I am pretty high on him based on last years performance. Pretty early for ADPs to be that accurate, but seeing him ~ 16 here, ~ 12 from CBS writers in aggregate, and ~35 on ESPN. I think 12-16 is where I have him mentally, but I was hoping his ADP on websites would be lower so I can get him in the late 2nd or early 3rd. Probably going to be a lot of online drafts this year, so it might depend on each sites pre-rankings, since it feels like a common thought is "there are 10 people still above him, I could wait another round", depending on the sharkiness of the league. Darn writers giving him the ADP I gave him (except ESPN).
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
I've been doing mock drafts on sleeper, his ranking on there is mid 2nd. I have the 7th pick in a 10 team start up soon, he will not make it past 14. The guy sitting at 5 will definitely take him with pick 16 if I'd let him slide.
CBS putting him 35 is ridiculous. Puts Sanders behind CEH and JT? Don't like it.
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Deamon
Footballguy
Gonna absolutely disagree here. This is Senders' backfield now. He was a rookie and for a good part of the season wasn't getting a ton of carries. To think that his role could DECREASE this year is crazy.
Deamon
Footballguy
I am Deamon haha.
So if Freeman or Hyde HAD been signed, you think Miles Senders' usage this season could have decreased from last year's rookie season usage?
-OZ-
Footballguy
I should pay more attention. Did you change your picture or am I just imagining things? I think without Freeman or Hyde, Sanders gets a heavy work load. Top 10 type, maybe top 5 in ppr. If either had been signed I'd wonder what the staff thinks of Sanders ability to carry the load. Not as much with Hyde, I actually think that would have been a nice duo. But if they brought in Freeman (unless maybe it's a bargain contract) I'd have concerns.
I do think either hyde or Freeman would get more than 130 touches (Howard's load last year).
Deamon
Footballguy
Nope same picture as always haha.
I think without Freeman or Hyde, Sanders gets a heavy work load. Top 10 type, maybe top 5 in ppr. If either had been signed I'd wonder what the staff thinks of Sanders ability to carry the load. Not as much with Hyde, I actually think that would have been a nice duo. But if they brought in Freeman (unless maybe it's a bargain contract) I'd have concerns.
I do think either hyde or Freeman would get more than 130 touches (Howard's load last year).
Sproles, Ajayi, etc. also got carries last year and are gone. Every insider, and all the talk from the team is that this IS Miles' backfield. He's the feature back, there's no doubts about that. To see a decrease in load this year is pretty close to impossible (barring injury) even if they had signed Freeman.
He never got more than 13 carries a game last season until week 13. He would have gotten MINIMUM 13 a game even with Freeman there as his backup.
I think people are really missing the boat here if they don't see Sanders as the starter in Philly (which he wasn't last year for most of the year), and seeing his usage increase from a rookie year where he was behind Howard.
That's interesting, as a Sanders owner, I was more concerned with Hyde than Freeman. I was fearful that Hyde, if healthy, could have formed a Thunder/Lightning combo, with Hyde eating up short yardage and clock killing duty. I just viewed Freeman as a direct back up had he signed with them, considering more skill overlap than with Hyde.
I think without Freeman or Hyde, Sanders gets a heavy work load. Top 10 type, maybe top 5 in ppr. If either had been signed I'd wonder what the staff thinks of Sanders ability to carry the load. Not as much with Hyde, I actually think that would have been a nice duo. But if they brought in Freeman (unless maybe it's a bargain contract) I'd have concerns.
I do think either hyde or Freeman would get more than 130 touches (Howard's load last year).
Thankfully, we don't have to worry about either it looks like, and we can likely enjoy what looks like a primarily Sanders backfield.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
Neither would have hurt him a ton. This year is gonna be the Miles Sanders show... Similar to how Shady and Westbrook were when here. 15 carries a game minimum I think if healthy.... that puts him at 1.5X the carries he had last year when he was RB15. His 3 Rushing TD's should almost surely go up too.Mene said:
Faust
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jm192
Footballguy
Do we think Boston Scott takes a significant number of carries?
I worry that he won't get rushing volume consistent with other guys in the top 10. But I do think he'll get close to 80 catches. I think he'll have a Kamara like statline of 900 rushing yards, 700 receiving yards, 10-12 TD's
I worry that he won't get rushing volume consistent with other guys in the top 10. But I do think he'll get close to 80 catches. I think he'll have a Kamara like statline of 900 rushing yards, 700 receiving yards, 10-12 TD's
32 Counter Pass
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
Weird, because Arian was known for his vision where Miles is ridiculed for his. I will say this for Sanders, he does better with stretch plays where he can see things develope instead of the instant decisions of the inside zone. Foster feasted on those stretch runs. Hopefully the Eagles aren't hard headed.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
Would you deal Sanders for the 1.01 in a Dynasty Standard Scoring - 14 Team no PPR?
cloppbeast
Footballguy
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
I like him as well!He was hesitant early in the year and too eager to take everything outside and break things open he was leaving lots of inside holes and yardage on the table. He improved as he settled in
makes sense to me that he’d elicit wisdom from a player in an area he needs to continually develop. His inside running game looked to be the biggest area of improvement
cloppbeast
Footballguy
I don't think Sanders improved much, except he exploited defenses for huge gains a few times. I'd still say he struggled there.
My hope is the Eagles stop using the inside zone so much. They haven't been doing rpo or read-option anyway so I don't see the benefit when your lead rb struggles with it.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
I'm about to crack open a Duff! beer. 
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
From college to parts of last year he did what I like to refer to as the Shady McCoy shuffle. McCoy would dance around the backfield a lot and most of the time get the yards but on those occasions he didn't he'd be tackled for a big loss. Miles Sanders did this routinely at PSU and in the NFL his rookie year at points. Half way through I saw it less but still noticeable. I'm not sure if it's a vision problem or not trusting his blockers. In a sense yes he left yards on the field last year and hopefully that's what he meant by that. Trusting his blockers more and having better vision
DJackson10
Footballguy
Theres been talk about the Eagles bringing in Devonte Freeman but it's mostly media speculation like suggestions on a NFL.com piece of best fits for remaining FA"s. Freeman to the Eagles makes sense as he can get 5-10 TOTs a game build up his rep if he does well. On the flip side it hurts Sanders Production value but having another serviceable reliable back who's talented the Eagles maybe able to rest Miles more in games where they have a huge lead or down big and don't want to risk a dumb injury to the guy.
However this shouldn't concern people now as it's mostly outside media talk and no Philly guys are saying anything.
However this shouldn't concern people now as it's mostly outside media talk and no Philly guys are saying anything.
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Sigh.
Dark Matter
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
:(
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Now he’s been spotted at practice and a lot of mights and maybes.
Some of this is starting to sound like coschspeak & gamesmanship.
Some of this is starting to sound like coschspeak & gamesmanship.
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TZMarkie
Footballguy
I'm firing him up everywhere, including the Yahoo Cup.
If you don't start him vs. the Washington Amateur Football team, what were you drafting him for right....?
Starting him with confidence, and sticking my chest out proudly.......................
(season ender imminent)
But fingers crossed he has a Hell of a season.
TZM
