dkp993
Footballguy
Damn Sho, how does that even happen? Not even half the letters are correct. There’s spelling errors then there’s covfefe. This falls into the latter.
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cosjobs
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Hey, tbh, I'm a pretty big fan of yours. I have no doubt you did it without malice. But I urge you to show the statement to some women you respect and see what they think.
(She also has the Hillary cackle going on.)
Leave it to the experts? I prefer to educate myself and there are a lot of smart people out there that might be able to help. Guys like this know where to get stuff like this. Keeping it from the general public is dumb.
Sure. So is he saying things falsely or do you believe him when he said Trump isn't responsible for his beliefs?
No doubt.
SaintsInDome2006
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I think it’s both possible for me to believe that he’s a deceiver and intends to cause harm with this document, but also acknowledge that white supremacism preexisted Trump and that he probably was before he became a Trump supporter. My point is about the logical conclusions he wants people to reach from that.
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Sure. And he was ignited by the Democrats first debate, promising health care to all illegal immigrants. Plenty of blame to go around if we want to do that. We shouldn't do that.
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Who he voted for and placing blame on the president for this are two different things. It doesn't matter what people say in this forum, but, CNN has been doing the latter all morning. That's disgusting.
Sheriff Bart
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cosjobs
Footballguy
When someone constantly implies they are taking the high ground, it makes me wonder about their compulsion to say it rather than let their actions speak for themselves.
"According to Facebook's ad archive, Trump has run around 2,200 FB ads since May 2018 mentioning the word "invasion." Scrolling through, all of them seem to be about immigration."
https://mobile.twitter.com/natijomartinez/status/1158049182877458433
This is how many people get the news.
https://mobile.twitter.com/natijomartinez/status/1158049182877458433
This is how many people get the news.
badmojo1006
Footballguy
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Yeah, it was tongue in cheek. Maybe when he’s done deleting some of his tweets he’ll address the American public on how he plans to move forward in keeping us safe.
Its pretty amazing how something like the President of the United States addressing the nation used to be a given after a day like yesterday, and now it’s a given that he absolutely won’t.
I’m 42 years old, and I’m an independent. I’ve voted for both republicans and democrats over the course of my adult life (I didn’t vote for either Trump or Hilary) and I’ve supported the President whether I voted for him or not. I gave Trump a chance for about a year and a half. But I just can’t anymore. He’s an embarrassment to our country. The sad part is that by saying this I’ll automatically get labeled as a socialist (if the 2020 choice is Trump vs. Sanders or Warren, I’ll be staying home again). Sad times we’re living in. But hey, at least my 401k is in good shape.
Cowboysfan8
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badmojo1006
Footballguy
Doesn't matter whether he created it or reposted it from somebody else, it is an awful post
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Zow
Footballguy
It’s amazing to me that your sentiment isn’t shared by more. Seems like the rational/reasonable response from a independent or standard republican. Even if one appreciates his policies I don’t understand how a rational person who pays a moderate level of attention isn’t embarrassed by the guy and realize that he’s an idiot.
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The General
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Back at you Cos.
No worries being called out if I’m being a jerk. I’ll respectfully disagree here (my mother is actually the one who pointed out the laugh and drew the Hillary comparison - she caucused for Hillary and is a big fan of Kamala).
It is just s style thing and not of importance. It is juvenile of me point out but I don’t think sexist.
Point taken however.
Widbil83
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The disgusting field of Democrat Presidential candidates didn’t let us down either. CNN paraded them out one after another parroting their crazy hateful talking points. What a shameless bunch.
GoBirds
Footballguy
That’s fine, wonder away.....not sure how posts like this help the thread but thanks for your opinion. Based on track record I don’t think anyone is surprised on where you would take sides.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Trumps rhetoric has been hateful. And should be talked about. As should the inaction by the GOP led senate on gun bulls that passed the house.
As should the fbi report on conspiracy theories leading to terrorism. As should the amount of terrorist attacks and mass shootings related to white nationalism.
So care to point out exactly what they said that was so terrible?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Hilarious when Trump fans cry about the other side being too mean when their hero spouts crap on Twitter 24/7.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
No, it really doesn't. Everyone is responsible for themselves. We've become a society trying to play gotcha with Trump letting him dictate things. Congress could do a ton to fix the gun issue if they were willing to negotiate with either and both sides give in on something. Neither side will because everything is about winning. It's awful and over half the population is okay with it because they can say "But Trump".
I couldn't disagree more. And a great example is this idiot El Paso shooting with "MAGA" all over his Twitter feed/profile.
The President should hold a level of class and not rile people up to commit violence.
I think you have his story wrong. His tipping point was when all the Democrats said they would give free health care to illegal immigrants. That's what got him riled up. Not some Trump tweet.
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GoBirds
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You can honestly say that's Trump's rhetoric against immigrants had nothing to do with this shooter's mindset/view?
Have you read his manifesto? How are you coming to your conclusions?
It certainly doesn't help, but how I understand it, it should be way down the list. People making it priority one aren't seeing the forest through the trees.
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Ramblin Wreck
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No kidding the President should have more class. I've acknowledged that multiple times. You seem to be focused only on that one thing and until he does then everyone else can behave however they want because the President does. Congrats, that's why we're all at the point we are in this society. The President isn't the only one that's divisive. Congress is divisive. The MAGA guys are divisive. The lefty libs must own everyone with their racist and sexist accusations over every situation are divisive. It's all Trump's fault, right? Guess what? Ain't nothing changing with guns while society continues to be so divisive and insists on winning every single god dang argument and issue with each other. Don't act shocked at the next violent act or the next one or the next one.
I asked earlier but got crickets. What is the left willing to give the right in return for much tighter gun control? Or even gun ban?
Why are you so focused on the left giving something in order to get better gun laws? Everyone on both sides should be focused on stopping these mass shootings. It's not a matter of what the left will give up. The right should be disgusted by these shootings too and offering up suggestions on how to stop it instead of the tired "he had mental illness" excuse.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Especially if you look at any polling in the issue. The reason it wont get through McConnell and the senate is $$$ they get from the gun lobby and how scared the GOP is of that lobby.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Because politics are about negotiation and give and take. The right believes people murder people not guns and there isn't a gun problem. They also get a crap ton of money from the NRA (yeah yeah I know the Dems never take money from outside interests). So the left is never going to shame the right into doing what they want done. And by the way, I'm as anti-gun as anyone on this board and if I were king for a day I'd ban them all. But this isn't about me or you. You gotta give something to get something. To save the kids, right?
The General
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Ramblin Wreck
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The General
Footballguy
There are 2 bills in that link that passed in the House with Republicans voting for them.
Do you think these should be passed?
Here’s a quick summary of what they do:
“One bill, H.R. 8, would require background checks for private transactions, such as purchases online and at gun shows. Currently, only federally licensed firearms dealers, importers and manufacturers are required to conduct background checks on customers under federal law. (Twenty states and D.C. have already expanded background checks to include at least some private sales.)
The other bill, H.R. 1112, would extend to at least 10 days the amount of time firearms dealers must wait for a response from the background check system before the sale can proceed. Currently, they can make the sale if they haven’t received a response in three days”
Man In The Box
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In my perfect world, the Dems would sacrifice their push for free healthcare for all, and on a smaller scale, reparations in exchange for gun control. It won’t happen though.
This would be win-win for them because those are the things that are going to cost them the 2020 election, and they don’t even realize it. I don’t think the majority of the country want those things.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
I’m all for passing things like this but let’s be honest.....these bills aren’t going to stop a thing. Acting like these bills are what caused these events is political theater.
Widbil83
Footballguy
When Left Wing Terrorist and Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer James Hodgkinson shot up the Republican Congressional baseball practice (thank god he was a terrible shot) the Republicans didn’t pin any of the blame on the other side. Even though his motives were well known. It’s just incredible the depths to which these Democrat candidates sunk on this. I would say more but I don’t want any softies on Team D reporting me before the season. Little walk down memory lane here-
https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homepage2/james-hodgkinson-profile/index.html
The General
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Nobody said anything close to that.
Its just a sign that Mitch and the GOP and Trump won't even try.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Because it was truely one messed up guy.
Not a pattern of behavior like we have with white nationalism right now.
And IIRC many complaining so much now bashing the left and Bernie for that guy and still bring it up as you did hear. While complaining its bad to point out rhetoric from Trump is bad and white nationalism is a major problem right now.
And its been asked...specifically what have the candidates said that is so bad?
also Bernies reaction to that guy?
"I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign," Sanders said. "I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be: Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms. Real change can only come about through nonviolent action, and anything else runs against our most deeply held American values."
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GoBirds
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I think you are looking for something to point fingers over that doesn’t do squat if it does get passed. I’m fine with banning assault rifles but honestly that won’t stop these either. I think @Ramblin Wreck makes a good point that if Dems are serious about it come together and make some kind of deal that gives both sides something they want. It’s DC and politicians are worthless, if something is going to get done both sides need a way to save face. We can sit here on our moral high horse all day yelling what should happen but he makes a good point on what it will probably take.
GoBirds
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