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MILES SANDERS RB, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

NBC Sports' Reuben Frank believes the Eagles could select a running back in the second or third round of the draft.

Frank is just speculating but it's worth noting for fantasy players as Miles Sanders stock would take a notable hit if the team brought in competition for him. Frank cited Sanders' injury history and a potential increase in running plays in HC Nick Siriani's offense as reasons for Philly to draft a running back early. Sanders has dealt with multiple knee injuries since entering the league two years ago and is often spelled by Boston Scott. A Day 2 back would likely eat into Sanders' role more than Scott has and would push Sanders into RB3 territory. The Eagles currently hold the 37th pick and two picks in the third round.

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Boston Scott

SOURCE: NBC Sports Philadelphia

Apr 25, 2021, 7:45 PM ET

 

 

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Actually, 3 runs of 70+ yards. Sanders 2020 season was an historic one, accomplishing something most Hall of Fame RBs have not. But yeah, Sanders is a JAG with no explosiveness or upside. Makes zero s

I have read some stuff on PFF that seems to indicate pass blocking ability only really matters for fantasy on the abosulte extremes. Even at the extremes it doesn't always matter, CMc's rookie year he

At first I am afraid, I am petrified.    

Eagles seem destined to be the imploding franchise for the 2021 season. Sanders' stats were all over the place last season, I'm not sure he's someone you can count on for fantasy. Growing pains for Hurts, growing pains with the new coaching staff. I'd be willing to bet things get worse before they get better. 

 

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Sanders’ rookie season started slow due to splitting with Jordan Howard, but he showed major flashes over the second half, particularly as a receiver, and was considered a breakout candidate heading into 2020. Unfortunately, 2020 was marred by awful Wentz, and bad coaching/play calling. Impossible to accurately judge Sanders on the overall mess that was the 2020 Eagles. 
 

Heading into 2021, Sanders is slated to be the feature back in the same RB friendly system, and under the same head coach, that helped Jonathan Taylor become a star in 2020. Sanders should be leaned on heavily, and has a clear path to finishing as an RB1. Seems like a great buy-low imo.
 

 

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19 minutes ago, ffmail4me said:

with all the needs the Eagles have right now...taking a RB in the first 4 or 5 rounds seems REALLY stupid...then again, we are talking about the Eagles....

They really have no depth behind him. So they have to take one at some point or they'll rely on UDFAs again. 

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36 minutes ago, Insein said:

They really have no depth behind him. So they have to take one at some point or they'll rely on UDFAs again. 

Scott while not a world beater, did average 4.7 per carry and was very solid in the passing game. So I just don't see a huge glaring need at RB over the issues on both lines, the secondary, the receivers, etc....

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10 hours ago, Insein said:

They really have no depth behind him. So they have to take one at some point or they'll rely on UDFAs again. 

Don't forget they signed jordan howard

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11 hours ago, zamboni said:

I think there’s a fair chance he won’t make the final roster.

one can hope

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1 minute ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Nobody likes Miles Sanders. I asked for the 1.4 and it was rejected within minutes without any discussion.

Which means he's probably a nice buy low.

One of my bigger takeaways this offseason has been how vastly different my leagues are than those that frequent this board. I sold Sanders in both of mine. I net 1.4 and Harrison Bryant in one and I included a '22 #1 and Trautman with him to get Mahomes in the other And I like him - he was just my 3rd RB in both and in each case I also like my #4.

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4 minutes ago, MAC_32 said:

One of my bigger takeaways this offseason has been how vastly different my leagues are than those that frequent this board. I sold Sanders in both of mine. I net 1.4 and Harrison Bryant in one and I included a '22 #1 and Trautman with him to get Mahomes in the other And I like him - he was just my 3rd RB in both and in each case I also like my #4.

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On 4/27/2021 at 7:38 AM, Andy Dufresne said:

Nobody likes Miles Sanders. I asked for the 1.4 and it was rejected within minutes without any discussion.

Which means he's probably a nice buy low.

Man, things change fast around here.  People sour so quickly on players and a lot of the time it is unjustified.  I guess it is that microwave society we live in.  

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7 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Man, things change fast around here.  People sour so quickly on players and a lot of the time it is unjustified.  I guess it is that microwave society we live in.  

It's funny how dynasty is supposed to be a long term strategy, but it now seems players values dip up and down on a weekly basis.

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51 minutes ago, Insein said:

Eagles select Kenneth Gainwell in the 5th round.

Which I think is great, actually.  Gainwell may get 5-8 touches per game, but Sanders is probably best used in a 15-18 touch per game role anyways.  And he’s excellent and explosive in that capacity.  

What you don’t want the Eagles to do is to grab a Javonte Williams in the second round.  And they didn’t.  Big win for Sanders.  Can’t wait to watch their offense, hopefully with Hurts and Sanders on the field for a majority of the season.

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2 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

Which I think is great, actually.  Gainwell may get 5-8 touches per game, but Sanders is probably best used in a 15-18 touch per game role anyways.  And he’s excellent and explosive in that capacity.  

What you don’t want the Eagles to do is to grab a Javonte Williams in the second round.  And they didn’t.  Big win for Sanders.  Can’t wait to watch their offense, hopefully with Hurts and Sanders on the field for a majority of the season.

For Sanders owners, Gainwell is no bigger of a threat than Boston Scott was. 

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Tylan Wallace, Chuba and Gainwell value got absolutely crushed. Michael Carter and Amon Ra got nice boost though. Did Miami or ATL do anything at RB?

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On 4/28/2021 at 10:27 AM, Dr. Octopus said:

It's funny how dynasty is supposed to be a long term strategy, but it now seems players values dip up and down on a weekly basis.

Which is why everyone should do their own rankings without looking at consensus until you feel really strongly about your board. We are so easily influenced by groupthink that we can take advantage of the minute to minute changes. 

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Miles Sanders 2021 Outlook: Replacement Level RB Will Give You Replacement Level Production

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Initially, the concern with Miles Sanders was predicated on Doug Pederson's history of utilizing multiple running backs. Sanders' 77% snap share in 2020 put those concerns to rest. The problem with Sanders is not his usage, it's his talent. Sanders is "just a guy." He finished as the RB18 last season, but showed little in the way of explosiveness or upside. The Eagles have a new head coach in 2021. They are fully committed to Jalen Hurts, at least for this season, whose presence will likely cause a drop in Sanders' 12.3% target share as Hurts chooses to run instead of check it down. Hurts will also steal goal line carries, limiting Sanders' touchdown upside. There's also the matter of the very clear message the Eagles are sending to us regarding what they think of Sanders. If the Eagles thought Sanders was any good, would they have signed Jordan Howard, drafted Kenny Gainwell, and claimed Kerryon Johnson off waivers? I'm not saying any of these guys are threats to take Sanders' job. It's just that if Sanders was that good, the Eagles' front office wouldn't feel the need to roster four or five guys that can compete for touches. After flopping as a late first/early second round pick in 2020, Sanders is now priced as a mid to low RB2 that can be had late second/early third round. Despite all the competition, I still don't see anyone taking his job. Sanders is not a bad pick, but he's more floor than ceiling in 2021.--Jason Katz - RotoBaller

 

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1 hour ago, Faust said:

Not sure how you can label a guy who got 3 runs of over 40 yards had 10 plays of over 20 yards on 192 touches as not explosive or not showing upside.

And the reason the Eagles keep picking up RB's is their new head coach is from the Reich tree which means they will be using multiple Rb's each week and not relying on a bell cow. They are not picking up RB's because they are down on Sanders play though I would guess they are down on his fumbling. That was a knock on him coming and it's proven true.

Sanders is the starter and probably looking at something a hair under 50% snap share. Gainwell and Scott likely compete for the role we've seen Nyheim Hines play last few years. Howard and Kerryon compete for the role we saw Jordan Wilkins play last year, the one Mack probably plays this year. That's how I see it.

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1 hour ago, menobrown said:

Not sure how you can label a guy who got 3 runs of over 40 yards had 10 plays of over 20 yards on 192 touches as not explosive or not showing upside.

And the reason the Eagles keep picking up RB's is their new head coach is from the Reich tree which means they will be using multiple Rb's each week and not relying on a bell cow. They are not picking up RB's because they are down on Sanders play though I would guess they are down on his fumbling. That was a knock on him coming and it's proven true.

Sanders is the starter and probably looking at something a hair under 50% snap share. Gainwell and Scott likely compete for the role we've seen Nyheim Hines play last few years. Howard and Kerryon compete for the role we saw Jordan Wilkins play last year, the one Mack probably plays this year. That's how I see it.

Actually, 3 runs of 70+ yards. Sanders 2020 season was an historic one, accomplishing something most Hall of Fame RBs have not. But yeah, Sanders is a JAG with no explosiveness or upside. Makes zero sense at all. If anything, Sanders is one of the most explosive RBs in the NFL. 
 

Honestly, just about everything in that article is rubbish. The writer wants Sanders owners to be concerned about them adding a couple middling free agents, and drafting a RB. The real takeaway here is that Philly didn’t bring in any free agents who would realistically challenge Sanders atop the depth chart, and they bypassed any potential Sanders replacements in the draft, opting to add only a receiving back in the 5th round. All of this should be interpreted as a strong vote of confidence in Sanders as their lead RB. 
The coaching staff is clearly content with Sanders in that role, and likely pretty excited to have one of the leagues most explosive starting RBs. Why wouldn’t they be?

While he may have a limited role as a receiver, Sanders will likely set a career high in touches providing even more opportunities for those explosive plays that can turn a disappointing  fantasy day into a week-winning one in an instant. He likely won’t be drafted as an RB1, but I won’t be shocked if he finishes as a top 12 fantasy RB by seasons end, providing many exciting plays along the way.

It’s becoming clear that the perception of Miles Sanders is being skewed by the overall mess that was the 2020 Philadelphia Eagles. In fact, Sanders was one of the few bright spots. In 2021 Sanders gets a fresh start, with a new coach who features his RBs, and what should be a strong offensive line. Having something to prove may be just what Sanders needs, and I think he proves his doubters wrong in 2021 with the best season of his young career.

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MILES SANDERS RB, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Eagles RT Lane Johnson said there seems to be "more emphasis on the screen game" in Nick Sirianni's offense.

Indianapolis' backfield averaged the league's fourth-highest target rate last year, but that was written off as Philip Rivers' propensity to hone in on that position. Any uptick in targets for Philadelphia's running backs would be tremendous news for Miles Sanders after that unit caught the seventh-fewest receptions (60) under Doug Pederson last year. Fifth-round RB Kenny Gainwell is also expected to compete with Sanders for work on passing downs.

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Kenneth Gainwell

SOURCE: Eliot Shorr Parks on Twitter

May 20, 2021, 3:03 PM ET

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Faust said:

MILES SANDERS RB, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Eagles RT Lane Johnson said there seems to be "more emphasis on the screen game" in Nick Sirianni's offense.

The Philly screen game was horrid last season...so many missed opportunities.  Makes sense to emphasize it more, especially with the running backs the Eagles have.

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4 hours ago, trader jake said:

The Philly screen game was horrid last season...so many missed opportunities.  Makes sense to emphasize it more, especially with the running backs the Eagles have.

And it's easy plays for hurts

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MILES SANDERS RB, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Eagles RBs coach Jamel Singleton downplayed the idea of an “every-down” running back.

“It all depends on your room,” Singleton said. "You need a first- and second-down runner with that really elite ability. You need a guy that can pass protect on third down and be short yardage. You need a back that can run routes and you can put him out in empty. It’s really a combination of that. I think the days of, ‘he’s an every-down back,’ that’s a little skewed these days because of the speed, because of the contact.” Sanders averaged 18.3 touches in Jalen Hurts' three full starts to close the year but that workload seems to have left the building with the previous coaching staff. Sanders' current ADP as the RB19 for Best-Ball leagues should arguably be lower with ensuing upticks for Boston Scott and fifth-rounder Kenny Gainwell at the back-end of drafts.

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SOURCE: The Athletic

Jun 10, 2021, 11:13 AM ET

 

 

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