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2 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

I think this means Democrats have been playing Donald Trump is an awful human being and a terrible President political games again.

How so?  Because they approved taking out someone in AlQaeda?

 

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1 minute ago, Widbil83 said:

Yikes a mod changed my post.

How so?  And how does it change what Schumer said?  The guy from that tweet was high up in AQ.  You realize that isn't the same as what just happened, right?

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2 hours ago, boots11234 said:

Be careful, some folks reading this thread dont like WINNING.  And you mentioned it quite a few times in this post.  Trump will win MN this election.  Book it.  Winning!

Anything’s possible but he’s got some work to do there. As of last month he’s 10 points underwater (approval rating). 

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6 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

More fake news being spread over the weekend


 

. CBP denies reports of Iranian Americans being detained, refused entry to US  [\b]

I hope most would have been skeptical of that claim to begin with. Over 60+ Iranian Americans were also waiting? Geez, how many come across the border at once?

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1 hour ago, timschochet said:

Anything’s possible but he’s got some work to do there. As of last month he’s 10 points underwater (approval rating). 

Approval ratings are pretty meaningless when the candidates he will face in November are so weak  

Jan. 6: President Trump is now -150 to win re-election, the shortest his odds have ever been (including during the 2016 election)
 

http:// https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/politics/us-presidential-election-odds/

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6 hours ago, Shula-holic said:

I'll admit I was/am a little worried about the move of taking this guy out.  Although I will say, us getting asked to leave Iraq is a good development in my eyes.  We just can't seem to quit that place.  The U.S. is like the degenerate gambler at the casino who just knows this next time is going to be different.  Maybe the Iraqis will save us from ourselves.  We didn't learn from the Soviets in Afghanistan.  If the Russians or Chinese want to try their hand here, let them.  I don't think they'll find it any more hospitable than we have and we just don't have the money to keep it up.  If a further drawdown or outright exit from Iraq is a result, regardless of how it comes about, it's a win.

Exactly , how long have we been looking for a reason to get out of there? Careful what you ask for. 

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1 hour ago, sho nuff said:

How so?  And how does it change what Schumer said?  The guy from that tweet was high up in AQ.  You realize that isn't the same as what just happened, right?

Does that really look like something I would right? And it’s more Democrat hypocrisy.

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5 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Does that really look like something I would right? And it’s more Democrat hypocrisy.

How is it hypocrisy?  Do you understand the difference between the two people killed?

You realize  the democrats didn’t complain like this about Al-Baghdadi, right?

On the edit...i think references to shades of color and Trump may be auto edited these days

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42 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Did we lose any of our guys in the latest purge?

Did they actually purge, they’ve been letting the usual suspects :fishing:at will in this thread? Hard to read where the line is as it seems to vary since the new rules. 

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19 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Did they actually purge, they’ve been letting the usual suspects :fishing:at will in this thread? Hard to read where the line is as it seems to vary since the new rules. 

What happened here, did the level of whining actually almost catch up to all the winning?

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On 1/6/2020 at 6:40 PM, Max Power said:

Assassination just has a poor ring to it.  While the act may fit the dictionary definition, I don't remember much of the media calling the killing of American Anwar Awlaki an assassination. 

The sole criteria or distinction of an assassination is if the person killed is a government official. For instance in WW2, we had plots to kill Hitler. The fact he was the most murderous SOB on the planet at the time and one of the worst ever didn’t change the fact it was an assassination plot. - Oswald assassinated Kennedy but that was so because JFK was President, not because he was a great man. Jack Ruby murdering Oswald was not an assassination otoh. Sorry to interrupt, just wanted to help clarify.

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1 hour ago, kodycutter said:

What happened here, did the level of whining actually almost catch up to all the winning?

While a lot of off topic whining has been allowed in here I’m not sure that’s possible. 

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So at this point President 45/46, Supreme Leader Trump, killed a notorious terrorist who was responsible for an attack on our sovereign territory, killed over 600 Americans and by some estimates millions of others in the region.  He did this and did it without one loss of American life?  This man, this future Mount Rushmore recipient plays chess while members of the democratic party and Iranian leaders play checkers.  Many in this country dont deserve such a leader.

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9 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

So at this point President 45/46, Supreme Leader Trump, killed a notorious terrorist who was responsible for an attack on our sovereign territory, killed over 600 Americans and by some estimates millions of others in the region.  He did this and did it without one loss of American life?  This man, this future Mount Rushmore recipient plays chess while members of the democratic party and Iranian leaders play checkers.  Many in this country dont deserve such a leader.

He's also told the world that it's ok to assassinate top government officials of other countries and that targeting cultural landmarks is A-ok if you're angry at them for something. 

It's wonderful to live in a fantasyland where one can pretend that every action's consequences can be determined in 72 hours.  Are you going to call some other country's leader 'supreme' or suggest they should be put on a statue if they decide to kill our vice president or first lady in an effort to get cheers out of their citizens?

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12 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

So at this point President 45/46, Supreme Leader Trump, killed a notorious terrorist who was responsible for an attack on our sovereign territory, killed over 600 Americans and by some estimates millions of others in the region.  He did this and did it without one loss of American life?  This man, this future Mount Rushmore recipient plays chess while members of the democratic party and Iranian leaders play checkers.  Many in this country dont deserve such a leader.

Way too early for a victory lap, but let's hope you are right about not losing any American lives.

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8 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

He's also told the world that it's ok to assassinate top government officials of other countries and that targeting cultural landmarks is A-ok if you're angry at them for something. 

It's wonderful to live in a fantasyland where one can pretend that every action's consequences can be determined in 72 hours.  Are you going to call some other country's leader 'supreme' or suggest they should be put on a statue if they decide to kill our vice president or first lady in an effort to get cheers out of their citizens?

I was only half right, WAR CRIMES was only one of the talking points.  ASSASSINATE! is the other (I missed this one).  First and foremost he was a terrorist and the leader of a designated terrorist organization.   Because of this he was an open target.  You see back in 2001 Congress gave the President authorization to open season on terrorists.  He was forbidden to leave Iran.  He made one mistake, that mistake was to underestimate President Trump's balls, and it cost him his life.  

Its sad Junior that you seem focused on the fact that this terrorist also served in the Iranian regime.  That says all I need to know about Iran.  Yet you, you almost sound sad that he's dead.  Perhaps you should come to this thread and bask in its winning.  It is very uplifting you'd see.

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On 1/6/2020 at 7:56 PM, knowledge dropper said:

No thanks.  I have no interest in bettering a grand with a random internet person. 

While I recognize I may be just as random, I’ve met Tommy IRL several times and can vouch for him. 

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7 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

I was only half right, WAR CRIMES was only one of the talking points.  ASSASSINATE! is the other (I missed this one).  First and foremost he was a terrorist and the leader of a designated terrorist organization.   Because of this he was an open target.  You see back in 2001 Congress gave the President authorization to open season on terrorists.  He was forbidden to leave Iran.  He made one mistake, that mistake was to underestimate President Trump's balls, and it cost him his life.  

Its sad Junior that you seem focused on the fact that this terrorist also served in the Iranian regime.  That says all I need to know about Iran.  Yet you, you almost sound sad that he's dead.  Perhaps you should come to this thread and bask in its winning.  It is very uplifting you'd see.

There's no one, me included, who grieves one bit for an evil dead man like Soleimani. It was no great accomplishment to kill him. Bush and Obama could have done it anytime they wanted. There are dozens and dozens of evil men on the planet. You can't just kill them all without first weighing the benefits and detriments. I know that Trump has had a rough road and you want to take any 'victory' you can. But let's see if American lives are lost or if there is any impact cyber-wise or in how the US is viewed internationally before peacocking too strongly. It could very-well end up very embarrassing for you. 

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4 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

There's no one, me included, who grieves one bit for an evil dead man like Soleimani. It was no great accomplishment to kill him. Bush and Obama could have done it anytime they wanted. 

Yet they didn’t. And hundreds of American soldiers paid for that decision with their lives. 

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1 minute ago, RBM said:

Yet they didn’t. And hundreds of American soldiers paid for that decision with their lives. 

You dont know this.  Not do you know what would have happened had they killed him them, not all what still may happen now.

 

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10 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

There's no one, me included, who grieves one bit for an evil dead man like Soleimani. It was no great accomplishment to kill him. Bush and Obama could have done it anytime they wanted. There are dozens and dozens of evil men on the planet. You can't just kill them all without first weighing the benefits and detriments. I know that Trump has had a rough road and you want to take any 'victory' you can. But let's see if American lives are lost or if there is any impact cyber-wise or in how the US is viewed internationally before peacocking too strongly. It could very-well end up very embarrassing for you. 

 

Do you write comedy?  If not you should.  Rough road??  Best economy in forever, 2 Supremes, low gas prices, criminal justice reform, etc etc etc.  Yeah, real rough road.  AND he did all this while withstanding the lies that are RUSSIA AND UKRAINE!!!  Lesser men would have broke under all this, not our beloved President.  What a great great man.

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2 minutes ago, RBM said:

Yet they didn’t. And hundreds of American soldiers paid for that decision with their lives. 

Propaganda. Some american soldiers did. The choice that Bush and Obama had to make was the cost worth it. And those two weren't looking to distract from an impeachment, so they didn't have to factor that in.  Bottom line is, Bush and Obama never found out if it was worth taking him out.  history will tell us whether Trump's decision is a good one or a bad one. But I can promise you we don't know the answer 5 days later. 

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Just now, boots11234 said:

 

Do you write comedy?  If not you should.  Rough road??  Best economy in forever, 2 Supremes, low gas prices, criminal justice reform, etc etc etc.  Yeah, real rough road.  AND he did all this while withstanding the lies that are RUSSIA AND UKRAINE!!!  Lesser men would have broke under all this, not our beloved President.  What a great great man.

😅  OK, you had me there for a while. "Great great man"?  lol  I see that this is shtick now.  Good one.

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9 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

You dont know this.  Not do you know what would have happened had they killed him them, not all what still may happen now.

 

Good point sho, and youre right, the other two presidents were weak weak men.  Iran would have been emboldened.  Instead they are pee'ing themselves because they dont want what Trump will serve them up.  Thats why the missiles missed.

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3 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

Propaganda. Some american soldiers did. The choice that Bush and Obama had to make was the cost worth it. And those two weren't looking to distract from an impeachment, so they didn't have to factor that in.  Bottom line is, Bush and Obama never found out if it was worth taking him out.  history will tell us whether Trump's decision is a good one or a bad one. But I can promise you we don't know the answer 5 days later. 

Stop dancing and just be a man and admit you’re ok with those American deaths at the hands of Solemani because it gives you a reason to fill your sick lust for criticizing everything Trump does. 
 

You’re either happy he’s been removed and no more Americans will die because of him or you’re willing to sacrifice those lives and more because you don’t want to give Trump a win on this. 

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You just knew that some of the Trump clan would think that they can pound their chest and do a victory lap if no american lives were lost in the first few days.  As if the this is a two hour movie of the week and there's only two minutes left.  Damn, killing Soleimani would have been an easy choice for Bush or Obama if they knew that they were only going to be responsible for repercussion on the first four days.  😁

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2 minutes ago, RBM said:

Stop dancing and just be a man and admit you’re ok with those American deaths at the hands of Solemani because it gives you a reason to fill your sick lust for criticizing everything Trump does. 
 

You’re either happy he’s been removed and no more Americans will die because of him or you’re willing to sacrifice those lives and more because you don’t want to give Trump a win on this. 

How about this, check in a year from now and if no American lives are lost as a result of the assassination, I'll admit that it was a good move. It's been a few days. Like I said, I know victories have been hard to come by, but relax a little

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6 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

How about this, check in a year from now and if no American lives are lost as a result of the assassination, I'll admit that it was a good move. It's been a few days. Like I said, I know victories have been hard to come by, but relax a little

 

On 1/5/2020 at 9:20 AM, Widbil83 said:

Democrat translation: Any American killed from now on we will blame the Orange Man.

Predictable. :coffee:

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8 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

How about this, check in a year from now and if no American lives are lost as a result of the assassination, I'll admit that it was a good move. It's been a few days. Like I said, I know victories have been hard to come by, but relax a little

Nobody in their right mind thinks this is going to end conflict with Iran. 

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15 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

You just knew that some of the Trump clan would think that they can pound their chest and do a victory lap if no american lives were lost in the first few days.  As if the this is a two hour movie of the week and there's only two minutes left.  Damn, killing Soleimani would have been an easy choice for Bush or Obama if they knew that they were only going to be responsible for repercussion on the first four days.  😁

I'm old enough to remember when Trump was gonna win the Nobel Peace Prize for getting NK to stop trying to make nukes.

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6 minutes ago, RBM said:

Nobody in their right mind thinks this is going to end conflict with Iran. 

Of course not. But if ten americans were killed in last night's attacks, we can certainly agree that it was a result of the assassination.  Although you've done a nice job at giving everyone a sneak peak at what the talking point will be going forward.  Any American killed from here on out would have been killed anyway and has nothing to do with us assassinating Soleimani.  Good to know. 

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35 minutes ago, JuniorNB said:

You just knew that some of the Trump clan would think that they can pound their chest and do a victory lap if no american lives were lost in the first few days.  As if the this is a two hour movie of the week and there's only two minutes left.  Damn, killing Soleimani would have been an easy choice for Bush or Obama if they knew that they were only going to be responsible for repercussion on the first four days.  😁

I mean, is this real life?

Trump felt the risk was justified.  The outcome justified the actions.  And now you're saying that other Presidents coulda done this too if they knew blah blah blah.  Maybe Trump's handling of the situation is why it went down the way it went down.  

But instead "Oh, he got lucky and Iran didn't really do anything."

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39 minutes ago, RBM said:

Stop dancing and just be a man and admit you’re ok with those American deaths at the hands of Solemani because it gives you a reason to fill your sick lust for criticizing everything Trump does. 
 

You’re either happy he’s been removed and no more Americans will die because of him or you’re willing to sacrifice those lives and more because you don’t want to give Trump a win on this. 

Sure feels like some are holding out hope we'll find a few dead so they can say "See!?"

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26 minutes ago, Skoo said:

I'm old enough to remember when Trump was gonna win the Nobel Peace Prize for getting NK to stop trying to make nukes.

Are you also old enough to remember when Obama had billions of dollars in cash flown over to Iran?

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9 minutes ago, jm192 said:

I mean, is this real life?

Trump felt the risk was justified.  The outcome justified the actions.  And now you're saying that other Presidents coulda done this too if they knew blah blah blah.  Maybe Trump's handling of the situation is why it went down the way it went down.  

But instead "Oh, he got lucky and Iran didn't really do anything."

You totally misunderstood. I'm saying that there is still 14:30 left in the first quarter. WAY too soon to determine if it was a good move or not. 

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