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Thanks.As fun as this game has been, I posted what I read... believe it, don't believe it.
Thanks.As fun as this game has been, I posted what I read... believe it, don't believe it.
This is an unfair setup in this case, and I will not dignify it with a joke.And a gofundme on his Twitter. Seems like the Bernie folks have fallen for another thin conspiracy about Pete...
Where did Pete go public with his defiance? This smells funny.From Pete political consultant Jon Bush (via his Facebook page)
What Obama policies and Pete proposals "advance a grossly inequitable system"?“Unity” is always centered on the left-center-right political spectrum, and how affable the politician is. It’s never centered on class disparity- the uppercrust point .2% of people that actually rule this country while everyone else gets left with scraps.
There will never be unity in this country so long as this problem goes undiagnosed. It doesn’t matter how many smiling empty suits they trot out. They want people to sit still and be quiet while their lives get hollowed out. It’s not going to happen.
The problem isn’t that Pete & Obama aren’t nice enough guys. The problem is that they advance a grossly inequitable system and expect people to just shut up and take it. That’s why we got Trump.
Honestly, you should check credibility before posting stuff like that.As fun as this game has been, I posted what I read... believe it, don't believe it.
Cool I'll keep that in mindHonestly, you should check credibility before posting stuff like that.
I suspect there is a fair amount of Russian “bot” propaganda pushing disinformation for Bernie. I’m sure there are Bernie supporters who buy it, but there are also people holding it against him. One thing is for sure: sowing discontent.And a gofundme on his Twitter. Seems like the Bernie folks have fallen for another thin conspiracy about Pete...
If he ever manages to get health care legislation passed, it will probably look alot more like "Medicare for those who want it" than "Medicare for all."I think Bernie can win and make some positive changes with his appointment powers and executive orders and stuff. But I don't see any of his major legislation getting passed either.
Nice to see you poke your head back in here. Never got to say goodbye since I was suspended. Who you going with now?
The statusquoness of this breaks my heart, to the point that i doubt him for the Obama others have accused him of being. We are, indeed, broken......Buttigieg advisors have confirmed that Pete will endorse Biden.
I think you're overestimating the fractiousness of the man and not paying heed to the strength he sees in America. Sometimes, in order to catch the tide back to shore, one must first steady the boat in calm waters. We're not too far gone. There is hope for us yet.The statusquoness of this breaks my heart, to the point that i doubt him for the Obama others have accused him of being. We are, indeed, broken......
My goals were two fold: 1. to expose him for the neolib tool that he is.Thanks to all the folks here who continued to post positive Pete stories here (and to @ren hoek for keeping everyone on their toes).
i'm done with it. i know now i wont see another germ of hope in the few yrs i have left and being right about the crash will bring me no joy. back to Spinozan groundwork for meI think you're overestimating the fractiousness of the man and not paying heed to the strength he sees in America. Sometimes, in order to catch the tide back to shore, one must first steady the boat in calm waters. We're not too far gone. There is hope for us yet.
You know - hard to say for sure. I am not thrilled with any of the remaining candidates - but they are who we have to choose from now.Nice to see you poke your head back in here. Never got to say goodbye since I was suspended. Who you going with now?
Did not expect you to be on board with Biden.You know - hard to say for sure. I am not thrilled with any of the remaining candidates - but they are who we have to choose from now.
I think I will follow Pete's lead and vote for Biden. I personally kind of like Warren and wish she had edged the left-side of the party. I would vote for Bernie in the general election, but it feels like we would be simply replacing one extreme for another. I would have a tough time supporting Bloomberg, even in the general, as I am not entirely sure how he is different than Trump.
I do think this is now Biden's race to lose, as I still don't think Bernie can get 50% of the delegates before the convention. Clyburn hinted after SC that the Dem leadership has been waiting to get behind Biden, and I think they will do so now - setting up the DNC v. Bernie again.
Desperate times call for desperate measures.Did not expect you to be on board with Biden.
Ultimately, I think he is a poor candidate, and that the DNC has taken a pretty big risk here.Did not expect you to be on board with Biden.
No, I was one of the big Bernie fans in 2016. I just have a different perspective this cycle. I like most of his policies. I am not a yuge fan of his uncompromising ways, nor the way he fails to admonish some of his more ardent supporters. I never paid much attention to the Bernie Bro phenomenon in 2016, but was more acutely aware of them this cycle. Leadership starts at the top - and I think he is lacking in that department.Am I remembering incorrectly? Wasn't Sinn pretty much the mayor of the Bernie thread in 2016? Or was it another Tottenham guy?
Howdy SinnJust saw Pete's endorsement live on FB. Still a class act. Biden then compared Pete to his son Beau, so I imagine there will be a spot in a Biden administration for Buttigieg.
ETA: “He reminds me of my son Beau,” Biden says, calling that the “highest compliment I can give.”
This is the reason I was in on Pete even though I’m closer politically to Bernie.I am much closer, politically, to Bernie's positions but I worry about the overall impact of swinging from one extreme to the other. I don' think we can afford 4 more years of entrenched sides.
There’ll be a spot for Harris, too. The only question in my mind is whether it’s VP or an appointment to SCOTUS.Just saw Pete's endorsement live on FB. Still a class act. Biden then compared Pete to his son Beau, so I imagine there will be a spot in a Biden administration for Buttigieg.
ETA: “He reminds me of my son Beau,” Biden says, calling that the “highest compliment I can give.”
Yeah...he shouldn't have quit. He could have picked up some Amy backers and been in the game.It was like the entire Democratic party was on a boat in the ocean during a hurricane and Pete was the shining beacon of the lighthouse showing us the way to safety. We instead went the other way directly into the storm and the outcome is not yet written. I think Pete's message was the winning message and I believed in him that he could start to heal the country with his positive presence. Now that it is down to Joe and Bernie, I will throw my support behind Joe but I am nervous about this too. One of the things I loved about Pete was that there was no Burisma type garbage that could be manufactured with the help of adversarial foreign actors. And he could speak clearly and articulately without ranting or word salad. It's going to be a ride for sure. But I do feel better now that he did the right thing for the party/country instead of staying in and eating into delegates when he had no chance.
Any would never have quit before Pete.Yeah...he shouldn't have quit. He could have picked up some Amy backers and been in the game.
VP makes a lot of sense. It's Biden's role to sway moderate voters, and Kamala would be excellent for rallying the base to show up in November.There’ll be a spot for Harris, too. The only question in my mind is whether it’s VP or an appointment to SCOTUS.
What was he hoping for? He won Iowa and showed well in NH. He was never winning SC. I could have told him that months ago and saved him the time and you a couple of grand. His path was similar to Bernie's four years ago. He needed to command more camera time and fight from behind. He had the tools to give it a run.Any would never have quit before Pete.Yeah...he shouldn't have quit. He could have picked up some Amy backers and been in the game.
Wasn't the argument that Harris would be more effective in the Senate. Also, what about Amy?There’ll be a spot for Harris, too. The only question in my mind is whether it’s VP or an appointment to SCOTUS.
“Crazy. It’s time we get behind someone younger and sharper like Joe Biden.”Maurile Tremblay said:“If Pete decides to run in 2060 he will still be younger than Bernie is today.”
https://twitter.com/joshgartner/status/1234274581411704832
You mean fight for a contested convention?BassNBrew said:What was he hoping for? He won Iowa and showed well in NH. He was never winning SC. I could have told him that months ago and saved him the time and you a couple of grand. His path was similar to Bernie's four years ago. He needed to command more camera time and fight from behind. He had the tools to give it a run.
No. Reach enough people to turn the tide in the second half of the primaries and pull off an upset. I really wanted to see what he would do in the midwest states. I also wanted to see him debate more.You mean fight for a contested convention?
Oh, sorry, thought you were talking about Bernie in 2016.No. Reach enough people to turn the tide in the second half of the primaries and pull off an upset. I really wanted to see what he would do in the midwest states. I also wanted to see him debate more.
“That is admittedly, and I do not deny it for a second, a tough road to climb, but it is not an impossible road to climb and we intend to fight for every vote in front of us and every delegate remaining,” Sanders told reporters.
“It is virtually impossible for Hillary Clinton to reach a majority of convention delegates by June 14, which is the last day a primary will be held, with pledged delegates alone,” he added. “She will need superdelegates to take her over the top at the convention in Philadelphia.
“In other words the convention will be a contested contest.”
I feel like we’ve reached the stage where everyone is like “I don’t like this guy but I have to vote for him so Trump loses.” Not sure that’s an ideal place to be although I get it.It was pretty sad seeing Pete's name on the ballot and not voting for him.. Despite the very cute Warren girl going door to door in the rain this AM, I ended up voting for Biden.
You just made the people without health insurance and mother earth sad.It was pretty sad seeing Pete's name on the ballot and not voting for him.. Despite the very cute Warren girl going door to door in the rain this AM, I ended up voting for Biden.
They'll be happier with Biden than 4 more years of Trump...You just made the people without health insurance and mother earth sad.
They'll behappierslightly less sad with Biden than 4 more years of Trump...
I think most of us do.I wish Pete was still running for President.
He just suspended his campaign instead of ending it right?Can he hop back in?