Godsbrother Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 yep. stick a fork in them, they're done. They should be sellers but they probably won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The Pirates managed to drop 5 games back in the standings over a 9 game stretch. That is pretty impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Godsbrother said: The Pirates managed to drop 5 games back in the standings over a 9 game stretch. That is pretty impressive! In all honesty this is probably a good thing for the team long term. They never had the talent to seriously contend this year. They need to be sellers. Here’s hoping they lose every game for the next week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 hours ago, fred_1_15301 said: In all honesty this is probably a good thing for the team long term. They never had the talent to seriously contend this year. They need to be sellers. Here’s hoping they lose every game for the next week! While I agree there is no point in being buyers this season there is little reason for optimism for next year or anytime. They may catch lightning in a bottle: a year where just everything breaks good for them, but as long a Nutting owns this team they are doomed for mediocrity or worse. Aside for a couple of seasons the last 25 years has been the same story for this team. They are ranked 27th out of 30 in spending and a quarter of that is taken by 4 players that aren't even playing. You just can't compete like that and if MLB doesn't care enough to do anything about it (salary cap, floor, etc,) they should contract the league to the teams that are willing to spend money to be competitive. Allowing teams to spend 5x the amount of others is just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiddLattimer Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 If they can pull off some of the prospects rumored from the Dodgers they'd be nuts not to take it. 2 or 3 of Lux, May, Ruiz and Smith would be a hell of a haul. Of course it could just be sports writer nonsense too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falguy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Beautiful park you have there in the Steel City! . I was there on Friday (Jul 19). Hotter and heck with no breeze but glad I got to see the park. Too bad the batters decided it was too hot as well. Enjoyed a couple dollar dogs and a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC_32 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Were there really people thinking this team should be anything but sellers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 10 hours ago, KiddLattimer said: If they can pull off some of the prospects rumored from the Dodgers they'd be nuts not to take it. 2 or 3 of Lux, May, Ruiz and Smith would be a hell of a haul. Of course it could just be sports writer nonsense too Who do the Dodgers want that badly lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiddLattimer Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 12 hours ago, fred_1_15301 said: Who do the Dodgers want that badly lol? Would help if I included the player name huh? 🤦♂️ Supposedly that's the rumor for Vazquez. Value spiked because he's so underpaid for 4y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, KiddLattimer said: Would help if I included the player name huh? 🤦♂️ Supposedly that's the rumor for Vazquez. Value spiked because he's so underpaid for 4y If that’s on the table for Vazquez, I would be ecstatic. Lux has been tearing the cover off the ball but not sure where he fits with the Dodgers. It’s great to see the Pirates in a free fall. They’re certain to be sellers now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 On 7/24/2019 at 9:17 AM, MAC_32 said: Were there really people thinking this team should be anything but sellers? I only care about what their management thinks and in the past they’ve refused to admit when they’re not serious contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Close to "worst team in baseball" territory here. I hope they sell anything and everything at the deadline. Just hit the restart button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 17 hours ago, fred_1_15301 said: Close to "worst team in baseball" territory here. I hope they sell anything and everything at the deadline. Just hit the restart button. They need a new owner. Nothing else matters IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Not sure what the Brewers see in the guy but I fully expect him to turn into Cy Young when playing the Pirates... Quote The Brewers have reached a deal to acquire right-hander Jordan Lylesfrom the division-rival Pirates, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (via Twitter). Milwaukee will send Double-A right-hander Cody Ponce to Pittsburgh in return, tweets Robert Murray of The Athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 One nice thing about the Bucs is that it doesn't take long to watch a game. Bucs up 1-0 in the first and before the 2nd inning is over they're losing 10-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 They need to get a haul similar to what they gave up for Archer .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said: They need to get a haul similar to what they gave up for Archer .... Nobody is dumb enough to pay that type of haul...................except for the Pirates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 52 minutes ago, fred_1_15301 said: Nobody is dumb enough to pay that type of haul...................except for the Pirates. I still cannot believe they made that trade. They give up Cutch and Cole and THEN decide this is the year to make an all-in move at the deadline?!? Not the years they were actually competitive, but the year they go on a fluky win streak amid fan protests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Reds just traded for Bauer. Now there is a small market team that actually has a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Losing streak over! CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!! Pretty entertaining fight last night. I'm not sure why the umpires allowed the teams to remain on the field so long after the initial melee. If I'm the umpires I tell each team they have 30 seconds to return to their dugouts and any player/coach still on the field is ejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Dickerson traded to Phillies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Annndddd the Pirates 1 game winning streak comes to an end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 So Bucs had all of these vet expiring pieces to trade and one big chip and all they do is get international money and a player to be named later for Dickerson?? Like does NH think this team can compete next season? Not like they will add any meaningful pieces. They are in a rebuild mode and ####ed it up last year with the archer trade. Now there is no direction or identity. I wonder what the offers were that he turned down. This is the worst ownership/front office combo in sports, save MAYBE the redskins, but at least they try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said: So Bucs had all of these vet expiring pieces to trade and one big chip and all they do is get international money and a player to be named later for Dickerson?? Like does NH think this team can compete next season? Not like they will add any meaningful pieces. They are in a rebuild mode and ####ed it up last year with the archer trade. Now there is no direction or identity. I wonder what the offers were that he turned down. This is the worst ownership/front office combo in sports, save MAYBE the redskins, but at least they try. My bet is they are blaming their pathetic showing this season on injuries. Yes they were hit hard but the team still sucks badly. The supposed strength was the pitching and it just isn't very good. The odds of this team being any good in the next couple of seasons is close to zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 On 8/1/2019 at 3:55 PM, Godsbrother said: My bet is they are blaming their pathetic showing this season on injuries. Yes they were hit hard but the team still sucks badly. The supposed strength was the pitching and it just isn't very good. The odds of this team being any good in the next couple of seasons is close to zero. It’s possible in the next 20 years they have a playoff team. Anything is possible. I was almost struck by lightning once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) The Pirates have lost 8 consecutive series now and are 4-21 since the all-star break. Projected over an entire year that would equate to a 26-136 season record which would be the second worst in MLB history after the Cleveland Spiders went 20-134 in 1899. It does not appear that Clint Hurdle, Ray Searage, Neal Huntington or Frank Coonelly are on the hot seat. Keep up the good work fellas!!! Edited August 8, 2019 by Godsbrother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBokonon Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Taillon's getting Tommy John surgery and missing 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 12:24 AM, McBokonon said: Taillon's getting Tommy John surgery and missing 2020. The news just keeps getting worse for this team. Does anyone think that a starting rotation of Musgrove, Williams, Archer, Agrazal/Brault and Keller in 2020 is a recipe for success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Sadly whether they had Taillon or not, they would need to add a lot of pitching. Does anyone here actually believe that’s going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 They all need to go. Everyone down to the scouts travel agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 So in yesterday's debacle Trevor Williams, arguably the "ace" of this staff, gives up 8 runs, all earned, on 6 hits (3 HRs), 3 BBs in 2 innings. His ERA is now 5.65 Over the weekend Huntington was trying to say the Pirates starting pitching can compete next season, IF they can fix Musgrove, Williams, AND Archer Brault pitches likes he did for a 4 or 5 game stretch this year over the course of an entire season Keller can pitch to the potential he showed in the minors PLUS they have Kuhl coming back from Tommy John surgery (with his impressive 4.37 lifetime ERA) they might be able to pick up an aging veteran pitcher or two and turn him around like they did with JA Happ THIS is his plan for 2020... Ay Caramba . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Godsbrother said: So in yesterday's debacle Trevor Williams, arguably the "ace" of this staff, gives up 8 runs, all earned, on 6 hits (3 HRs), 3 BBs in 2 innings. His ERA is now 5.65 Over the weekend Huntington was trying to say the Pirates starting pitching can compete next season, IF they can fix Musgrove, Williams, AND Archer Brault pitches likes he did for a 4 or 5 game stretch this year over the course of an entire season Keller can pitch to the potential he showed in the minors PLUS they have Kuhl coming back from Tommy John surgery (with his impressive 4.37 lifetime ERA) they might be able to pick up an aging veteran pitcher or two and turn him around like they did with JA Happ THIS is his plan for 2020... Ay Caramba . We once dreamed of a staff of Cole, Glasnow and Taillon. How far things have fallen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, fred_1_15301 said: We once dreamed of a staff of Cole, Glasnow and Taillon. How far things have fallen. The Pirates organization has proven time and again that they are unable to develop young pitching talent. Everyone involved in that aspect of the organization needs to go, starting with Ray Searage. He had a few old veterans that he turned around a few years ago but he has been a disaster since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Godsbrother said: The Pirates organization has proven time and again that they are unable to develop young pitching talent. Everyone involved in that aspect of the organization needs to go, starting with Ray Searage. He had a few old veterans that he turned around a few years ago but he has been a disaster since. Agreed. Searage has no clue how to adapt. He can do wonders for pitchers who fit into his program. However, he has no clue how to adapt when a pitcher may not fit. Didn't he try to turn Cole into a pitch-to-contact pitcher. What an idiot. The whole organization from top to bottom is completely incompetent. Look at these other small market teams that remain competitive every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Should have traded him while they could: Quote Pittsburgh Pirates all-star pitcher Felipe Vazquez was arrested this morning in Pennsylvania on some truly disturbing charges including solicitation of a 13-year-old girl. The 28-year-old closer -- considered one of the best pitchers in baseball -- was taken into custody in Pittsburgh stemming from an arrest warrant out of Florida. Officials say they were investigating allegations Vasquez had a sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl in Lee County, Florida. According to officials, the girl, now 15 years old, WAS continuing to have a relationship with Vasquez and had received a video in July from the MLB star performing a "sex act." Officials say Vasquez also sent the girl text messages suggesting they would meet for sex after the MLB season ended. Several electronic devices were seized from Vasquez's apartment in Pittsburgh during the investigation. Officials say Vasquez was arrested on 1 count of "computer pornography - solicitation of a child" and 1 count of "providing obscene material to minors." Officials say more charges could follow depending on what they find in the continuing investigation. Vasquez is a 2-time All-Star who was having a great season for the Pirates in 2019. He currently has a 1.65 E.R.A., 28 saves and 90 strikeouts. He signed a 4-year, $22.5 million contract in 2018. The good news is that contract will likely be invalidated and Nutting can put all of that money he is saving for bringing in new talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apalmer Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Godsbrother said: Should have traded him while they could: The good news is that contract will likely be invalidated and Nutting can put all of that money he is saving for bringing in new talent. Well, Crick will be happier now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Just now, apalmer said: Well, Crick will be happier now. so we have that going for us which is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Godsbrother said: Should have traded him while they could: The good news is that contract will likely be invalidated and Nutting can put all of that money he is saving for bringing in new talent. Or just put it in his pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 The nightmare never ends with this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Fire. Every. One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish eyes Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Who would ever want to play for this sorry franchise. It's criminal what Nutting has done and there is no end in sight as long as he is around. Bravo MLB, the worst professional sports league on earth. Does anyone really watch baseball anymore? How do these teams make money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Jenkins Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Cole is an absolute stud. Nice return there. Maybe if they kept the team together last year and made a move or two, they could have contended. Instead they are sellers pre-season and then trade their best prospects for a pitcher on the downswing. Brilliant. Meadows at .290 with 32 hr and 88rbi. Glasnow 6-1 in 10 starts with 65 strikeouts and a 2.03 era. Baz 3-2 in 17 starts with a 2.99 era and 87 strikeouts at A level WHAT A JOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said: Cole is an absolute stud. Nice return there. Maybe if they kept the team together last year and made a move or two, they could have contended. Instead they are sellers pre-season and then trade their best prospects for a pitcher on the downswing. Brilliant. Meadows at .290 with 32 hr and 88rbi. Glasnow 6-1 in 10 starts with 65 strikeouts and a 2.03 era. Baz 3-2 in 17 starts with a 2.99 era and 87 strikeouts at A level WHAT A JOKE You would think all these moves would be grounds to fire the GM. But nobody really cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 The fans care (yes there are a still a few of us left) but Nutting doesn’t give a crap about winning. i used to go to 15 games a year and even more when I was younger but I haven’t bought a ticket in three years. I’ve given up hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Godsbrother said: The fans care (yes there are a still a few of us left) but Nutting doesn’t give a crap about winning. i used to go to 15 games a year and even more when I was younger but I haven’t bought a ticket in three years. I’ve given up hope When I said “nobody really cares”, I wasn’t talking about the fans. I was talking about the people who could/should hold NH accountable. Cole is an ace (best pitcher in baseball actually). Glasnow was an ace before his injury and will be an ace next year. Meadows is one of the best young hitters in the game. And then they gave up a legit prospect on top of that. All for a guy who has been pretty bad for several years now. Honestly I can’t think of a worse trade. He should be gone at the end of the season but the people making that decision don’t give a lick about winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Glasnow pitched 3 innings, 0 ERs with 7 Ks today. This is his 2nd start coming off a serious injury. This is against the Boston Red Sox. That's who we gave up in a package including Meadows and our top pitching prospect for Chris ####### Archer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Encyclopedia Brown Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It was said on the Cubs broadcast that Hurdle says he will return in 2020. So there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eephus Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Encyclopedia Brown said: It was said on the Cubs broadcast that Hurdle says he will return in 2020. So there's that. With Bochy and Yost retiring, Hurdle would be the longest-tenured MLB manager. So there's another thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsbrother Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Yep. Nutting not about to pay Hurdle money for sitting at home AND pay for a new manager. Hey the Bucs eliminated the Cubs from the post-season last night so we have that going for us which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_1_15301 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 8:21 AM, Godsbrother said: Yep. Nutting not about to pay Hurdle money for sitting at home AND pay for a new manager. Hey the Bucs eliminated the Cubs from the post-season last night so we have that going for us which is nice. I gave up on baseball weeks ago (after I got my 3rd place prize in fantasy). I had no idea about last night. That's actually an excellent consolation prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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