Dynasty & Redraft: WR Diontae Johnson, Steelers

[Sam Quentin 253]

I could have gone with Corey Davis...

[rockaction 23,055]

There he is! One catch for six yards. Got us in the scorebook after all. 

[heckmanm 4,351]

Now sweating a game vs a guy that started Edelman, Hooper and Sanders

[rockaction 23,055]

2 minutes ago, heckmanm said:

Now sweating a game vs a guy that started Edelman, Hooper and Sanders

I love when people are on top of their teams. My dynasty opponent WOULD NOT TRADE NEVER for a QB this week even though his only viable one is on bye.

So, I likely win. Problem is, his refusal just makes it easier for him to tank and beat me out for non-playoff seeding (the low kind).

[The Frankman 3,301]

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Diontae Johnson caught 1-of-3 targets for six yards in the Steelers' Week 8 win over the Ravens. 

Johnson left the game for half of the first quarter with a hamstring issue. He returned and didn't seem hobbled, but was uninvolved in the Pittsburgh passing attack. Coming into the game with a team-high 22 percent target share, Johnson saw just three of Ben Roethlisberger's 33 attempts against Baltimore. If healthy, Johnson should serve as a low-end WR2 play next week against Dallas. 

- Rotoworld

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by The Frankman

[dipandglide 372]

The undisputed WR1 in Pit they said. Hmmmm

[Gold Fox 16]

I am so glad that I got outbid at the auction on this guy. He would have demolished my season.
 

I wanted him on my team, but I didn’t save enough at the end of the draft. He’ a very good football player, but not a good fantasy option. If another team cuts him, I would add him to my bench... but I would hesitate to play him.

[Broncobiv 46]

Any word on Diontae in practice this week, regarding his injury? He'd be a great start vs Dallas this week. 

[geneyus 28]

1 hour ago, Broncobiv said:

Any word on Diontae in practice this week, regarding his injury? He'd be a great start vs Dallas this week. 

Wasn't on the injury report today.

[Dizzy 802]

2 hours ago, Broncobiv said:

Any word on Diontae in practice this week, regarding his injury? He'd be a great start vs Dallas this week. 

Yes, hopefully nobody tackles him... or asks him to run fast... or

[Ardbeg4ever 46]

All systems go for "Fragiletron"  (Fra-gee-lay-tron)?  He's a major receiver.

Edited November 5, 2020 by Ardbeg4ever

[LawFitz 1,071]

Start all Stillers this week. 

[Mark Football 172]

3 hours ago, Ardbeg4ever said:

All systems go for "Fragiletron"  (Fra-gee-lay-tron)?  He's a major receiver.

He must be Italian.

[Faust 5,013]

 

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Diontae Johnson was a full participant for Wednesday's practice.

It's a positive sign after Johnson was sidelined for a short period in Sunday's win over the Ravens. He's expected to enter Week 9 at full strength in a tremendous spot against Dallas' sieve of a secondary.

SOURCE: Steelers Depot on Twitter

Nov 5, 2020, 10:01 AM ET

 

 

[Ghost Rider 6,203]

3 catches for 23 yards so far. Monster day given his recent history.  

[Milkman 2,348]

Ben hurt now too but still playing. Diontae using all his run good to stay in the game. Lol

[Milkman 2,348]

He's so electric with the ball. 

[KingPrawn 1,660]

Should have been a much bigger day. Big Ben threw behind him on a short pass and johnson had nothing in front of him for a 70 yard TD

[Milkman 2,348]

Sick first half. 

[ffmail4me 767]

So glad I didn't bench him anywhere....he's just too good, even after a banged up or bad week

[JamboTaylor 17]

If he’s playing you play him

[KingPrawn 1,660]

Didn't see the game but he had a terrific 1st half. What happened in the 2nd half? Shift in coverage? Injury? I'd like to think the dropoff was because they were up big but JuJu and Claypool racked up 2nd half stats.

[Milkman 2,348]

1 hour ago, KingPrawn said:

Didn't see the game but he had a terrific 1st half. What happened in the 2nd half? Shift in coverage? Injury? I'd like to think the dropoff was because they were up big but JuJu and Claypool racked up 2nd half stats.

My assumption is they moved coverage his way but won't know for sure without watching the All 22 tape. 

[Buck Bradcanon 1,434]

[tombonneau 985]

I lose when this guy is in my lineup, and I lose when I leave him on the bench. Just end it already.

[Dizzy 802]

36 minutes ago, tombonneau said:

I lose when this guy is in my lineup, and I lose when I leave him on the bench. Just end it already.

It is just a matter of health with this dude. He's had 5 games where he started AND finished in 2020... averaged almost 12 targets/game.

Can't do anything about injuries that occur in-game, but if he's healthy going in? Crazy to leave him on the bench... arguably the WR1 in a prolific passing game.

[FUBAR 3,203]

42 minutes ago, tombonneau said:

I lose when this guy is in my lineup, and I lose when I leave him on the bench. Just end it already.

If it helps, I started him even in his good game and still lost.

Edited November 16, 2020 by FUBAR

[skinsrule05 133]

2 hours ago, Dizzy said:

It is just a matter of health with this dude. He's had 5 games where he started AND finished in 2020... averaged almost 12 targets/game.

Can't do anything about injuries that occur in-game, but if he's healthy going in? Crazy to leave him on the bench... arguably the WR1 in a prolific passing game.

Yes, his volume is too high to ever sit him when healthy.

[rockaction 23,055]

When he's healthy and has no major issues going into the week during practice, he's on auto-start for me. And I drafted Thielen, Godwin, Robinson, and have Aiyuk in the league I speak of. It's a start 3WR league, but Johnson, when healthy? In there.

[Acrobat7 145]

It might be a strange comparison, but he gives my this LaDainian Tomlinson feeling when he is in a 1on1 with a defender. You just know that he will make him miss without even being touched. It is a thing of beauty.

[tombonneau 985]

2 hours ago, FUBAR said:

If it helps, I started him even in his good game and still lost.

It helps, thanks.

[turkishkamel 70]

10 first half targets. The dude is amazing, as long as he's on the field. 

[rockaction 23,055]

2 minutes ago, turkishkamel said:

10 first half targets. The dude is amazing, as long as he's on the field. 

Pfffft. Compiler.

[rockaction 23,055]

I'm just kidding, by the way. Looks great.

[Milkman 2,348]

Great game again for Diontae! Just getting peppered with targets again. 

[Jail 53]

Did he make it out unscathed? When I was watching Redzone I thought I heard one of the announcers say something about him leaving the game, but then he must have returned.  Anyone know what happened? Hoping I just heard them wrong. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Jail

[SoBeDad 2,243]

I've seen Claypool double and even triple covered on some of his TD catches. The safety and CB couldn't stop him on the 31 yard TD down the right sideline yesterday. The attention paid to Claypool especially on deep patterns has to benefit Johnson and others.

[Milkman 2,348]

3 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Can’t trust this guy.

I'm not sure I'd beat that drum quite yet. He did, all by himself, cause me to lose 3 games. Which indirectly ruined my season this year. Maybe he was just getting unlucky, maybe he's injury prone. Jury is still out imo. 

[Faust 5,013]

 

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Diontae Johnson caught 8-of-13 targets for 46 yards in the Steelers' Week 12 win over the Ravens.

Those 13 targets led the team. On the heels of back-to-back 110-plus yard performances, Johnson pieced together a befuddling game against Baltimore with arguably three or four drops that left multiple chunk gains on the field. Johnson is a great player with an extremely promising career ahead of him, but these inconsistencies pop up a bit too often and limit the total efficiency of the offense. Still, you live with the miscues because Johnson is capable of the spectacular - just not on Wednesday afternoon football. He is an easy start against Washington in Week 13.

Dec 2, 2020, 7:12 PM ET

 

 

[FUBAR 3,203]

On 11/23/2020 at 8:05 AM, SoBeDad said:

I've seen Claypool double and even triple covered on some of his TD catches. The safety and CB couldn't stop him on the 31 yard TD down the right sideline yesterday. The attention paid to Claypool especially on deep patterns has to benefit Johnson and others.

The combination of these two, juju, and even E² makes for a scary offense.

Maybe not Chief scary, but as close as they come when firing on all cylinders.

[Cobbler1 1,097]

He was really bad today. But so good overall. Happy 100% ownership guy right here.

[rockaction 23,055]

4 minutes ago, FUBAR said:

The combination of these two, juju, and even E² makes for a scary offense.

Maybe not Chief scary, but as close as they come when firing on all cylinders.

The first sentence is dead on, and I'd like to offer up the real difference maker which is Mahomes' deep ball, his youth, and his mobility. Roethlisberger was always great at extended plays and going deep, but a little bit is lost with age.

Steelers overall have better depth options in pass catching than the Chiefs do, IMO. If the AFC runs through Pittsburgh, I would love to see a KC/Pitt matchup in the SFC Championship. This is a bad year to not have two byes, as both teams have been so dominant.

[FUBAR 3,203]

17 minutes ago, rockaction said:

The first sentence is dead on, and I'd like to offer up the real difference maker which is Mahomes' deep ball, his youth, and his mobility. Roethlisberger was always great at extended plays and going deep, but a little bit is lost with age.

Steelers overall have better depth options in pass catching than the Chiefs do, IMO. If the AFC runs through Pittsburgh, I would love to see a KC/Pitt matchup in the SFC Championship. This is a bad year to not have two byes, as both teams have been so dominant.

I'm definitely cheering against that (go titans) but that seems likely. 

The Chiefs shouldn't have much trouble with Miami or Indy but you never know.

[rockaction 23,055]

5 minutes ago, FUBAR said:

I'm definitely cheering against that (go titans) but that seems likely. 

The Chiefs shouldn't have much trouble with Miami or Indy but you never know.

The team I see giving either of those two fits is exactly that Titans team. I think they're really underrated, and if they're healthy, they can make a serious playoff run. It's gonna get colder and Tennessee has their thumper at running back. KC and Pittsburgh lack that type of RB.

[dmac37 411]

1 hour ago, Cobbler1 said:

He was really bad today. But so good overall. Happy 100% ownership guy right here.

He killed me in a must win game I was going against JuJu head to head today. First time I have been disappointed in his play, still think he is undervalued for long term dynasty value.

[travdogg 2,998]

2 hours ago, rockaction said:

The team I see giving either of those two fits is exactly that Titans team. I think they're really underrated, and if they're healthy, they can make a serious playoff run. It's gonna get colder and Tennessee has their thumper at running back. KC and Pittsburgh lack that type of RB.

Along those same lines, I could see Cleveland being an issue. They run the ball even better than Tennessee, and probably have a better defense than the Titans when Garrett isn't out with COVID. Of course Tannehill>Mayfield usually.

[rockaction 23,055]

27 minutes ago, travdogg said:

Along those same lines, I could see Cleveland being an issue. They run the ball even better than Tennessee, and probably have a better defense than the Titans when Garrett isn't out with COVID. Of course Tannehill>Mayfield usually.

I had the same thought about Cleveland, and the boldface font from the quote is why I thought Tennessee was the biggest threat. But I shouldn't forget Baltimore, either. They hung with the Steelers today despite serious losses in manpower. Just Tennessee strikes me as the most complete offense out of the three. Defensively, I think Cleveland's front gives teams fits with Garrett and Richardson and others and is probably better than Tennessee's front. So yeah, if they can make it through the year, the NFL has a really interesting situation for their playoffs.

[Buck Bradcanon 1,434]

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Jarad Evans

⁦‪@PFF_Jarad⁩

Most targets since Week 9:

1. Diontae Johnson - 49
2. Tyreek Hill - 46
3. Keenan Allen - 44
4. Davante Adams - 41
5. Chase Claypool - 38
6. DeVante Parker - 35

 

12/2/20, 7:23 PM

 

 

[Dizzy 802]

14 hours ago, dmac37 said:

He killed me in a must win game I was going against JuJu head to head today. First time I have been disappointed in his play, still think he is undervalued for long term dynasty value.

Feels like we saw his floor yesterday, and all due to DJ... dropped a likely TD, dropped a big gainer that fell right in his lap... the 10+ targets seems like a guarantee at this point. Imagine a game where the Steelers are playing catch-up/loss. He could see 20 targets with some garbage time.

[Cobbler1 1,097]

1 minute ago, Dizzy said:

Feels like we saw his floor yesterday, and all due to DJ... dropped a likely TD, dropped a big gainer that fell right in his lap... the 10+ targets seems like a guarantee at this point. Imagine a game where the Steelers are playing catch-up/loss. He could see 20 targets with some garbage time.

He had another deeper td in his hands but it got knocked away. Should have caught that too. He was also open by several yards and Ben made a poor throw allowing the db to get back in the picture.