What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

Welcome to Our Forums. Once you've registered and logged in, you're primed to talk football, among other topics, with the sharpest and most experienced fantasy players on the internet.

TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (16 Viewers)

Shula-holic said:
The numbers make sense and we know as it stands today that a divergence in the electoral college results when compared to the popular vote results more likely favors Trump.  Even though Bush beat Gore in 2000 in similar fashion,  leading up to that election the odds of such a split actually more favored Gore to be the beneficiary of such a split.  Over time those type chances can flip flop. 

Today it's more likely because of how polarized the nation is and people tend to "live with their own".  We live under a federalist system where the states are supposed to share power with the federal government and this system does give power to those individual states.  It's the very same reason we have a separate House and Senate and why one gives states more power while the other is strictly based on population.  I always find it interesting since Trump's election that the electoral college system that's spelled out in the Constitution comes under fire the most from the same folks who called Trump a threat to the Constitution.  
Click to expand...
Correct but the founders effort to make sure that everyone is represented has given a disproportionate amount of power to the minority of people.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Sheriff Bart said:
Correct but I the founders effort to make sure that everyone is represented has given a disproportionate amount of power to the minority of people.
Click to expand...
My belief is they did it to make absolutely sure that minority views, especially if said minority views federally were majority views within those individual states, are represented and protected. From the beginning, the federal government always needed support of the individual states.

 
Shula-holic said:
My belief is they did it to make absolutely sure that minority views, especially if said minority views federally were majority views within those individual states, are represented and protected. From the beginning, the federal government always needed support of the individual states.
Click to expand...
I agree but I don't think they did it with the intention of giving them power over the majority.  They were interested in equality.

 
Shula-holic said:
We live under a federalist system where the states are supposed to share power with the federal government and this system does give power to those individual states.  It's the very same reason we have a separate House and Senate and why one gives states more power while the other is strictly based on population.  I always find it interesting since Trump's election that the electoral college system that's spelled out in the Constitution comes under fire the most from the same folks who called Trump a threat to the Constitution.  
Click to expand...
I tend to agree with you since I support the EC myself, but this point would have legs if Trump supporters weren’t so regularly cheering the dismantling of several of the US Constitution’s other provisions daily just in the way you say. One threat or outcome of that is the radicalization of opposition. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Sheriff Bart said:
Correct but the founders effort to make sure that everyone is represented has given a disproportionate amount of power to the minority of people.
Click to expand...
It's only "disportionate" because it happened to line up against what you wanted to happen in 2016.  You throw the baby out with the bathwater if you want it changed just because of But Trump!

 
The General said:
Pete is the most inspirational I think of the moderate Dems. Amazing speaker, good story. Young, vet. 

Klobacher about as boring as they get but if that’s what people want there you go.

Bernie to me is the biggest wild card. A lot of young people seem to want this.

If Trump were to quit Twitter for the summer do his rallies in key spots, the economy keeps strong stock market just holds steady it will be 50/50, down to a few states making all the difference. 
Click to expand...
LOL. And this is precisely why no dem will win. You think pete is moderate. There is no current running candidate that is moderate 

 
boots11234 said:
LOL. And this is precisely why no dem will win. You think pete is moderate. There is no current running candidate that is moderate 
Click to expand...
His stances on health care, environment, taxing wealthy higher, increased gun control all poll above/around 50% in support of I believe. Seems pretty moderate.

 
tonydead said:
It's only "disportionate" because it happened to line up against what you wanted to happen in 2016.  You throw the baby out with the bathwater if you want it changed just because of But Trump!
Click to expand...
I guess it's sort of true but I didn't really believe Johnson had a shot in 2016.  It still doesn't justify millions of people whose voice isn't heard though. 

Here's my POTUS voting history 

Bush

Perot

Clinton 

Bush

Bush

McCain 

Romney 

Johnson 

I do agree with you though that I think Trump is very bad for the nation and the world. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Cash For Votes: Trump PAC Hands Out Big Bucks To Black Folks to go into Black communities to promise them cash if they attend pro-Trump events.

That's our president!

 
tonydead said:
It's only "disportionate" because it happened to line up against what you wanted to happen in 2016.  You throw the baby out with the bathwater if you want it changed just because of But Trump!
Click to expand...
That and they haven't expanded the House since 1917.

 
Sheriff Bart said:
I guess it's sort of true but I didn't really believe Johnson had a shot in 2016.  It still doesn't justify millions of people whose voice isn't heard though. 

Here's my POTUS voting history 

Bush

Perot

Clinton 

Bush

Bush

McCain 

Romney 

Johnson 

I do agree with you though that I think Trump is very bad for the nation and the world. 
Click to expand...
:lmao:  Wat?  Where did I say voting for Hillary is a requirement for being anti-Trump?  And you can be equally upset at your Johnson vote as the electoral college, I bet you wont do that again. 

 
tonydead said:
Sheriff Bart said:
I guess it's sort of true but I didn't really believe Johnson had a shot in 2016.  It still doesn't justify millions of people whose voice isn't heard though. 

Here's my POTUS voting history 

Bush

Perot

Clinton 

Bush

Bush

McCain 

Romney 

Johnson 

I do agree with you though that I think Trump is very bad for the nation and the world. 
Click to expand...
:lmao:  Wat?  Where did I say voting for Hillary is a requirement for being anti-Trump?  And you can be equally upset at your Johnson vote as the electoral college, I bet you wont do that again. 
Click to expand...
I really don’t see a vote for Johnson (ie 3rd party) as a wasted voted, especially in states that aren’t in play.  We must get a 3rd true moderate voice into the mix and this just won’t happen with both parties going further left and right. We at bare minimum need to get that 3rd party to the 15% threshold so they can join the national debates.  

 
dkp993 said:
I really don’t see a vote for Johnson (ie 3rd party) as a wasted voted, especially in states that aren’t in play.  We must get a 3rd true moderate voice into the mix and this just won’t happen with both parties going further left and right. We at bare minimum need to get that 3rd party to the 15% threshold so they can join the national debates.  
Click to expand...
That’s precisely why I voted for Johnson. But since people failed to turn out for Hillary they should be the last to complain about Trump and his electoral college. 

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Cash For Votes: Trump PAC Hands Out Big Bucks To Black Folks to go into Black communities to promise them cash if they attend pro-Trump events.

That's our president!
Click to expand...
Trump isn't even a part of this.  Did you read the article?  

The Urban Revitalization Coalition is holding raffles at events to get money back into the urban community.  

But however the TDS media needs to spin it...

 
Democrats worried about Trump's growing strength
 

Senate Democrats are privately acknowledging that President Trump will be very tough to beat in November if the economy stays strong and he draws on the substantial advantages of running as an incumbent.

Publicly, Democratic lawmakers are putting on a brave face, but behind closed doors anxiety is mounting over the unraveling of former Vice President Joe Biden’s White House bid and the failure of impeachment to put a dent in Trump’s approval ratings.

One of the chief concerns is that Trump, who has a virtually uncontested path to the Republican nomination, will have a big head start to prepare for the general election.

His reelection campaign is already spending heavily to reach out to voters on Facebook, and the Republican Party is solidly unified behind him.

Meanwhile, Sen. Bernie Sanders’s (I-Vt.) victory in Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary has made clear to some Senate Democrats that the party’s primary is likely to drag on for months.

In particular, they worry the party will remain divided until the summer convention and fear a reprise of 2016, when lingering resentment among Sanders’s supporters over the Democratic National Committee’s favoritism toward eventual nominee Hillary Clinton dampened voter turnout in the fall. 

“I hear comments all the time that after what’s happened in the first two primaries we only have a 50-50 chance. It’s not looking good,” said a Democratic senator who requested anonymity to talk about the private concerns of colleagues. 
Click to expand...
Putting on a brave face = Claiming everything is an abuse of power and having the media attack Trump Republicans. 

 
Perfect analysis 
 

Thomas Sowell (@ThomasSowell)

2/17/20, 9:54 PM

Barack Obama's political genius is his ability to say things that will sound good to people who have not followed the issues in any detail — regardless of how obviously fraudulent what he says may be to those who have.

 
boots11234 said:
Merciful Trump expected to pardon Rod Link  Blagovich. What a kind and forgiving President. 
Click to expand...
This sounds like actual sarcasm, remarkable. Trump pardons someone who conducted a cash bribery scheme with the most corrupt Democratic Louisiana Governor in the last 80 years, and another Democrat engaged in trading an official appointment for personal gain. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
@Widbil83let’s hear from you - Eddie DeBartolo have Dem Gov Edwin Edwards $400,000 to buy a casino license, in cash. Golly, the way you feel about corruption and draining the swamp this must really disgust you, no?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Ha LOL, oohhhhhhh we’re just cleaning the DC swamp folks, everyone else it’s a free for all max corruption zone. Thanks for that clarification.
Click to expand...
He served 8 years in federal prison?  Doesn’t sound like a free pass.  
 

Trump has cleared more swamp in the last two weeks than all presidents combined in 50+ years  

 
squistion said:
Fun Fact:

Blago was not only convicted of selling a U.S. Senate seat. The Illinois governor also threatened to withhold state money for a children's hospital unless its CEO coughed up money for his campaign.
Click to expand...
Trump is soft on corruption unless it's a conspiracy theory related to a political rival.  Just look at the criminals he surrounded himself with in his campaign, and how many cases he's having to intervene in just to get his convicted buddies lighter sentences.

Glad he's scouring the US looking for other convicted corrupt public officials to pardon.  

 
squistion said:
Hmm...with a pardon of Blagojevich one might question the legitimacy of  Trump’s claim that he is "anti-corruption" crusader.
Click to expand...


SaintsInDome2006 said:
@Widbil83let’s hear from you - Eddie DeBartolo have Dem Gov Edwin Edwards $400,000 to buy a casino license, in cash. Golly, the way you feel about corruption and draining the swamp this must really disgust you, no?
Click to expand...


adonis said:
Trump is soft on corruption unless it's a conspiracy theory related to a political rival.  Just look at the criminals he surrounded himself with in his campaign, and how many cases he's having to intervene in just to get his convicted buddies lighter sentences.

Glad he's scouring the US looking for other convicted corrupt public officials to pardon.  
Click to expand...
I see the Obama supporting pardon warriors are at it again. 🙄

You guys do realize Obama pardoned like 3 times the people President Trump has at this point, right? 

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

dozer
****Official DOJ Investigation into Trump, Fake Electors, Fraud, Etc.****
5 6 7
Replies
348
Views
11K
Sabertooth
Sabertooth
L
McCarthy and McConnell Wanted ‘Son of a B*tch’ Trump Out of Politics After Jan. 6 Riot,
2 3
Replies
124
Views
3K
ignatiusjreilly
ignatiusjreilly
GordonGekko
Revisiting The Young Turks 2016 Election Meltdown Over Trump's Stunning Victory (7/7/2022 9:35 PST)
Replies
16
Views
459
GordonGekko
GordonGekko

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 17 (members: 0, guests: 17)
Top