of not having healthcare.  All the people we are talking about don't have insurance.  Do you think people in America should die because they don't have healthcare?  

What about the hundreds of thousands of people dying every year from medical errors and prescription drug overdoses? Many of them might still be here if they did not have health insurance. Do you think they deserve to die?

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23 hours ago, IC FBGCav said:

It doesn't matter how they got to the point of not having healthcare.  All the people we are talking about don't have insurance.  Do you think people in America should die because they don't have healthcare?  

The only reasonable response to this post is to propose not only that they should die, but we should kill them.  Hunt them and mount them on our walls.

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On 1/18/2019 at 1:48 PM, lod001 said:

By good fortune, you mean I actually went out, got a job, work and pay my bills. Lets hear your wonderful plan for lazy sacks o #### who do not want to work and want the rest of us to pay for their existence?

So, you are also thinking of a society with a 100% employment rate? 

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12 hours ago, dotman said:

What about the hundreds of thousands of people dying every year from medical errors and prescription drug overdoses? Many of them might still be here if they did not have health insurance. Do you think they deserve to die?

I think this is possibly the worst false equivalency I have seen on this forum, and considering what has been posted in the USA Shootings thread recently, that is saying something.

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