Any Trading Cards guys? (Sports, etc)

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

50 minutes ago, FairWarning said:

Too many people have their friends bid to drive up the price.  If there is a $50 card you'll pay for, why not pay $20?  It's like poker, never show your hand.  You can set the snipe for $50.  Counless times I have won on the minimum bid and it really works when the auction ends at non-peak times.  I pay right away so they cannot back out.  

I don't think it (shilling) happens as often as people think. I've won quite a few for minimum bid also, that just depends on the demand for the item and what the opening bid is set for. Like I said though, if I'm willing to only pay $20, that's what I bid. It's not showing your hand since it only bids what the opening bid price is and the other is not 'revealed' unless someone bids. If nobody bids you up, you get it for the opening bid. If not, you go up to your limit and if they got over your limit, it's more than what you were willing to pay for it anyway. If it's a friend shilling for them, then they just cost themselves some fees and reduced their bottom line, which is also fine with me.  

[Hoos First 306]

So when I started buying a couple weeks ago, I would set the search to ending soonest. Usually a page worth of items that ended that day then the 1day left would start and I could go to after 6 days and some more soonest ending would start back up. Now after the 6 days its no time showing on remaining auctions even when I click on the item. Any clues to why this is happening?

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

1 hour ago, Hoos First said:

So when I started buying a couple weeks ago, I would set the search to ending soonest. Usually a page worth of items that ended that day then the 1day left would start and I could go to after 6 days and some more soonest ending would start back up. Now after the 6 days its no time showing on remaining auctions even when I click on the item. Any clues to why this is happening?

I notice some issues sometimes with their sort also. Or I'll search a player, then another player (from a previous search) will show up randomly amongst the listings. I don't know if it's something with the browser cache maybe. They have pretty heavy scripting on their site, to roll the timers, number of bids, etc. 

[Courtjester 3,372]

4 hours ago, FairWarning said:

Too many people have their friends bid to drive up the price.  If there is a $50 card you'll pay for, why not pay $20?  It's like poker, never show your hand.  You can set the snipe for $50.  Counless times I have won on the minimum bid and it really works when the auction ends at non-peak times.  I pay right away so they cannot back out.  

I do this too. i like the excitement of the last second bid.

[FairWarning 1,072]

40 minutes ago, Courtjester said:

I do this too. i like the excitement of the last second bid.

The major insert set I was collecting this year (Heritage box toppers Greatest Moments, only 50 of each and 55 cards in the set), there were 7-8 people bidding on them consistantly.  Sniping really saved me some money when it came to lots.  

Edited December 19, 2020 by FairWarning

[r0llin_game 65]

Is there any players anyone is trying to buy up and invest in?

[Hoos First 306]

6 hours ago, r0llin_game said:

Is there any players anyone is trying to buy up and invest in?

Ive been loading up on Austin Riley, Kyle Tucker and Gleyber Torres.

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

7 hours ago, r0llin_game said:

Is there any players anyone is trying to buy up and invest in?

my son has been watching Lamelo Ball since basically he was a kid, and he thinks he's gonna be a stud, so I've bought some of his cards, some to share with my son, some to HODL 

[spoons 3]

7 hours ago, r0llin_game said:

Is there any players anyone is trying to buy up and invest in?

NBA: Tyler Herro, Ja Morant Luminence (cant get enough of the dunk card!), Jamal Murray

MLB: Kyle Lewis, Alex Kirilloff, Bobby Witt Jr, Robert Puason

NFL: Justin Jefferson, Courtland Sutton, CeeDee Lamb

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

24 minutes ago, spoons said:

NBA: Tyler Herro, Ja Morant Luminence (cant get enough of the dunk card!), Jamal Murray

MLB: Kyle Lewis, Alex Kirilloff, Bobby Witt Jr, Robert Puason

NFL: Justin Jefferson, Courtland Sutton, CeeDee Lamb

AWESOME card. I got my son one for Xmas along with the Zion Luminance which is pretty sweet too

[Aloof 123]

2 hours ago, Hoos First said:

Ive been loading up on Austin Riley, Kyle Tucker and Gleyber Torres.

I think he meant GOOD players, sorry for the confusion.

[houston 48]

I like some of those young WR listed also. I didn’t like seeing that rookie cards of studs like Julio Jones and Michael Thomas don’t seem to have a ton of value, not sure why not. 

[Courtjester 3,372]

349.00 for pre-sell Hoops WTH?!! All you get per box is 2 autos. Oh and 24 inserts.....

This is not a strong NBA draft.  I know I am just preaching to the choir, but we need to break up the monopoly Panini has over products.

Hoops was always entry level stuff that kids could afford. Now we are going to be looking at 15,00 a pack for this stuff?

 

[FairWarning 1,072]

7 hours ago, Courtjester said:

349.00 for pre-sell Hoops WTH?!! All you get per box is 2 autos. Oh and 24 inserts.....

This is not a strong NBA draft.  I know I am just preaching to the choir, but we need to break up the monopoly Panini has over products.

Hoops was always entry level stuff that kids could afford. Now we are going to be looking at 15,00 a pack for this stuff?

 

And they will sell.  All of the breakers and the overseas markets will buy them.  

[FairWarning 1,072]

Would it be bad if I spent most of my stimulus money on cards?

[Senor Schmutzig 487]

1 hour ago, FairWarning said:

Would it be bad if I spent most of my stimulus money on cards?

And support your *Local* card shop? Absolutely not. That's what it's there for, right?

 

[ex-ghost 738]

Just went through my shoeboxes and binders of football cards from the 70's and 80's. Moved them to more sturdy boxes, moved the cards I liked (hey there funny named Chris Hanburger and funny picture Chuck Muncie) from binders back to the common cards. I am looking to buy some cards to fill out my roster - mostly mid-80's Walter Payton cards. Any suggestions on the best way to purchase cards online? eBay? Good sellers?

[schlesinj 39]

COMC.com

[FairWarning 1,072]

1 hour ago, ex-ghost said:

Just went through my shoeboxes and binders of football cards from the 70's and 80's. Moved them to more sturdy boxes, moved the cards I liked (hey there funny named Chris Hanburger and funny picture Chuck Muncie) from binders back to the common cards. I am looking to buy some cards to fill out my roster - mostly mid-80's Walter Payton cards. Any suggestions on the best way to purchase cards online? eBay? Good sellers?

Basically check feedback, use COMC also.

[FairWarning 1,072]

1 hour ago, Senor Schmutzig said:

And support your *Local* card shop? Absolutely not. That's what it's there for, right?

 

I used to always support them, now there is one and its everything but cards.  I'm a set collector and shops phased us out long ago.

[Vegas Trip 60]

This may be the strangest card auction item I have seen on eBay.

Who pays real money to get that many (non-FF) Billy Ripken cards graded?

This account has to be old Billy himself, right?

Edited January 5 by Vegas Trip

[comfortably numb 7,562]

On 1/2/2021 at 1:21 PM, ex-ghost said:

Just went through my shoeboxes and binders of football cards from the 70's and 80's. Moved them to more sturdy boxes, moved the cards I liked (hey there funny named Chris Hanburger and funny picture Chuck Muncie) from binders back to the common cards. I am looking to buy some cards to fill out my roster - mostly mid-80's Walter Payton cards. Any suggestions on the best way to purchase cards online? eBay? Good sellers?

I have some Walter Payton cards I plan to list, are you interested in seeing pics?

When I say some...I think its 5 or 6 I have a lot of 100+ HOF guys and some were payton.

[FairWarning 1,072]

2 hours ago, Vegas Trip said:

This may be the strangest card auction item I have seen on eBay.

Who pays real money to get that many (non-FF) Billy Ripken cards graded?

This account has to be old Billy himself, right?

A little something for everyone on eBay.  

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

3 hours ago, comfortably numb said:

I have some Walter Payton cards I plan to list, are you interested in seeing pics?

When I say some...I think its 5 or 6 I have a lot of 100+ HOF guys and some were payton.

 

[comfortably numb 7,562]

21 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

 

http://imgur.com/a/TYygoYP

Here ya go if you wanna take a look 

[tonysmiles 48]

Target has had enough at least in Florida.  New system has been implemented in my area Florida Targets.

Day they stock shelf you sign up and go wait outside.  They text you and you go inside and purchase 2 packs.  You can then put your name back on list and go wait outside they continue process until stock is gone and this ensures availability to everybody.

[comfortably numb 7,562]

On 1/5/2021 at 4:17 PM, comfortably numb said:

http://imgur.com/a/TYygoYP

Here ya go if you wanna take a look 

Sorry, 

Sold em all.

[Courtjester 3,372]

The Hoops packs are now pre-selling at 30.00 a pop on Ebay for 8 cards, which only two packs a box will contain value. This is an absolute entry level set. I paid $120 last year for a hobby box and I bought numerous fat retail packs for $5.00 a pack. Those packs had Zion and Morant RC's in them. 

I hope every breaker takes a complete bath on this product. Other than Wiseman and Ball, what is there to collect in this rookie  class? Maybe Haliburton?  Sadly I think speculators are going to be on Hampton for my Nuggets. 

Other than that, what is the point of pushing this product that high? 

I've said it before and i will say it again Panini needs to be gone.....

[FairWarning 1,072]

On 1/16/2021 at 1:03 AM, Courtjester said:

The Hoops packs are now pre-selling at 30.00 a pop on Ebay for 8 cards, which only two packs a box will contain value. This is an absolute entry level set. I paid $120 last year for a hobby box and I bought numerous fat retail packs for $5.00 a pack. Those packs had Zion and Morant RC's in them. 

I hope every breaker takes a complete bath on this product. Other than Wiseman and Ball, what is there to collect in this rookie  class? Maybe Haliburton?  Sadly I think speculators are going to be on Hampton for my Nuggets. 

Other than that, what is the point of pushing this product that high? 

I've said it before and i will say it again Panini needs to be gone.....

The basketball market has been crazy for some time now.  The hockey vintage market is right behind.

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

On 1/16/2021 at 12:03 AM, Courtjester said:

The Hoops packs are now pre-selling at 30.00 a pop on Ebay for 8 cards, which only two packs a box will contain value. This is an absolute entry level set. I paid $120 last year for a hobby box and I bought numerous fat retail packs for $5.00 a pack. Those packs had Zion and Morant RC's in them. 

I hope every breaker takes a complete bath on this product. Other than Wiseman and Ball, what is there to collect in this rookie  class? Maybe Haliburton?  Sadly I think speculators are going to be on Hampton for my Nuggets. 

Other than that, what is the point of pushing this product that high? 

I've said it before and i will say it again Panini needs to be gone.....

I think most of it is because most people can't find retail (me included). The scarcity of being able to find retail and get packs/boxes for somewhat afforable prices for the average joe, plus the corona-craze market frenzy, have driven prices up. Can't find any decent football retail either. Prizm and Mosaic go as soon as they hit the shelves. Some to insiders who know the stockers/store managers I'm sure. Others who buy up the entire availability at those stores who don't have limits set. I've seen many posts on twitter of people claiming "just scored retail!" One guy had a whole buggy literally full of Prizm FB and Hoops BB, $1900 worth. Made me sick to my stomach. 

[acarey50 638]

Hey guys - Been years since I've collected cards and clearing out garage I was going through old boxes of cards, etc.  What is the best way to value/sell if I were so inclined? I've never had anything graded, and as I understand it that is probably needed to get maximum value from some of the better cards. It is a real mix - I have a select few cards from the 50s/60s, some in pretty decent shape still, and then have a number of cards from the 80s/90s that upon some research appear they could have decent value (a few Shaquille O'neal rookies, Griffey Jr. rookies, 1992 Skybox USA Basketball cards, etc.)

Any tips/insight on the right steps I should be taking?

[FairWarning 1,072]

3 hours ago, acarey50 said:

Hey guys - Been years since I've collected cards and clearing out garage I was going through old boxes of cards, etc.  What is the best way to value/sell if I were so inclined? I've never had anything graded, and as I understand it that is probably needed to get maximum value from some of the better cards. It is a real mix - I have a select few cards from the 50s/60s, some in pretty decent shape still, and then have a number of cards from the 80s/90s that upon some research appear they could have decent value (a few Shaquille O'neal rookies, Griffey Jr. rookies, 1992 Skybox USA Basketball cards, etc.)

Any tips/insight on the right steps I should be taking?

Best way to value them is to look at completed sales on ebay.

[FairWarning 1,072]

On 1/17/2021 at 12:58 PM, Nathan R. Jessep said:

I think most of it is because most people can't find retail (me included). The scarcity of being able to find retail and get packs/boxes for somewhat afforable prices for the average joe, plus the corona-craze market frenzy, have driven prices up. Can't find any decent football retail either. Prizm and Mosaic go as soon as they hit the shelves. Some to insiders who know the stockers/store managers I'm sure. Others who buy up the entire availability at those stores who don't have limits set. I've seen many posts on twitter of people claiming "just scored retail!" One guy had a whole buggy literally full of Prizm FB and Hoops BB, $1900 worth. Made me sick to my stomach. 

I see a lot on Blowout Cards forums also.  Of course more are complaining that they are limited.  

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

@SFBayDuck here you go

[GoBirds 10,397]

On 1/17/2021 at 12:58 PM, Nathan R. Jessep said:

I think most of it is because most people can't find retail (me included). The scarcity of being able to find retail and get packs/boxes for somewhat afforable prices for the average joe, plus the corona-craze market frenzy, have driven prices up. Can't find any decent football retail either. Prizm and Mosaic go as soon as they hit the shelves. Some to insiders who know the stockers/store managers I'm sure. Others who buy up the entire availability at those stores who don't have limits set. I've seen many posts on twitter of people claiming "just scored retail!" One guy had a whole buggy literally full of Prizm FB and Hoops BB, $1900 worth. Made me sick to my stomach. 

This is crazy, why is it so hard to find any solid brands these days? I would like to get my kids into collecting but it doesn’t seem like there’s that solid Topps brand that will always be around at a decent price. I’m not looking for 90’ Leaf, just something mid range. 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

3 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

This is crazy, why is it so hard to find any solid brands these days? I would like to get my kids into collecting but it doesn’t seem like there’s that solid Topps brand that will always be around at a decent price. I’m not looking for 90’ Leaf, just something mid range. 

I know, man. I got my son a couple boxes of football and basketball off eBay for Xmas, and paid probably 2-3x retail for it, but that's what he wanted. It wasn't even the higher end stuff. We've gotten into a few random-team breaks of some of the higher end stuff for decent prices, but that just ends up being luck of the team draw. I did manage to hit a Justin Herbert Prizm rookie on one. My best result to date. My son hit a couple of nobody basketball autos, which he was excited about. I guess that's all that matters. 

[GoBirds 10,397]

3 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

I know, man. I got my son a couple boxes of football and basketball off eBay for Xmas, and paid probably 2-3x retail for it, but that's what he wanted. It wasn't even the higher end stuff. We've gotten into a few random-team breaks of some of the higher end stuff for decent prices, but that just ends up being luck of the team draw. I did manage to hit a Justin Herbert Prizm rookie on one. My best result to date. My son hit a couple of nobody basketball autos, which he was excited about. I guess that's all that matters. 

My oldest is only 9 so I’m not looking to break the bank but hoped I would find something on Amazon with no luck. I guess this isn’t the 80’s/90’s when I collect and it was way over produced. Is there even a consistent brand anymore that you know will be around year after year? 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

Just now, GoBirds said:

My oldest is only 9 so I’m not looking to break the bank but hoped I would find something on Amazon with no luck. I guess this isn’t the 80’s/90’s when I collect and it was way over produced. Is there even a consistent brand anymore that you know will be around year after year? 

Panini owns the basketball and football game now. All the "brands" (Donruss, Prizm, etc.) are all actually Panini owned. They have different levels ($ wise) of brands. Upper Deck is hockey mainly I think, and Topps mostly baseball. Some of the baseball/hockey guys might have more insight. I really only keep up with football and basketball any more. 

[GoBirds 10,397]

2 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Panini owns the basketball and football game now. All the "brands" (Donruss, Prizm, etc.) are all actually Panini owned. They have different levels ($ wise) of brands. Upper Deck is hockey mainly I think, and Topps mostly baseball. Some of the baseball/hockey guys might have more insight. I really only keep up with football and basketball any more. 

You stick to certain brands? What would you recommend aiming for with kids that age but some level of potential investment value? We don’t do hockey but are into baseball/football/basketball. 

[shuke 22,938]

3 hours ago, GoBirds said:

This is crazy, why is it so hard to find any solid brands these days? I would like to get my kids into collecting but it doesn’t seem like there’s that solid Topps brand that will always be around at a decent price. I’m not looking for 90’ Leaf, just something mid range. 

This stuff isn't for kids any more, unfortunately.

I started collecting Topps Heritage last year because it seemed like a cheaper, more accessible set.  I started a thread about it in the baseball forum.

I'm going to end up spending way more than I anticipated trying to finish the set.  I can't even find anything at retail stores any more.

Edited February 13 by shuke

[FairWarning 1,072]

8 hours ago, GoBirds said:

You stick to certain brands? What would you recommend aiming for with kids that age but some level of potential investment value? We don’t do hockey but are into baseball/football/basketball. 

I do stick to certain brands.  IMO the traditional brands hold up the best in the long term, plus they are likely to have the late bloomers in it.  

 

Shuke - THe heritage are still one of the easier and popular sets that hold up over time.  The new set is about to be released, people are flipping last years cards so they can have cash for this years,  Blowout Cards B/S?T forums are great foil finishing sets.  There are a lot of traders on there also.

[GoBirds 10,397]

1 hour ago, FairWarning said:

I do stick to certain brands.  IMO the traditional brands hold up the best in the long term, plus they are likely to have the late bloomers in it.  

 

Shuke - THe heritage are still one of the easier and popular sets that hold up over time.  The new set is about to be released, people are flipping last years cards so they can have cash for this years,  Blowout Cards B/S?T forums are great foil finishing sets.  There are a lot of traders on there also.

Which do you consider the traditional brands? When I tuned out years ago it was Topps/Upper Deck/Score/Fleer etc so I’m a bit out of touch.

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

10 hours ago, GoBirds said:

You stick to certain brands? What would you recommend aiming for with kids that age but some level of potential investment value? We don’t do hockey but are into baseball/football/basketball. 

It honestly depends on how much $ you want to spend, unfortunately. There are so many different variations within sets now, it will make your head spin. There are cards with actual gold and diamonds on/in them.  Of course will cost you 4 figures to get a "box" which is really like 1 pack with 2 cards or some nonsense. But hey you might get the diamond encrusted Joe Burrow autograph 1/1!

I got Illusions, which is probably one of the lower end sets, but they do have some nice parallels (serial #'d ones, etc.). They do those for football and basketball. I also got a box of Mosaic football, which is a little nicer set (higher value parallels, etc.) and that is a cool looking set to me. They do basketball and football also. I guess the last 2 I'd recommend for bb/fb are Prizm Draft Picks and Prizm. Both have lots of parallels and seem to hold value well thus far. Draft Picks is a notch below Prizm on the totem poll. Prizm is getting into the more expensive end of the game, but still affordable if you can find them in the wild. 

[GoBirds 10,397]

3 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

It honestly depends on how much $ you want to spend, unfortunately. There are so many different variations within sets now, it will make your head spin. There are cards with actual gold and diamonds on/in them.  Of course will cost you 4 figures to get a "box" which is really like 1 pack with 2 cards or some nonsense. But hey you might get the diamond encrusted Joe Burrow autograph 1/1!

I got Illusions, which is probably one of the lower end sets, but they do have some nice parallels (serial #'d ones, etc.). They do those for football and basketball. I also got a box of Mosaic football, which is a little nicer set (higher value parallels, etc.) and that is a cool looking set to me. They do basketball and football also. I guess the last 2 I'd recommend for bb/fb are Prizm Draft Picks and Prizm. Both have lots of parallels and seem to hold value well thus far. Draft Picks is a notch below Prizm on the totem poll. Prizm is getting into the more expensive end of the game, but still affordable if you can find them in the wild. 

Just looked up a box of Mosaic on Amazon....$120 for a box of...32 cards. 😂

 

Man I’m old , back in my day each pack had 15 card and there were like 32 packs in a box. Thanks for bringing me up to the times. Wow. 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

also to find recent ebay sale values, you can use 130point.com

I believe @jvdesigns2002 recommended that a while back. It just pulls back the sales and the Best Offer accepted prices for the last 100 or so sales on whatever you search. You have to create an account now, but it's free. I think bots were abusing their system. It's still slow to load sometimes, but keep trying and it will eventually give you the results. They have an app (or someone does) but I couldn't ever get it to work right. 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

1 minute ago, GoBirds said:

Just looked up a box of Mosaic on Amazon....$120 for a box of...32 cards. 😂

 

Man I’m old , back in my day each pack had 15 card and there were like 32 packs in a box. Thanks for bringing me up to the times. Wow. 

Yeah, but go look up whichever box you just searched on ebay. If it was 2020 football, for example... Go look up Justin Herbert Mosaic rc prizm listings on eBay. You'll see why they're priced the way they are. 

[GoBirds 10,397]

8 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Yeah, but go look up whichever box you just searched on ebay. If it was 2020 football, for example... Go look up Justin Herbert Mosaic rc prizm listings on eBay. You'll see why they're priced the way they are. 

You are right, wow. I am about to order a Beckett price guide do they still cover the older 80’s/90’s sets too? Want to get a plan together to grade some of my older cards. So PSA is the way to go, how do you ensure they aren’t lost or damaged in the mail? Have some old Montana/Rice/Marino/Emmitt RC’s. 

[FairWarning 1,072]

1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

You are right, wow. I am about to order a Beckett price guide do they still cover the older 80’s/90’s sets too? Want to get a plan together to grade some of my older cards. So PSA is the way to go, how do you ensure they aren’t lost or damaged in the mail? Have some old Montana/Rice/Marino/Emmitt RC’s. 

Seriously, save the money on Beckett.  eBay sales are a better gage.   We can help you on these also.  

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

You are right, wow. I am about to order a Beckett price guide do they still cover the older 80’s/90’s sets too? Want to get a plan together to grade some of my older cards. So PSA is the way to go, how do you ensure they aren’t lost or damaged in the mail? Have some old Montana/Rice/Marino/Emmitt RC’s. 

I've only ever done Beckett Grading but that was years ago. PSA is definitely the way to go right now. I wouldn't worry with the price guide. eBay IS the price guide these days. I'd just make a spreadsheet and look up recent sale values. There should be plenty of the ones you have to give you an idea of value. Then you might be able to eyeball some of the PSA listings for the cards you have and kind of compare the condition to how yours look and give you an idea of what you might have for getting a grade put on it. 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

Just looked up a box of Mosaic on Amazon....$120 for a box of...32 cards. 😂

 

Man I’m old , back in my day each pack had 15 card and there were like 32 packs in a box. Thanks for bringing me up to the times. Wow. 

Also, there aren't as many cards in most sets these days. Not as many "commons." Some have zero commons, really. There are base cards and parallels. But even the base cards are just star players. So the smaller pack/card counts has a little to do with that also.