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Again, they still stated their concern. 
 

But even if you were 100% correct in your assertion, and CNN is completely hypocritical and full of crap, I still don’t get your point. Fauci says this rally is dangerous because there’s going to be a ton of people crowded together inside without face masks. Either he’s right or he isn’t. Is he right? 
I don't believe CNN would purposely encourage protesting like that if covid 19 was that dangerous.

93% of covid deaths had underlying conditions i,e. cancer, diabetes, heart failure. 

If you have a serious underlying condition you shouldnt go to a rally, or a protest, but if you don't you're actually really safe from the virus.

 
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I can only tell you what I saw. If you want to think that CNN is going to be more sympathetic to protests over Floyd’s death than they will be to a Trump rally, I’m not going to disagree with that. But it doesn’t change the essential facts of the matter. Either the rally is a public health risk or it isn’t. 
The Rally is a public health risk, Tim.  I stated that plain as day.  I've said it probably 10 times in various threads.  I have not and will not argue that with you.

My POINT was that CNN does an article "Over 1,000 health officials say not to shut down protests for COVID"  and "What Dr. Fauci wants you to know about COVID at the rallies."

Either protests are a public health risk or they aren't. 

 
I don't believe CNN would purposely encourage protesting like that if covid 19 was that dangerous.

93% of covid deaths had underlying conditions i,e. cancer, diabetes, heart failure. 

If you have a serious underlying condition you shouldnt go to a rally, or a protest, but if you don't you're actually really safe from the virus.
You do realize that a healthy person could catch the virus at a rally and then give it to an older or unhealthy family member right? 

 
The Rally is a public health risk, Tim.  I stated that plain as day.  I've said it probably 10 times in various threads.  I have not and will not argue that with you.

My POINT was that CNN does an article "Over 1,000 health officials say not to shut down protests for COVID"  and "What Dr. Fauci wants you to know about COVID at the rallies."

Either protests are a public health risk or they aren't. 
That’s fine if you want to make that point. I won’t argue it beyond repeating that it wasn’t my impression from watching CNN that there was a double standard. Based on what you have pointed out there may have been a double standard on their website,  but that is read by less than 1% of those who watch the channel, so I would argue it’s significance. 
 

But again, even if you’re right, you should realize that people are using your argument to justify the risk of the rally. 

 
I don't believe CNN would purposely encourage protesting like that if covid 19 was that dangerous.

93% of covid deaths had underlying conditions i,e. cancer, diabetes, heart failure. 

If you have a serious underlying condition you shouldnt go to a rally, or a protest, but if you don't you're actually really safe from the virus.
They didn't purposely encourage protesting. Please.

 
That’s fine if you want to make that point. I won’t argue it beyond repeating that it wasn’t my impression from watching CNN that there was a double standard. Based on what you have pointed out there may have been a double standard on their website,  but that is read by less than 1% of those who watch the channel, so I would argue it’s significance. 
 

But again, even if you’re right, you should realize that people are using your argument to justify the risk of the rally. 
Sure Tim, those people don't speak for me. 

Both are bad.  But I'm going to call out the double standard of "We must protest," and "All other forms of public gathering are bad."

 
They didn't purposely encourage protesting. Please.
This is again fiction- but it’s an important fiction. 
 

The scale of the protests took everyone by surprise- CNN as much as anyone else. It was a spontaneous event. But many conservatives these days have trouble accepting spontaneous events from the left. That’s why conspiracy theories are so popular. The media spurred it on. Or Soros paid people to do it. Or BLM or Antifa. The notion that regular people just got pissed off and decided to protest in large numbers is not something they are comfortable with. 

 
they did when this posted this article

Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don't shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse 
Dude, 1000 health professionals signing a letter on anything is newsworthy - it was a news piece and CNN is a news station. Reporting on it was not an endorsement or an editorial by CNN.

 
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I thought Trump’s speech today was rather lethargic. I’m wondering what the cadets thought, given the fact that the President has so alienated the military.  

 
That this is even close with the complete debacle that we are in would be the only positive thing I’d take away if I were a MAGA guy.

Anyone should be up double digits right now.  

 
A fake news poll from Fox has him ahead of Trump 46% to 42%.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-ahead-in-arizona-kelly-trouncing-mcsally-in-senate-race.amp

In a head-to-head presidential ballot test, Democrat Joe Biden edges President Donald Trump by 46-42 percent.  Another 11 percent are still up for grabs.  Biden’s 4-point advantage is within the poll’s margin of sampling error.
What does this even mean, that 51% of those polled aren't interested in the election?  "Among the 49 percent of voters who are extremely interested in the election, Biden leads Trump by a 52-42 percent margin."

Also, I didn't see it in the article, did they say what the make up of those polled was?

 
What does this even mean, that 51% of those polled aren't interested in the election?  "Among the 49 percent of voters who are extremely interested in the election, Biden leads Trump by a 52-42 percent margin."

Also, I didn't see it in the article, did they say what the make up of those polled was?
That isn't what it says:

"Among the 49 percent of voters who are extremely interested in the election,"

If 49% are extremely interested that doesn't mean the other 51% are not interested at all.  

 
A fake news poll from Fox has him ahead of Trump 46% to 42%.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-biden-ahead-in-arizona-kelly-trouncing-mcsally-in-senate-race.amp

In a head-to-head presidential ballot test, Democrat Joe Biden edges President Donald Trump by 46-42 percent.  Another 11 percent are still up for grabs.  Biden’s 4-point advantage is within the poll’s margin of sampling error.
Thank you for this post that put the MAGA Thread over 500 pages.  Awesome 

To commemorate this milestone a sizable donation will be made to the Trump campaign in your name.  Please PM me your information, so that you are properly recognized by the campaign. 
 

MAGA

 
Dude, 1000 health professionals signing a letter on anything is newsworthy - it was a news piece and CNN is a news station. Reporting on it was not an endorsement or an editorial by CNN.
if a 1000 health professionals signed a letter saying it was okay to reopen the country and go back to work would CNN report on it? We both know the answer to that, but you'll pretend it isn't the answer we know it is.

I don't get what people have to gain by spending all their time not being sincere, just to promote their side. Are you just really bored?

Hopefully on the next topic you'll be more honest. Thanks, have a nice day.

 
if a 1000 health professionals signed a letter saying it was okay to reopen the country and go back to work would CNN report on it? We both know the answer to that, but you'll pretend it isn't the answer we know it is.

I don't get what people have to gain by spending all their time not being sincere, just to promote their side. Are you just really bored?

Hopefully on the next topic you'll be more honest. Thanks, have a nice day.
Yes - assuming it was 1000 legitimate credentialed health professionals. That would be newsworthy too.

 
That isn't what it says:

"Among the 49 percent of voters who are extremely interested in the election,"

If 49% are extremely interested that doesn't mean the other 51% are not interested at all.  
So I opened the results.

Questions #2 and #3 are the ones that matter.  How motivated are you to vote and who would you vote for.  The segments in #3 (who would you vote for) where Joe Biden kills Trump, Whites under age 45 and Non-Whites (two age categories) are the least motivated.  Those groups are between 20-30% either only somewhat motivated or not motivated at all.  The groups where Trump beats Biden (whites age 45+) is only 12%.  That's a telling number.

This is why polls don't mean much.  It's all about motivation.  Bernie found out, there's a difference between saying you'd vote and actually voting.  

 
So I opened the results.

Questions #2 and #3 are the ones that matter.  How motivated are you to vote and who would you vote for.  The segments in #3 (who would you vote for) where Joe Biden kills Trump, Whites under age 45 and Non-Whites (two age categories) are the least motivated.  Those groups are between 20-30% either only somewhat motivated or not motivated at all.  The groups where Trump beats Biden (whites age 45+) is only 12%.  That's a telling number.

This is why polls don't mean much.  It's all about motivation.  Bernie found out, there's a difference between saying you'd vote and actually voting.  
No actually Bernie found out what the annual Gallup poll had been saying for years, that the biggest disqualifier for people in voting for President was being a Socialist. 

 
So I opened the results.

Questions #2 and #3 are the ones that matter.  How motivated are you to vote and who would you vote for.  The segments in #3 (who would you vote for) where Joe Biden kills Trump, Whites under age 45 and Non-Whites (two age categories) are the least motivated.  Those groups are between 20-30% either only somewhat motivated or not motivated at all.  The groups where Trump beats Biden (whites age 45+) is only 12%.  That's a telling number.

This is why polls don't mean much.  It's all about motivation.  Bernie found out, there's a difference between saying you'd vote and actually voting.  
I love these guys and the media pushing these polls like crazy right now. It’s going to make it all the more hilarious when Biden embarrasses himself on the debate stage in October and his numbers collapse.

 
Don't have a pulse on Arizona but I know Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania, prior to 2016, has been typically blue. Obviously I don’t know it like you do. But why shouldn’t it return to the Obama coalition with Biden? Wasn’t Trump’s victory there last time largely due to dislike of Hillary? 

 
A little sage advice from Dan Bongino 👍

@dbongino

WARNING:This fight is coming to your door. All of us will be forced to pick a side. I wish it weren’t so, but it is. They won’t leave you alone. You’re not their opponent, you’re their enemy. The sooner you recognize this, the better prepared you’ll be for the moment it hits home

 
I love these guys and the media pushing these polls like crazy right now. It’s going to make it all the more hilarious when Biden embarrasses himself on the debate stage in October and his numbers collapse.
So what you’re predicting is that the debates will destroy Biden and give Trump the victory in the election? 
I’m curious: when do you think the last time was that debates had a decisive or even significant impact on a Presidential election? 

 
A little sage advice from Dan Bongino 👍

@dbongino

WARNING:This fight is coming to your door. All of us will be forced to pick a side. I wish it weren’t so, but it is. They won’t leave you alone. You’re not their opponent, you’re their enemy. The sooner you recognize this, the better prepared you’ll be for the moment it hits home
Really sad. 

I don’t want to be anyone’s enemy. As far as I’m concerned you guys are the opponents. 

 
A little sage advice from Dan Bongino 👍

@dbongino

WARNING:This fight is coming to your door. All of us will be forced to pick a side. I wish it weren’t so, but it is. They won’t leave you alone. You’re not their opponent, you’re their enemy. The sooner you recognize this, the better prepared you’ll be for the moment it hits home
No one is “coming to your door.” This dude is one sick puppy if he honestly thinks that. Paranoia and a siege mentality are a bad combination. 

 
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So what you’re predicting is that the debates will destroy Biden and give Trump the victory in the election? 
I’m curious: when do you think the last time was that debates had a decisive or even significant impact on a Presidential election? 
This thing has been wrapped up almost a year now for Trump, but basically yes. People who haven’t been following Biden in the basement will be horrified this is the same guy the media has been hyping up with huge poll numbers 24/7. It’s going to have a huge impact. 

I think in 2016 the last one with Hillary had a huge impact.

 
This thing has been wrapped up almost a year now for Trump, but basically yes. People who haven’t been following Biden in the basement will be horrified this is the same guy the media has been hyping up with huge poll numbers 24/7. It’s going to have a huge impact. 

I think in 2016 the last one with Hillary had a huge impact.
Perhaps you should be more concerned with the possibly deteriorating mental and physical health of your own candidate.

#TrumpIsNotWell is the top trending hashtag in the country after Trump at West Point needed two hands to drink water because he couldn’t get the glass to his mouth. Following that he was seen having trouble walking down a ramp.

Discussion at below link. 

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpIsNotWell&src=trend_click

 
A little sage advice from Dan Bongino 👍

@dbongino

WARNING:This fight is coming to your door. All of us will be forced to pick a side. I wish it weren’t so, but it is. They won’t leave you alone. You’re not their opponent, you’re their enemy. The sooner you recognize this, the better prepared you’ll be for the moment it hits home
Which fight is this? Who is the “they?” 
 

I don’t think dividing the nation and telling them to pick sides as enemies is good. We are on the same team, we just have different ideas. 

 
Perhaps you should be more concerned with the possibly deteriorating mental and physical health of your own candidate.

#TrumpIsNotWell is the top trending hashtag in the country after Trump at West Point needed two hands to drink water because he couldn’t get the glass to his mouth. Following that he was seen having trouble walking down a ramp.

Discussion at below link. 

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpIsNotWell&src=trend_click
:rolleyes:

Probably has an elbow issue.  He hasn’t been playing much golf. 
 

The set up had steep narrow stairs.  Nobody is going to take a chance Father Trump does a Hillary Faceplant. 
 

 
Pennsylvania, prior to 2016, has been typically blue. Obviously I don’t know it like you do. But why shouldn’t it return to the Obama coalition with Biden? Wasn’t Trump’s victory there last time largely due to dislike of Hillary? 
Because the current Democratic leadership.  The Southeast portion of the State tells the tale in PA and the disgust for the current Democratic leadership both statewide and locally has turned off a lot of blue voters.  I've spoken with a number of people who were "vote blue no matter who" who are voting Trump and even changing their party affiliation here.  The Democratic incumbents in the primaries here took a beating.  4 have lost and 3 more are waiting on mail in ballot tabulation.  

 
What exactly are you mocking?  Do you mock Joe Biden's speech issues?  
I personally think denigration of our politicians is an ugly, undesirable factor that really has grown to horrendous levels under this President. He has done it since 2015 to Republicans, Democrats, soldiers, heroes, others. Having said that not only has Trump opened the door to this he’s especially invited it with his tweet last night and his constant mocking of Biden. He’s made physical and mental ability an actual substantive issue in this campaign, even as his mocking of almost every subject under the sun is one of the features his followers find most enjoyable and desirable.

As for Biden, yeah the mockery has been underway, some of it reflecting serious cognitive issues and some purely explainable by normal context. I think it’s fair to make a normal comp between the two candidates on this level.

 
“He’s using two hands to drink a glass of water” may be the most ridiculous faux outrage yet. 
I have yet to see anyone express outrage, but many people have found it concerning that Trump's needs two hands to drink a glass of water.

If there was a video of Biden doing this, you would post it here as evidence of his mental and physical decline, no?

 
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“He’s using two hands to drink a glass of water” may be the most ridiculous faux outrage yet. 
Do you know how far into decline your cognitive skills have to be to need a second hand to help you get a glass of water to your mouth? For a guy who mocks crippled people, he points out Biden and pelosi's age-related decline on a daily basis, his fair game. He went down that ramp  yesterday like a 95 year old.  Trump has the option to stop making fun of people for their physical and age-related limitations. And considering he's much farther along in his decline than anyone he makes fun of, he should probably go that route

 
I’m concerned about the drinking thing and his odd spasms he has been having for sure. 

Now walking down that ramp in his 3 inch pumps is probably a sketchy situation and discretion is the better part of valor. 

 
A little sage advice from Dan Bongino 👍

@dbongino

WARNING:This fight is coming to your door. All of us will be forced to pick a side. I wish it weren’t so, but it is. They won’t leave you alone. You’re not their opponent, you’re their enemy. The sooner you recognize this, the better prepared you’ll be for the moment it hits home
Disgusting and unintelligent. Simmer down Dan.

 
I have yet to see anyone express outrage, but many people have found it concerning that Trump's needs two hands to drink a glass of water.

If there was a video of Biden doing this, you would post it here as evidence of his mental and physical decline, no?
I’ve been drinking with two hands since I saw Father Trump do it.  I think it will become a fad.  

 
I'm more than half Trump's age, and I'd be walking down the ramp that way too. That looked to be about an 8-10 foot decline with a 1 foot tall "handrail" on each side. Idk about Trump, but I'm pretty bad with heights and 10 feet with such little guard on the sides would be enough for me to take baby steps too.

The water one, debate amongst yourselves.

 

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