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2 minutes ago, Kal El said:

Just because you don't want it to be true doesn't mean it's a lie. As for your question: no, I don't take everything literally, but as I linked in the story you don't like, clearly others do and poisoned themselves for absolutely no reason because Trump thought it was a good idea. 

I don't think anyone is poison themselves for no good reason. I don't think anyone is poisoned themselves for good reasons either.

I think you're making a big deal out of nothing, because, well, hysteria and hyperbole seem to get all the attention and not facts and logic.

Now go jump off a cliff. I'd like to know if you're going to take that literally or figuratively?

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8 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

because they know if they act all dramatic and hysterical then people will pay attention to that instead of the actual context and what a person actually means.

 

...and it worked for about a month in 2016, then anyone intelligent tuned them out. 

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14 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

I don't think anyone is poison themselves for no good reason. I don't think anyone is poisoned themselves for good reasons either.

I think you're making a big deal out of nothing, because, well, hysteria and hyperbole seem to get all the attention and not facts and logic.

Now go jump off a cliff. I'd like to know if you're going to take that literally or figuratively?

Facts and logic are getting the attention of the majority of the country, thankfully. We realize that Trump is unfit to lead, so we ignore him and do things the correct way.

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4 minutes ago, Kal El said:

Facts and logic are getting the attention of the majority of the country, thankfully. We realize that Trump is unfit to lead, so we ignore him and do things the correct way.

Reasonable minds can disagree. There's at least 50% of the country that disagree with you.

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1 minute ago, BladeRunner said:

Reasonable minds can disagree. There's at least 50% of the country that disagree with you.

That math is wrong. Trump is fairly constantly sub-50% on approval polls, and since I certainly don't approve of him, at least 50% of the country in fact agrees with me.

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Just now, Kal El said:

That math is wrong. Trump is fairly constantly sub-50% on approval polls, and since I certainly don't approve of him, at least 50% of the country in fact agrees with me.

The last time you guys believed in polls you lost an election you were 200% sure you would win And we've had to deal with hyperbole and hysteria ever since.

It's safe to say that at least 50% of the country agrees with me too.

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27 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

The last time you guys believed in polls you lost an election you were 200% sure you would win And we've had to deal with hyperbole and hysteria ever since.

It's safe to say that at least 50% of the country agrees with me too.

First of all, I'm a libertarian, so there goes your generalization. You get no points for effort. Second, I'm going to need to see a link confirming this supposed majority which doesn't exist.

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13 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

We can’t even talk about Touchdowns, not easy being supportive of your President in here. Don’t let the poll guys see this when they are trolling through. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/04/26/5-polling-stats-that-should-make-joe-biden-worry/amp/

A month for that post after all the trolling that goes on in here is shameful . Absolutely shameful   . 
 

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Can you believe this?  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money?  Also currency is dirty and filled with germs  How many people is he going to infect with the Chinese virus?   Hopefully, the Treasury Department clarifies this statement   This is not okay!!!!


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/28/joe-biden-travel-bans-prevent-economic-intercourse-around-the-world/

 

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4 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Can you believe this?  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money?  Also currency is dirty and filled with germs  How many people is he going to infect with the Chinese virus?   Hopefully, the Treasury Department clarifies this statement   This is not okay!!!!


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/28/joe-biden-travel-bans-prevent-economic-intercourse-around-the-world/

It could be worse, he might telling us to eat hamberders and drink covfefe without social distancing. 

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7 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:


Can you believe this?  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money?  Also currency is dirty and filled with germs  How many people is he going to infect with the Chinese virus?   Hopefully, the Treasury Department clarifies this statement   This is not okay!!!!


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/28/joe-biden-travel-bans-prevent-economic-intercourse-around-the-world/

 

The USMCA, China and the Politicisation of Economic Intercourse

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John Maynard Keynes. Keynes was generally free trade and supported the logic of specialisation

“In a regime of Free Trade and free economic intercourse it would be of little consequence that iron lay on one side of a political frontier, and labor, coal, and blast furnaces on the other. But as it is, men have devised ways to impoverish themselves and one another; and prefer collective animosities to individual happiness.”

 

Here.

- It's an oft used economic term.

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6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The USMCA, China and the Politicisation of Economic Intercourse

John Maynard Keynes. Keynes was generally free trade and supported the logic of specialisation

“In a regime of Free Trade and free economic intercourse it would be of little consequence that iron lay on one side of a political frontier, and labor, coal, and blast furnaces on the other. But as it is, men have devised ways to impoverish themselves and one another; and prefer collective animosities to individual happiness.

Here.

- It's an oft used economic term.

I wonder if the response to that will be that John Maynard Keynes was suffering from mental decline and dementia when he said that.

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13 minutes ago, squistion said:

It could be worse, he might telling us to eat hamberders and drink covfefe without social distancing. 

Please only post in this thread in good faith and take your trolling elsewhere 

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5 minutes ago, squistion said:

I wonder if the response to that will be that John Maynard Keynes was suffering from mental decline and dementia when he said that.

It's a running gag in the movie Idiocracy that Joe Bauers is laughed at because he uses "smart" words.

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12 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Please only post in this thread in good faith and take your trolling elsewhere 

Wait, are you saying that knowledge dropper was being serious when he said  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money? 

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31 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:


Can you believe this?  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money?  Also currency is dirty and filled with germs  How many people is he going to infect with the Chinese virus?   Hopefully, the Treasury Department clarifies this statement   This is not okay!!!!


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/28/joe-biden-travel-bans-prevent-economic-intercourse-around-the-world/

 

Yeah that’s dumb. He misspoke there.

See how easy that is?

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8 minutes ago, squistion said:

Wait, are you saying that knowledge dropper was being serious when he said  Biden is actually telling us to have seks with money? 

I’m saying take your act elsewhere. All you do in this thread is post snark and report posts that offend your sensibilities . Be better

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2 minutes ago, I-ROK said:

Is it Tuesday or Thursday? 1940s or 2020s? I just can't tell anymore when I watch Joe talk

Are 100k americans going to die?  Is the economy destroyed?  Did the president suggest that the virus would go away like a miracle and to inject bleach and light?

Pretty easy call to most americans. 

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4 minutes ago, I-ROK said:

Hard to tell when he is misspeaking when every 4th word is jumbled. 

We can agree that neither Trump or Biden are wordsmiths. 

Biden wins the tie-breaker in that he doesn't tweet and cry every morning and afternoon.

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11 minutes ago, I-ROK said:

The fact that you believe he actually said/meant that shows your intelligence level. 

I guess I've polled three people on this now. RW actually provided an answer which I appreciate.

What, in your opinion, was he saying? Thanks.

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17 minutes ago, I-ROK said:

The fact that you believe he actually said/meant that shows your intelligence level. 

He did, literally:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21176535/trumps-worst-statements-coronavirus

3) “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”

On February 28, Trump said that coronavirus will “disappear” like a “miracle” while speaking at a press conference for his coronavirus task force. On Tuesday, he told reporters on Capitol Hill that coronavirus “will go away.” In late February, he speculated that warm weather would kill the virus and stop its spread. None of these statements are backed by science or infectious disease experts within his own administration. (Though some diseases — like the seasonal flu — do diminish in warmer seasons, there is currently no evidence the novel coronavirus will behave this way.)

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19 minutes ago, James Daulton said:

Are 100k americans going to die?  Is the economy destroyed?  Did the president suggest that the virus would go away like a miracle and to inject bleach and light?

Pretty easy call to most americans. 

No. If so, we make China accountable

Trump will rebuild the economy quickly and better than ever. 

The bleach and light is a falsehood, but you guys already know that.  

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21 minutes ago, The General said:

We can agree that neither Trump or Biden are wordsmiths. 

Biden wins the tie-breaker in that he doesn't tweet and cry every morning and afternoon.

Only because his Biden’s handlers keep him in the basement away from technology with frequent access to naps. 

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11 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Trump will rebuild the economy quickly and better than ever. 

Curious, what type of economic background do you have and what do you base this comment on? 

After a lengthy economic expansion, such as the one that just ended, a smart leader would've been trying to reduce deficits, not increase them.

Instead, he was blowing the deficits out. It isn't too difficult to build something great in the short term with increasing deficits when you have zero vision for the long term.

You remember when he pitched the tax cut act to benefit billionaires and corporations? You remember when he repeatedly discussed the most unrealistic GDP growth projections which were going to pay for the tax cuts? I wasn't buying snake oil then, and I'm certainly not buying it now. 

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28 minutes ago, squistion said:

He did, literally:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/13/21176535/trumps-worst-statements-coronavirus

3) “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear”

On February 28, Trump said that coronavirus will “disappear” like a “miracle” while speaking at a press conference for his coronavirus task force. On Tuesday, he told reporters on Capitol Hill that coronavirus “will go away.” In late February, he speculated that warm weather would kill the virus and stop its spread. None of these statements are backed by science or infectious disease experts within his own administration. (Though some diseases — like the seasonal flu — do diminish in warmer seasons, there is currently no evidence the novel coronavirus will behave this way.)

This was Trump, sitting next to now fired Diamond and Silk, who have just been canned by Fox for spreading rumors that the virus is a hoax.

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They'll ask me and, you know, you do it too. I guess it's a natural political instinct. But when they say, "What kind of deal is it?" "Terrible. Terrible. Terrible." And people get it. With what we're talking about now with the virus, we can't do that. We have to do it differently. If we're doing a great job, we should congratulate these professionals that are the best in the world.

...And you know what? If we were doing a bad job, we should also be criticized. But we have done an incredible job. We're going to continue. It's going to disappear. One day -- it's like a miracle -- it will disappear. And from our shores, we -- you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away.

...They said I was a racist because I closed our country to people coming in from certain areas. They called me a racist. These people are really in trouble. I'll tell you what: They've got problems. And now they say, "Oh…" We have 15 people in this country that, right now -- and then we brought in 40 from -- these were Americans that were in trouble way outside, near Japan.

...And we brought them in and they were in quarantine and they're getting better. That was 40 or 42. We brought them in, which I felt we had to do. So they immediately said, "It jumped from 15 to an extra 40." Headline. And everyone -- no, we brought them in, Jack, because if we didn't, I mean, we're not going to let something happen.

...We had to do it. And I knew immediately that the press would add it and say this like it's catastrophic, it's ba- -- but we've done a great job. Those people are all doing well. They're doing very well. The 15 -- of the 15, most of them are doing very well. One is quite sick, frankly. Most of them are doing really well.

...And the 15 will soon be down to 3 or 4 because we take them off the list as they get better and they're recuperate. Like, if you had the flu, you recuperate. You get better. And they're recuperating. But we're -- think of it: We're at 15 people, and we would have been at many, many people had we not closed the border.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

This was Trump, sitting next to now fired Diamond and Silk, who have just been canned by Fox for spreading rumors that the virus is a hoax.

 

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Bad advice from deep state Dr. Fauci.  Trump should have gone to the bullpen early on.  One fault I have with Trump is he is too loyal.  

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24 minutes ago, fantasycurse42 said:

Curious, what type of economic background do you have and what do you base this comment on? 

After a lengthy economic expansion, such as the one that just ended, a smart leader would've been trying to reduce deficits, not increase them.

Instead, he was blowing the deficits out. It isn't too difficult to build something great in the short term with increasing deficits when you have zero vision for the long term.

You remember when he pitched the tax cut act to benefit billionaires and corporations? You remember when he repeatedly discussed the most unrealistic GDP growth projections which were going to pay for the tax cuts? I wasn't buying snake oil then, and I'm certainly not buying it now. 

CPA 

The MAGA Plan is the only way out of this China Virus mess.  Bring manufacturing home.  

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27 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Bad advice from deep state Dr. Fauci.  Trump should have gone to the bullpen early on.  One fault I have with Trump is he is too loyal.  

Deep state Dr. Fauci?  :unsure:

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16 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

“I love Everybody”

l’ll take things never said by President Obama for $1000, Alex. 

We all know we'd take an Obama at the helm during this. MAGA folks know this. His Vulcan ways would have been perfectly suited for this.

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59 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Only because his Biden’s handlers keep him in the basement away from technology with frequent access to naps. 

Speaking of Biden’s handlers (the media), they still have not asked him a single question about his sexual assault allegations. 

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48 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Bad advice from deep state Dr. Fauci.  Trump should have gone to the bullpen early on.  One fault I have with Trump is he is too loyal.  

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Question: “Dr. Fauci, quickly, how does this all end?”

Fauci: “You know, it ends if you — it depends on the nature of the outbreak. I mean, this could be a major outbreak. I hope not. Or it could be something that’s reasonably well controlled. At the end of the day, this will ultimately go down. Hopefully we could protect the American public from any serious degree of morbidity or mortality. That’s the reason why we’ve got to do the things that we have in our plan.”

 

This was Feb. 29th, two days after Trump spoke above on Feb. 27th.

That is a long haul from what Trump said.

This was the CDC IRD Director for CDC two days before Trump:

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“As we’ve seen from recent countries with community spread, when it has hit those countries, it has moved quite rapidly. We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters.

“As more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder,” she said.

...“Disruption to everyday life might be severe,” Messonnier said, adding that she talked to her children about the issue Tuesday morning. “While I didn’t think they were at risk right now, we as a family ought to be preparing for significant disruption to our lives.”\

 

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Subject: FW: Today's performance From your doctor admirer

From: Fauci, Anthony (NIH/NIAID) [E] [mailto:AFAUCI@niaid.nih.gov] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:10 PM To: Mills, Cheryl D Subject: Today's performance Cheryl: Anyone who had any doubts about the Secretary's stamina and capability following her illness had those doubts washed away by today's performance before the Senate and the House. She faced extremely difficult circumstances at the Hearings and still she hit it right out of the park. Please tell her that we all love her and are very proud to know her.

Warm regards, Tony
 

Anthony S. Fauci, MD Director National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Building 31, Room 7A-03 31 Center Drive, MSC 2520

 

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4 hours ago, knowledge dropper said:

Bad advice from deep state Dr. Fauci.  Trump should have gone to the bullpen early on.  One fault I have with Trump is he is too loyal.  

Agree 100% with this. Trump didn’t want mass quarantine but crumbled against his instinct and listened to Dr Slouchy. Time to fire him and move on with opening country. This will go down as one of the biggest mistakes humanity has ever made when all the costs are added up. 

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21 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

Agree 100% with this. Trump didn’t want mass quarantine but crumbled against his instinct and listened to Dr Slouchy. Time to fire him and move on with opening country. This will go down as one of the biggest mistakes humanity has ever made when all the costs are added up. 

Amigo, KD is arguing above that Trump didn't take intervention and mitigation measures sooner because of Fauci.

And here you are saying that Trump overreacted and was too aggressive because of Fauci.

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27 minutes ago, boots11234 said:

Agree 100% with this. Trump didn’t want mass quarantine but crumbled against his instinct and listened to Dr Slouchy. Time to fire him and move on with opening country. This will go down as one of the biggest mistakes humanity has ever made when all the costs are added up. 

He spends 10 minutes everyday telling us how 2 million people would have died without states closing down.

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1 hour ago, boots11234 said:

It’s concerning YouTube removed that video of the two E.R. docs who dared to say we should lift the quarantine as the numbers don’t support it. There goes free speech 

The amount of censoring done by those on the Left is very troubling, from “news” sources, to big money tech like YouTube/Facebook, to chat rooms. Those doctors were much more knowledgeable on the subject than those trying to censor the message, very concerning. 

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