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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (11 Viewers)
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knowledge dropper
Footballguy
You are speaking from real world experience. They are coming from a mindset of anything Trump does is nefarious.
Your effort is appreciated but it falls on deaf ears.
You introduced the topic of healthy eating for school children. It's not trolling to point out that the man who's against it is the heaviest, most out of shape president of our lifetime.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Things are looking bright
boots11234
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
KingPrawn
Footballguy
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timschochet
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Tim, we are going to need to take you off the VIP list and send you out with the rest of your crew if you are going to post garbage like this in here.
Be better.
timschochet
Footballguy
What garbage? HT said things are looking bright, and between this study and the one that shows Trump getting almost zero love from African Americans, I’m feeling pretty good right now.Tim, we are going to need to take you off the VIP list and send you out with the rest of your crew if you are going to post garbage like this in here.
Be better.
Does going off the VIP list mean I don’t get any pie? Because I was promised pie yesterday.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
yeah cause President Trump really carried the African American vote in 2016. How'd that workout?
djmich
Footballguy
You don’t like it so accuse the other guy of being corrupt, nice.
It was signed in 2010...how many decades are required to validate effectiveness?
timschochet
Footballguy
I never mentioned, nor implied corruption.
To your question: I don’t know. I think it’s a worthy goal and we need to keep pushing it, not turn back the clock.
timschochet
Footballguy
A lot of them that voted for Obama stayed home in 2016, particularly in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Big reason why Hillary lost. Hopefully it won’t happen this time.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
No pie or cookies for Tim. He can have rice cakes.
GoBirds
Footballguy
It's different this time, how will he compete with Obama's former VP......who he won't endorse until he has to? Who wouldn't vote for a guy that says things like this?
https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-said-desegregation-would-create-a-racial-jungle-2019-7
timschochet
Footballguy
Won't matter what Biden has said or that the economy should help him; Trump is not going to see a rise in his support from African Americans. For Trump, it's all baked in.
crackattack
Footballguy
Universal health care
Student debt forgiveness
Free tuition
Guaranteed income
Reparations
Universal child care
Affordable housing bill
You think this isn't promising the moon? I'm sure I've left some promises out? You think this would be less spending, if all this passed, then what the Trump administration is doing? No way. I strongly disagree. Taxes would increase on everyone to pay for these "free" programs.
timschochet
Footballguy
Name the last former President to endorse a candidate before the nomination was decided? Hint: it’s never happened. (Though, whatever happens in 2020, I have a feeling Donald Trump will be the first. He’ll make a TV special out of it.)
You are correct. Now, I would caution that this is primary season and I don't believe (with the exception of Sanders) that these candidates believe half of the things they say, but they are claiming (most of them) that they support most, if not all, of these above programs. In Warren's case, though, the middle class wouldn't pay a cent.
That could be the lie of the year.
timschochet
Footballguy
And as I wrote: you add all of that together and it doesn’t meet what Trump has already spent.
And why raise taxes? Trump has shown us the way: just add it to the debt and let the next guy worry about it. Or are you thinking Democrats are slightly more fiscally responsible than our current President?
Oh and by the way: the likeliest nominee, Joe Biden, is not in favor of a single program you just listed. So maybe you should reconsider if he’s the guy?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
He's told everyone he's leaving this thread it seems like 3-4 times but always seems to find his way back. And often trying to play the gotcha game and then whining that no one will debate him.Tim, we are going to need to take you off the VIP list and send you out with the rest of your crew if you are going to post garbage like this in here.
Be better.
GoBirds
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
No gotcha and no whining. And I asked permission to return and wrote that if any Trump supporter objected I would stay away. Nobody has asked me to leave. (You’re not a Trump supporter so you don’t count.) I demand pie.
timschochet
Footballguy
crackattack
Footballguy
If they keep the current spending, plus add these programs, it's going to increase spending. Where would they cut? If they're not going to increase taxes, or cut the military budget, or cut social programs, it will most definitely add to spending. That's undeniable.
timschochet
Footballguy
Warren is dishonest. But “lie of the year” is a fierce category and she’s not even a nominee.
There are several worthy candidates but “I don’t know who Lev Parnas is” has a commanding lead at the moment.
crackattack
Footballguy
I agree with you. That's why I called it "promising the moon". It's not possible and a "lie" is probably the best way to describe it.
timschochet
Footballguy
If by “they” you mean Democrats and Republicans alike then you’re correct. Nobody ever cuts spending.
It that doesn’t explain why you would prefer Trump to a Democrat, if spending is truly your main concern. I’m not seeing a significant distinction there except that Trump is slightly worse.
timschochet
Footballguy
Again it’s like saying “I won’t vote for the Democrats because they speak English; I prefer a candidate who doesn’t.”
KingPrawn
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Biden said dumb stuff about desegregation; Trump actually practiced segregation in his NY apartment buildings. I’ll take my chances.
crackattack
Footballguy
Spending is a concern. I'm no fan of the Trump spending. But I strongly disagree with the "free" programs I've listed. I wouldn't vote for anyone offering those or floating those ideas. People need to earn or work/strive for those items. Not just handed to them.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
But that's already baked in to President Trump's support (or lack thereof) from African Americans. It's relatively unknown about Joe Biden. You dont believe that once the televisions ads start running highlighting these quotes it won't erode Biden's support?
squistion
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Then you’re more of a traditional conservative than you initially claimed (nothing wrong with that; just setting the record straight.)
If you were a true independent with spending as your number #1 concern, you would be primarily focused on Republican spending because corporate welfare and wasteful, redundant military spending, which the GOP invariably approves of, exceeds everything you’re concerned about by a large margin. But what you wrote indicates you’re more concerned with the moral aspect of the spending than the amounts: you don’t want money going to what you regard as undeserved.
timschochet
Footballguy
No. Blacks will vote for Biden in Obama like numbers or higher (probably higher because of Trump.) I am more confident about this than anything else in this election. If Biden is the nominee there is no chance for Trump to weaken that support. If there was a photo revealed of Joe Biden in a white hood, grinning at a lynching, they’d still rush to vote for him over Trump. Guaranteed.
crackattack
Footballguy
Again, I disagree. We were discussing Democrats promises and not Republicans. I think our military budget is insanely high. I think our corporate welfare is a burden and unwarranted in most cases. I could list more problems with Republican spending, but it's almost game time. Enjoy your Saturday and go Boilers!
dkp993
Footballguy
I truly hope you are not serious here. If an internet strangers opinion makes you sad Tim you serious need to step away for a while and reevaluate.
GoBirds
Footballguy
You told everyone you were leaving this thread numerous times....yet here you are. Only stating the facts.
HellToupee
Footballguy
You’re coming across as the blowhard uncle pontificating to the family. You don’t know what’s going to happen, no one does.
John Blutarsky
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
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KingPrawn
Footballguy
Do you still hold by this? If any Trump supporter objects or asks you to leave, will you stay away?
This statement would be in the leading contenders, mainly because she kept repeating it as if that made it any less true.
Politicians who deny knowing Parnas are also completely full of it with the photographic evidence. I don't know if I can understand that; maybe they are so above it that they don't care about catching heat from the media or their supporters don't care, etc.
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