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McConnell: House election reform bill won't get Senate vote (1 Viewer)

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So the Dems keep cranking out legislation - trying to address the issues.

But the Senate is too busy doing nothing to even take up the bills and offer alternatives.  

Nice scam they have going there....

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Monday that he will not bring a House election reform bill up for a vote in the Senate. 

"This sprawling 622-page doorstop is never going to become law. I certainly don't plan to even bring it to the floor here in the Senate," McConnell said from the Senate floor.

McConnell added that "there's always improvements and reforms to be made, but this certainly isn't." 

House Democrats are poised to pass the sweeping anti-corruption bill, known as H.R. 1, this week, kicking the legislation to the GOP-controlled Senate. Democrats unveiled the legislation on their first day back in control of the House, underscoring its importance to their agenda. Proponents of the bill argue it's necessary to crack down on corruption in upcoming elections.

 
roadkill1292 said:
House Dems need to be submitting all kinds of good bills to the Senate and get Mitch and the boyos on the record opposing things that average poor and middle class Americans like.
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It also gets the ball rolling if they ever regain the Senate. A big reason why we still have the ACA is because the GOP never came up with actual legislation, just that they wanted to get rid of it and try and keep it from succeeding.

Also a lot of talk about abuse of power centers around Trump but I think we really need to take a good look at the power given to the leaders of each chamber. It seems ridiculous that McConnell can just kill a bill that passed the House with no discussion or vote. They should at least have to go on the record that they opposed this legislation by having a vote. Same goes with Pelosi in the House, not that the Senate is even trying to pass anything. 

 
roadkill1292 said:
House Dems need to be submitting all kinds of good bills to the Senate and get Mitch and the boyos on the record opposing things that average poor and middle class Americans like.
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  Mitch isn't going to let any voting rights bill from the House come to a vote because the GOP isn't in favor of letting more people vote. They just don't want to go on the record.

 
Insomniac said:
  Mitch isn't going to let any voting rights bill from the House come to a vote because the GOP isn't in favor of letting more people vote. They just don't want to go on the record.
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We've discussed election reform a little bit on this board but not enough for my liking. Yeah, Republicans aren't dumb, they can read polls and they understand demographics, too. Giving in to drastic election reforms (among other things), already difficult for a group of people inherently much more adverse to change than their opponents, would mean that the Dems' numerical superiority would be more likely to come into play down the road. 

I think that by fighting these kinds of rear guard actions, frantically shooting cover for the more radical wing of the party, Pubbies are risking an election in the not too distant future where they get really hammered. Then, and only then, will they track back in towards the middle. A middle that keeps moving further away from them.

 
I obviously don’t understand how Congress works with regards to voting on proposed bills.  Aside from that, though, McConnell would seem to be signaling that a no vote is better than a “no” vote.  From a political standpoint, wouldn’t it be better to show defeat of the “socialist agenda from the Left” rather than inaction?  To me it seems voting and blocking would be the more effective marketing strategy 

 
That one guy said:
I obviously don’t understand how Congress works with regards to voting on proposed bills.  Aside from that, though, McConnell would seem to be signaling that a no vote is better than a “no” vote.  From a political standpoint, wouldn’t it be better to show defeat of the “socialist agenda from the Left” rather than inaction?  To me it seems voting and blocking would be the more effective marketing strategy 
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Imo, Senate Republicans don't want to make an official "No" vote on issues that are largely popular ones (and championed mostly by Dems). The better strategy, in their eyes, is to downplay as many of the Democratic initiatives as they can, sort of pretend they're not happening. The more casual proponents of the bills probably won't catch on and Fox won't tell the base. Pubbies don't want confrontations, or even discussion, really, of things like UHC and election reform because they know the American public likes these things.

 
That one guy said:
I obviously don’t understand how Congress works with regards to voting on proposed bills.  Aside from that, though, McConnell would seem to be signaling that a no vote is better than a “no” vote.  From a political standpoint, wouldn’t it be better to show defeat of the “socialist agenda from the Left” rather than inaction?  To me it seems voting and blocking would be the more effective marketing strategy 
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Individual Senators don't like having to make difficult votes.  If McConnell prevents such votes from taking place that's good for them.  In theory it could hurt McConnell himself but Kentucky is a pretty safe Senate seat so he's not worried.

 
That one guy said:
I obviously don’t understand how Congress works with regards to voting on proposed bills.  Aside from that, though, McConnell would seem to be signaling that a no vote is better than a “no” vote.  From a political standpoint, wouldn’t it be better to show defeat of the “socialist agenda from the Left” rather than inaction?  To me it seems voting and blocking would be the more effective marketing strategy 
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Tough for Senate republicans to argue that a Bill targeting voter suppression is part of a socialist agenda, but I get your point.

 
gianmarco said:
How to repair democracy

10 things about HR 1 you may not know
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I had started to break this down to put in the legislation thread I started, but I realized I don't want to run a thread like that.  :lol:

Anyway, all these things I noticed and as I was writing up a response I realized there was NO WAY IN HELL the GOP would go for something like this.  You could have thrown $50 billion in for border walls and they'd still vote against it.

 
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