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2 hours ago, Max Power said:

You're 100% speculating and already talking impeachment??!  This is crazy talk.

I seriously doubt that Dems would impeach at this point given what has happened, but yeah IMO political interference by the AG and President into a criminal prosecution affecting the President and his friend and former campaign and political consultant would indeed be impeachable. Happy to wait what we find out but I think you will likely hear about hearings on this soon.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I seriously doubt that Dems would impeach at this point given what has happened, but yeah IMO political interference by the AG and President into a criminal prosecution affecting the President and his friend and former campaign and political consultant would indeed be impeachable. Happy to wait what we find out but I think you will likely hear about hearings on this soon.

What interference?  They recommended a 7-9 year sentence. The DOJ came back with a 3-4 year sentence is more inline with the offense.  Then these 4 prosecutors took their ball and went home.

DOJ made the decision to reduce before Trump even tweeted his displeasure with the recommendation.  So I don't see anything wrong done here.  

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You'll get the rarely used sadz emoticon from me for that one indeed, Republicans giving full throated support for authoritarian ideology is indeed a sad day.

Lmao...leave this thread. What’s sad is the the complete meltdown by some here that can’t accept life is good.

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8 minutes ago, Max Power said:

What interference?  They recommended a 7-9 year sentence. The DOJ came back with a 3-4 year sentence is more inline with the offense.  Then these 4 prosecutors took their ball and went home.

DOJ made the decision to reduce before Trump even tweeted his displeasure with the recommendation.  So I don't see anything wrong done here.  

 @Don Quixote posted in the other thread

 

ShimonPro: Trump has withdrawn the nomination of Jessie Liu to serve as the Treasury Department's undersecretary for terrorism and financial crimes, three sources confirm to CNN. Liu headed the US attorney office that oversaw the prosecution and conviction of Trump associate Roger Stone

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17 minutes ago, John Blutarsky said:

...What’s sad is the the complete meltdown by some here that can’t accept life is good.

DOJ is having the meltdown. There are other things more important in this life besides the size of our wallet.

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Just now, The General said:

Now imagine him as president doing whatever he wants and thinking it’s all great because the prez can do what the prez wants. 

Enjoy!

I'm good if he wants to withhold foreign aide.  All good here.  I do think right now he's the likely nominee.  The left is his now, Warren is done after tonight.  The more centrist lane is all a mess with Pete/Amy/Bloomberg.  

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2 minutes ago, Shula-holic said:

I'm good if he wants to withhold foreign aide.  All good here.  I do think right now he's the likely nominee.  The left is his now, Warren is done after tonight.  The more centrist lane is all a mess with Pete/Amy/Bloomberg.  

I’m not. Especially if it’s for some bat#### conspiracy theory stuff.

He starts taking money away front he military force his pet projects like Trump did for his wall?

Going to be like WW3 in here :lol:

 

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Just now, The General said:

I’m not. Especially if it’s for some bat#### conspiracy theory stuff.

He starts taking money away front he military force his pet projects like Trump did for his wall?

Going to be like WW3 in here :lol:

 

Why would you say that?  Relax.  I trust Mitch McConnell to bog it down.  He could cause gridlock and stagnation for an 18 wheeler going 85 MPH on a sheet of ice.  If Sanders is the nominee, I'd expect Trump to win.  But if he didn't, McConnell would be guaranteed the majority leader spot with him heading the ticket.  Either way, the sun comes up in the morning.  I'm not planning on flailing about and breaking out the tin foil hat for four years.  Things are all good.

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33 minutes ago, Sheriff Bart said:

 @Don Quixote posted in the other thread

 

ShimonPro: Trump has withdrawn the nomination of Jessie Liu to serve as the Treasury Department's undersecretary for terrorism and financial crimes, three sources confirm to CNN. Liu headed the US attorney office that oversaw the prosecution and conviction of Trump associate Roger Stone

Interesting/Bad, she stepped down from US Attorney for DC to take that nomination. - She was looking at confirmation hearings where she was certain to be asked about interference from the AG and the President in the Mueller prosecutions, including Stone.

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21 minutes ago, Shula-holic said:

Why would you say that?  Relax.  I trust Mitch McConnell to bog it down.  He could cause gridlock and stagnation for an 18 wheeler going 85 MPH on a sheet of ice.  If Sanders is the nominee, I'd expect Trump to win.  But if he didn't, McConnell would be guaranteed the majority leader spot with him heading the ticket.  Either way, the sun comes up in the morning.  I'm not planning on flailing about and breaking out the tin foil hat for four years.  Things are all good.

What say did Mitch have in Trump’s EO to take billions for his fence? It was a “national emergency”.

Prez apparently has a lot of leeway in that regard apparently and it’s all good.

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54 minutes ago, Max Power said:

What interference?  They recommended a 7-9 year sentence. The DOJ came back with a 3-4 year sentence is more inline with the offense.  Then these 4 prosecutors took their ball and went home.

DOJ made the decision to reduce before Trump even tweeted his displeasure with the recommendation.  So I don't see anything wrong done here.  

DOJ - which is just the prosecutors btw - didn't ask for a 3-4 year sentence - the prosecutors asked for 7-9 years, then the very next day, a day when the President excoriated the sentence request on twitter,  they asked for a lesser sentence without even naming any recommended term at all, and you think there was no interference or pressure from above, is that right?

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6 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

It’s long overdue to cut back social security from drug addicts, morbidly obese, and others that were not the intended recipient of social security.  

A test for seniors to receive Social Security based on their weight...yes I am sure that will go over well...

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8 minutes ago, The General said:

What say did Mitch have in Trump’s EO to take billions for his fence? It was a “national emergency”.

Prez apparently has a lot of leeway in that regard apparently and it’s all good.

Is this the fence I hear about in the PSF that isn't really being built?

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You'll get the rarely used sadz emoticon from me for that one indeed, Republicans giving full throated support for authoritarian ideology is indeed a sad day.

Context. It's a good posting because if you guys really think that - the nothingburger threads in here should dry up some. 

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Just now, Shula-holic said:

Is this the fence I hear about in the PSF that isn't really being built?

Lord knows what they do with the money. 

Trump couldn’t get it done with Congress, got worked over by Nancy, got the government shutdown, so made up the national emergency to get the funds.

Prez Sanders mouth is watering.

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On 2/11/2020 at 5:49 PM, knowledge dropper said:

Who said anything about seniors.  You think seniors are the only ones getting social security?

Seniors are not the major recipients of Social Security? 

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4 minutes ago, tonydead said:

Context. It's a good posting because if you guys really think that - the nothingburger threads in here should dry up some. 

Eh that depends on your view of an important piece of the American experiment drying up. If it’s resignation, apathy or even support for that, yeah, I agree.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh thT depends on your view of an important piece of the American experiment drying up. If it’s resignation, apathy or even support for that, yeah, I agree.

That a boy.  Next scandal they come up with let's not get all our hopes up since we know how it ends. 

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26 minutes ago, squistion said:
31 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

It’s long overdue to cut back social security from drug addicts, morbidly obese, and others that were not the intended recipient of social security.  

A test for seniors to receive Social Security based on their weight...yes I am sure that will go over well...

Odd take since I’m sure this demographic puts in much more than it takes out. 

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Honest question: if Trump had exerted influence directly, through a call to the DOJ to get the requested sentence reduced, would any of you guys truly care?

I mean, I get why you all want to call things "nothingburgers" and to pretend that folks go from fake news story to fake news story.

But why even go through that effort?  Why pretend it's all nothing when the core seems to be that you really just don't care?  If this is your approach, "Let him do whatever he wants...stock market is up, he's winning and owning the libs...whatever it takes to keep him in power...hoorah!", just go with that.  No need to cloak it in a fake news/nothingburger wrapper.

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1 hour ago, John Blutarsky said:

Lmao...leave this thread. What’s sad is the the complete meltdown by some here that can’t accept life is good.

I must admit, I get a big kick out of the blubbering and meltdowns. It compliments the constant negativity and defeatism nicely. Imagine if Trump supporters did this in “The Trump Years” thread. We would be tarred and feathered (and rightfully so).

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1 minute ago, Widbil83 said:

I must admit, I get a big kick out of the blubbering and meltdowns. It compliments the constant negativity and defeatism nicely. Imagine if Trump supporters did this in “The Trump Years” thread. We would be tarred and feathered (and rightfully so).

It’s so sad and childish. 

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Some pundits talking about the significance in the small state of New Hampshire where Bill Weld got about 10% of the GOP vote. (10,000 votes)President Trump lost New Hampshire by 3000 votes to Clinton and the President had sights on winning the state but those 10,000 votes are protest Romney type votes. Where do those 10,000 votes go in November? How many stay home and or how many can the Democrats grab? Hard to believe that the President has picked up votes since 2016 or that whoever the Democrat candidate is will get less votes than Clinton did.

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7 minutes ago, lazyike said:

Some pundits talking about the significance in the small state of New Hampshire where Bill Weld got about 10% of the GOP vote. (10,000 votes)President Trump lost New Hampshire by 3000 votes to Clinton and the President had sights on winning the state but those 10,000 votes are protest Romney type votes. Where do those 10,000 votes go in November? How many stay home and or how many can the Democrats grab? Hard to believe that the President has picked up votes since 2016 or that whoever the Democrat candidate is will get less votes than Clinton did.

I just heard Lawrence O'Donnell say this.  What he failed to quantify or account for was how many of those 10,000 may have not voted or voted for Clinton in 2016.  NH allows you to take the ballot you want so there's no way to know that.  He also was assuming no defections from the Democratic side.  I find it hard to believe that if Bernie wins, all the centrists show up to vote Bernie or that if someone other than Bernie wins, all his people show up to vote for the other D.  That state is too close to call for either side, especially not knowing who the nominee will be.  He also conveniently left out that the turnout appears flat just as it was in Iowa.

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5 minutes ago, Shula-holic said:

I just heard Lawrence O'Donnell say this.  What he failed to quantify or account for was how many of those 10,000 may have not voted or voted for Clinton in 2016.  NH allows you to take the ballot you want so there's no way to know that.  He also was assuming no defections from the Democratic side.  I find it hard to believe that if Bernie wins, all the centrists show up to vote Bernie or that if someone other than Bernie wins, all his people show up to vote for the other D.  That state is too close to call for either side, especially not knowing who the nominee will be.  He also conveniently left out that the turnout appears flat just as it was in Iowa.

That is a good point but I find it hard to believe that anyone who would have voted for Clinton would now waste a vote for Weld, or if they did that they would consider voting for Trump this fall. Far more likely they stay home

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Just now, lazyike said:

That is a good point but I find it hard to believe that anyone who would have voted for Clinton would now waste a vote for Weld, or if they did that they would consider voting for Trump this fall. Far more likely they stay home

In large part, I agree.  But O'Donnell was basically saying it's 0 that would cast a vote for Trump out of that 10,000 and that makes the math impossible statistically.  It's not 0, I'd suggest it's likely not a statistically insignificant piece.  Let's say Bernie Sanders wins the nomination.  Is it realistic to say 10,000 Republicans who are currently "never Trumpers" or simply Republicans who may just not like Trump so much will simply stay home or vote for a self described Socialist in 100% totality?  I don't believe that is an honest take.  Again, I don't know what those proportions will be, who the nominee will be to take on Trump, what the economy is like by November, etc.  All that plays a part.  But NH is one of the most in doubt states there is right now.  I think while his numbers may be valid in their raw form, he's drawing some unsubstantiated conclusions from them.

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1 minute ago, Shula-holic said:

In large part, I agree.  But O'Donnell was basically saying it's 0 that would cast a vote for Trump out of that 10,000 and that makes the math impossible statistically.  It's not 0, I'd suggest it's likely not a statistically insignificant piece.  Let's say Bernie Sanders wins the nomination.  Is it realistic to say 10,000 Republicans who are currently "never Trumpers" or simply Republicans who may just not like Trump so much will simply stay home or vote for a self described Socialist in 100% totality?  I don't believe that is an honest take.  Again, I don't know what those proportions will be, who the nominee will be to take on Trump, what the economy is like by November, etc.  All that plays a part.  But NH is one of the most in doubt states there is right now.  I think while his numbers may be valid in their raw form, he's drawing some unsubstantiated conclusions from them.

One thing I did hear as far as turn out though is that with 90% reporting they already have had more turnout than 2016. 

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15 minutes ago, lazyike said:

One thing I did hear as far as turn out though is that with 90% reporting they already have had more turnout than 2016. 

Fingers crossed the disappointing turn out in Iowa slapped some people around to not just take for granted a strong voter turn out this year.  

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Another interesting point made by O’Donnell. There are now 20,000 fewer registered Republican voters in New Hampshire than there were in 2016. That is what Donald Trump has done to the Republican Party. I do wonder if those numbers are solid or if they can register back with the GOP

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4 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

MSNBC: “Hey we got a voter over here, who did you vote for?” :lmao:

https://twitter.com/liz_wheeler/status/1227361491726168064?s=21

TRUMP BABY!!  They were reporting only 2% votes trump. Guess they found one of those voters. It’s going to be like this on election night. How many folks have come into this thread and said I didn’t vote for him in 16 but will be in 20. He is going to destroy any democrat.  

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37 minutes ago, lazyike said:

Another interesting point made by O’Donnell. There are now 20,000 fewer registered Republican voters in New Hampshire than there were in 2016. That is what Donald Trump has done to the Republican Party. I do wonder if those numbers are solid or if they can register back with the GOP

Registration often drops for the incumbent party during the primary.

ODonnell not the brightest or spewing quasi fake news.

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6 hours ago, TripItUp said:

Registration often drops for the incumbent party during the primary.

ODonnell not the brightest or spewing quasi fake news.

Not all states are the same. In some states the Secretary of State has a list of which party you are registered with. Minnesota does not. It reminded me to check with my local county Republican Party though and to notify them I want my name removed from their list. Thanks for reminding me to get my name off that creepy list.

Not sure how it works in New Hampshire but I did see on either MSNBC where there was a process where you went to the party’s primary table, picked up a ballot and then if you wished after you voted went to another table could change your party status. Maybe someone else here knows how that process worked in New Hampshire?

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20 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

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Historical night for Donald .and dear Elizabeth finished on the ragged edge of the bottom

 

and the Bernie Bro’s should be on high alert that the media is against them as well as their party

Poor Bernie Bro’s.  They are going to work so hard only to let their team pick up an aging veteran with no rings at the July trading deadline to take over for the stretch run.  
 

welcome back

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