2019-20 NBA Thread: new forum, same great taste

[Doug B 6,582]

16 minutes ago, mr. furley said:

crazy how he went from 6'9" and 275 in college to 6'6" and 310 in the pros

I had thought he was a legit 6’8”. Local reporters all say 6’6” now, though.

[wikkidpissah 18,145]

1 hour ago, Doug B said:

I had thought he was a legit 6’8”. Local reporters all say 6’6” now, though.

i compared him to other players on the floor last nite - he's 6'8

favorite Zion stat - ahead of Ben Simmons in career treys

[mr. furley 12,231]

1 hour ago, wikkidpissah said:

i compared him to other players on the floor last nite - he's 6'8

favorite Zion stat - ahead of Ben Simmons in career treys

all the NBA pundits i've heard talk about him say he's 6'5" or 6'6"   

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

zion was 6'6" at his official nba measurement.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/pelicans-rookie-zion-williamsons-official-nba-height-is-shorter-than-he-was-listed-at-duke-per-report/

[wikkidpissah 18,145]

well, he's significantly taller than Lonzo Ball, who' s 6'6

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

5 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

well, he's significantly taller than Lonzo Ball, who' s 6'6

https://lonzowire.usatoday.com/2019/10/04/are-lonzo-ball-and-zion-williamson-the-same-height/

[Doug B 6,582]

Doesn't really matter if Zion can do the job. Sir Charles was listed at 6'6", but was really more like 6'4".

[modogg 4,699]

if i was a Lakers' fan, i think that would annoy me the most would be other Lakers' fans

[need2know 6,196]

Sixers looks great right now

[modogg 4,699]

Sixers up 20 over the Lakers without Embiid and Josh Richardson (Zaire Smith too, but that may not be as important). I was hoping this would be the finals match-up

[modogg 4,699]

I think Lebron literally just took 5 steps to tie Kobe for 3rd all time. Not joking..

[Capella 29,572]

2 minutes ago, modogg said:

Sixers up 20 over the Lakers without Embiid and Josh Richardson (Zaire Smith too, but that may not be as important). I was hoping this would be the finals match-up

You expect the sixers to be in the finals?

[modogg 4,699]

2 minutes ago, Capella said:

You expect the sixers to be in the finals?

if healthy, i can see it 

[modogg 4,699]

Some great officiating in this Sixers' game. 

[hxperson 452]

1 hour ago, modogg said:

if healthy, i can see it 

Sixers without Embiid are 0-2 against an "isn't much there" Raptors team, and are behind them in the standings despite all the injuries that team has had, yet you expect them to make the finals?

[modogg 4,699]

1 minute ago, hxperson said:

Sixers without Embiid are 0-2 against an "isn't much there" Raptors team, and are behind them in the standings despite all the injuries that team has had, yet you expect them to make the finals?

Raptors are a cute story this year. Great regular season team. 

[hxperson 452]

2 minutes ago, modogg said:

Raptors are a cute story this year. Great regular season team. 

and yet the Sixers are 1-2 against them.  I'm not saying they are a contender at all.  I'm saying I don't see the Sixers as one either

[Capella 29,572]

10 hours ago, modogg said:

if healthy, i can see it 

You might be the biggest homer on this board. 

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,478]

On 1/26/2020 at 6:38 AM, Capella said:

You might be the biggest homer on this board. 

 Might

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,478]

Rockets go into Utah w/o Harden, Westbrook, and Capela and win.

D'Antoni may have his faults and unlikely to win an NBA title as a head coach but looked very smart going smallball with 6'6 Danuel House at C. Eric Gordon went for 50.

Edited January 28, 2020 by Craig_MiamiFL

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

On 1/25/2020 at 11:55 PM, hxperson said:

and yet the Sixers are 1-2 against them.  I'm not saying they are a contender at all.  I'm saying I don't see the Sixers as one either

in the first game, I believe that Nurse went to some zone and different defensive looks that caused the Sixers problems.  Second game, the sixers handled everything that Nurse could throw at them (which was in Philly).  Third game, they did not have Embiid and Josh Richardson got hurt right away.  They still were right there at the end and honestly just missed some shots.  They got the looks they needed at the end.

Sixers are still just 2 games out of the 2 seed.  If they get home court, in the first 2 rounds, very hard for me to imagine them not getting to the ECF.  If healthy, I think they could now win on the road against anyone, maybe with the exception of Milwaukee.

They have shown that their high is as high as anyone in the East against all of these contenders this year.  But they are of course a very high variance team.  Between the injuries, road woes, turnovers, and weird roster, they have a lot of ways it can go wrong.  But at full strength and at their peak, they can certainly make it to the finals.

[kodycutter 858]

The "Mecca" of basketball.  

Knicks fans had never been so loud with their frustration as the "Sell the team" chant Wednesday at MSG. Even as MSG piped in music to silence the fans, and James Dolan walked out.

 

[Gr00vus 11,826]

2 hours ago, kodycutter said:

The "Mecca" of basketball.  

Knicks fans had never been so loud with their frustration as the "Sell the team" chant Wednesday at MSG. Even as MSG piped in music to silence the fans, and James Dolan walked out.

 

I've said before how I find it surprising that Knicks fans have put up with it for so long. NYC isn't exactly known for being a patient place.

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,478]

Quote

 

@ShamsCharania

Sources: 2020 NBA All-Star reserves:

East: Jimmy Butler, Kyle Lowry, Ben Simmons, Khris Middleton, Jayson Tatum  , Bam Adebayo  , Domas Sabonis

West: Damian Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Nikola Jokic, Rudy Gobert, Brandon Ingram  , Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul

 

 

[RUSF18 3,817]

3 hours ago, Gr00vus said:

I've said before how I find it surprising that Knicks fans have put up with it for so long. NYC isn't exactly known for being a patient place.

Corporate buying of seats goes a long way. I probably have 30 Knick fan friends and only one I know that “puts up with it”. Everyone else has been checked out for years. 

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

the ATL black jerseys are pretty fresh , as well as their key and baseline graphics

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

4 hours ago, Gr00vus said:

I've said before how I find it surprising that Knicks fans have put up with it for so long. NYC isn't exactly known for being a patient place.

i mean, the owner is shameless and brainless and has more money than god.  they're not happy, but not much that they can do really

[Gr00vus 11,826]

6 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

i mean, the owner is shameless and brainless and has more money than god.  they're not happy, but not much that they can do really

Seems like they keep going to the games, buying merchandise, etc. I'd probably stop doing that if I were in their place. As @RUSF18 mentioned, maybe it's all corporate.  I mean, seemed like a pretty full house last night screaming for an ownership change at the game. If this was, say, "prime" Clippers, that arena would have had about 5000 people in it - and about 4629 would have been Griz fans.

Edited January 31, 2020 by Gr00vus

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

1 minute ago, Gr00vus said:

Seems like they keep going to the games, buying merchandise, etc. I'd probably stop doing that if I were in their place. As @RUSF18 mentioned, maybe it's all corporate.

yeah, that plus NY's got eleventy billion people so there are always 20,000 people who want to check out MSG or a visiting team or just see a game.

[Chemical X 5,693]

it’s amazing dolan owns the rangers too.  

[Long Ball Larry 14,288]

jesus, trae off the ####### hook tonight

[need2know 6,196]

Pains me to say this but philly isn't doing anything this year.  Cant do anything on the road.  Turnovers like crazy.

[need2know 6,196]

2 hours ago, Long Ball Larry said:

the ATL black jerseys are pretty fresh , as well as their key and baseline graphics

Ugly as hell imo

[RUSF18 3,817]

1 hour ago, Chemical X said:

it’s amazing dolan owns the rangers too.  

It’s remarkable. Thankfully there’s a ton of crossover but I really feel for the Knicks-only segment. 

[jvdesigns2002 3,138]

I really love and appreciated how the Clippers paid hommage to Kobe and the crash victims before tip off tonight.   Was really touching and I thought it was really well done.  It was definitely hard to hold back the tears. 

[jvdesigns2002 3,138]

Just saw the Eastern Conference all stars.  I personally feel  like Beal should have made it in over Taytum by a moderate margin.   I know his team isn’t winning—but he’s legit balling this year.  

[trader jake 1,379]

4 minutes ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

Just saw the Eastern Conference all stars.  I personally feel  like Beal should have made it in over Taytum by a moderate margin.   I know his team isn’t winning—but he’s legit balling this year.  

Tough to argue with Beal's counting stats but he's playing for a team inspired by Paul Westhead's Nuggets squads from the early 90's.  Isaiah Thomas even resembles Michael Adams a bit.

...

Glad Khris Middleton is getting some recognition with another All-Star spot.  In the Bucks last game he put up 51 points on 26 shots.  He's only the 49th player in NBA history to do that in a game.  Also, on the season he's over 20pts/gm with 50/40/90 shooting percentages.  Only four players have done that for an entire season (Bird, Nowitzki, Curry, & Durant).  Middleton is also doing all that while playing 29min/gm.

[Brunell4MVP 837]

11 hours ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

Just saw the Eastern Conference all stars.  I personally feel  like Beal should have made it in over Taytum by a moderate margin.   I know his team isn’t winning—but he’s legit balling this year.  

This.  Beal is playing great.  To do what he is doing playing with the likes of Bryant, Smith and Bertans (which are nice pieces, but on most good teams they are no more than bench players with a certain skill set).  Beal gets double teamed every time he touches the ball.  Frankly he should not have signed with Washington.  There are a lot of team that need a 2 that can load it up like he can.  He could be putting up 35+ per night if he only had one other player to help him out.

 

 

[SayWhat? 4,088]

Is it just me, or is Lowry waaaaaaay overreacting to the fan “pushing” him last night?  Seemed like a legit “let me help boost you off my lap and back onto the court” more than anything even remotely resembling ill intent from the fan.  I get that the push from that Warriors investor a couple months back, one that seemed laced with ill intent (and idiocy), may have skewed Lowry’s perception.  But my word does this seem like a non-event that’s being made into something.  
 

Link with video

Edited January 31, 2020 by SayWhat?

[modogg 4,699]

so is there anyway we can just disband the Knicks franchise, or at least just relegate it to the G-League for a few seasons. As a fan of a team that just a few years ago had a 10-win season, this crap from Peyton is just about as deuchy as it gets. And Randle acting tough just kind of caps it all off. G-League please:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZmnTpy4yI

 

[Capella 29,572]

I don’t think we as a nation get to see Dame enough 

[General Malaise 26,429]

10 minutes ago, Capella said:

I don’t think we as a nation get to see Dame enough 

He's awesome.  I'm rewinding to the start of the 3rd so my 15 year old who just got home from his basketball game can watch and appreciate Dame with me while we still get to enjoy him and more importantly, enjoy him together.  In a few years, he'll be on his own and Dame will be on the Warriors.

[Capella 29,572]

9 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

He's awesome.  I'm rewinding to the start of the 3rd so my 15 year old who just got home from his basketball game can watch and appreciate Dame with me while we still get to enjoy him and more importantly, enjoy him together.  In a few years, he'll be on his own and Dame will be on the Warriors.

 hope that doesn’t happen. 

[Capella 29,572]

I temporarily changed the thread title to 2019-20 NBA Thread: Dame celebrates late-era Kobe by shooting Lakers to a loss

 

...but thought somebody here might take it serious so I removed it. I thought it was funny though. 

[General Malaise 26,429]

13 minutes ago, Capella said:

I temporarily changed the thread title to 2019-20 NBA Thread: Dame celebrates late-era Kobe by shooting Lakers to a loss

 

...but thought somebody here might take it serious so I removed it. I thought it was funny though. 

I laughed.  

Dame loved Kobe.  Greatest way to honor him was to ball the way he did tonight in Kobe's home.  

[strykerpks 3,971]

On 1/30/2020 at 10:58 PM, trader jake said:

Glad Khris Middleton is getting some recognition with another All-Star spot.  In the Bucks last game he put up 51 points on 26 shots.  He's only the 49th player in NBA history to do that in a game.  Also, on the season he's over 20pts/gm with 50/40/90 shooting percentages.  Only four players have done that for an entire season (Bird, Nowitzki, Curry, & Durant).  Middleton is also doing all that while playing 29min/gm.

Note he did 51 without Giannis, and against the Bullets. Totes homer here but KMid's splits are very similar to Klay's, according to Milwaukee twitter. Not sure which year the numbers are from but Middleton is really becoming a fantastic #2. It is what it is in small town Milwaukee. Glad to see him get some respect. Now do it more in the playoffs (ahem Bledsoe too)

[trader jake 1,379]

8 hours ago, strykerpks said:

Totes homer here but KMid's splits are very similar to Klay's, according to Milwaukee twitter. 

Both Middleton and Thompson play defense too.  This tends to get mentioned late in too many player discussions.

[Kev4029 1,207]

Michael Porter Jr is legit and his athleticism is slowly improving. Malone still isn't playing him enough but he's averaging 20/11/2 per 36 on .609 TS. He's kind of a crappy defender but he shows flashes on being a pretty decent weak side shot blocker and if he ends up being a full time PF he has the frame and feet to be effective if not especially good there. A Murray/Jokic/Porter starting lineup no matter who the other two are is always going to struggle but they'll be fun.

 

Btw, the Nuggets just beat the Bucks on the road missing 3 starters and their 7th man. If they could trade some of their flotsam (Beasley/Craig/Hernangomez/picks) for an improvement on what Harris/Craig/Beasley have provided this year, I think they might be a more legitimate contender than expected.

[wikkidpissah 18,145]

17 minutes ago, Kev4029 said:

Michael Porter Jr is legit and his athleticism is slowly improving. Malone still isn't playing him enough but he's averaging 20/11/2 per 36 on .609 TS. He's kind of a crappy defender but he shows flashes on being a pretty decent weak side shot blocker and if he ends up being a full time PF he has the frame and feet to be effective if not especially good there. A Murray/Jokic/Porter starting lineup no matter who the other two are is always going to struggle but they'll be fun.

 

Btw, the Nuggets just beat the Bucks on the road missing 3 starters and their 7th man. If they could trade some of their flotsam (Beasley/Craig/Hernangomez/picks) for an improvement on what Harris/Craig/Beasley have provided this year, I think they might be a more legitimate contender than expected.

more like saloon door. too slow for 3, too weak for 5, not an ideal 4 for a 5 like the Joker. but he got game

[Kev4029 1,207]

3 hours ago, wikkidpissah said:

more like saloon door. too slow for 3, too weak for 5, not an ideal 4 for a 5 like the Joker. but he got game

Not ideally defensively for sure. But offensively, pretty perfect of he can take what he's doing in 15 mpg and take it to 34 mpg.