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1 minute ago, knowledge dropper said:

:shrug:

He donates his Presidential salary to worthy causes quarterly.   

What a lame smoke screen...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/07/21/how-donald-trump-moved-millions-from-his-campaign-donors-to-his-private-business/#73dc251c735c

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1 hour ago, Chaz McNulty said:

But the whole enabling White Supremacist thing hurts him.  That's one thing that Biden doesn't do.

If you look at the facts, Biden is way worse. The media just makes people think it's the other way.

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24 minutes ago, Chaz McNulty said:

Here's a question and I am not sure if there's much data on this.  How many White Nationalist marches or parades happened during Obama's 8 years compared with Trump's 4 years?

Being from Canada, I was just surprised that these still existed.  It seems from my perspective that racism was hidden for the last number of years, but now it seems to be out in the open under Trump.  Like these people are emboldened.  Again, just my perspective.

I dont think its more out in the open. It's just that the media has reported on these fringe groups much more often since Trump has been in office. These groups are small in number and have always held silly rallies like these. The media attention in the last four years has simply elevated their profile and these groups have attempted to capitalize on the media attention.  Keep in mind that the ADL and SPLC acknowledge that groups like the Klan have relatively tiny membership numbers across the country. The other thing the media has done is attempt to link strictly nationalist groups, that dont have a racial or ethnic component, to white supremacist organizations or beliefs. Case in point labelling the Proud Boys as White Supremacists when their membership is not restricted to white males and the head of the organization is an American of Afro-Cuban heritage. 

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5 minutes ago, Max Power said:

If you look at the facts, Biden is way worse. The media just makes people think it's the other way.

The media?  FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE:

 

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President Trump's hesitation, once again, to denounce white supremacy during Tuesday's presidential debate is drawing quick condemnation from anti-racism activists — as are his unusual comments directed at a white supremacist group called the Proud Boys.

During an exchange on the debate stage, moderator Chris Wallace repeatedly asked Trump if he would condemn white supremacists. Trump initially sidestepped that question, claiming that he mostly sees violence "from the left wing."

Trump eventually responded to Wallace's question by referring to a white supremacist group, saying, "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.

 

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4 minutes ago, General Malaise said:
11 minutes ago, Max Power said:

If you look at the facts, Biden is way worse. The media just makes people think it's the other way.

The media?  FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE:

 

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President Trump's hesitation, once again, to denounce white supremacy during Tuesday's presidential debate is drawing quick condemnation from anti-racism activists — as are his unusual comments directed at a white supremacist group called the Proud Boys.

During an exchange on the debate stage, moderator Chris Wallace repeatedly asked Trump if he would condemn white supremacists. Trump initially sidestepped that question, claiming that he mostly sees violence "from the left wing."

Trump eventually responded to Wallace's question by referring to a white supremacist group, saying, "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.

 

:mellow:

Serious question. How exactly are the Proud Boys a White Supremacist organization? You would think a white supremacist organization would limit its membership to white people. The Proud Boys do not. You'd think that a White Supremacist organization would at least be led by a white person. The Proud Boys are not. Enrique Tarrio is an American of Afro-Cuban heritage. Not exactly the poster boy for white supremacy. 

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6 hours ago, Snotbubbles said:

The Democratic party should be scared going forward.  With Trump in their corner, the Republican party is super unified.  Imagine a traditional politician (like say Ted Cruz), with Trump campaigning for him around the country, running on a similar platform as today without the personality negatives that turn off a lot of voters.  The independents would flock to the right, especially if the running opponent is an uber-progressive like Kamala Harris.    

This is a good point, although I don’t see Ted Cruz being the guy to pull in independents.   
 

The real question (if Trump loses) is will the GOP shift towards a more electable candidate?

 

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Chaz McNulty said:

Here's a question and I am not sure if there's much data on this.  How many White Nationalist marches or parades happened during Obama's 8 years compared with Trump's 4 years?

Being from Canada, I was just surprised that these still existed.  It seems from my perspective that racism was hidden for the last number of years, but now it seems to be out in the open under Trump.  Like these people are emboldened.  Again, just my perspective.

No idea, I wasn't aware there was some enormous amount of white supremacy marches happening ever.   

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8 minutes ago, Spanky267 said:

Serious question. How exactly are the Proud Boys a White Supremacist organization? You would think a white supremacist organization would limit its membership to white people. The Proud Boys do not. You'd think that a White Supremacist organization would at least be led by a white person. The Proud Boys are not. Enrique Tarrio is an American of Afro-Cuban heritage. Not exactly the poster boy for white supremacy. 

Biden brought up the Proud Boys.  I'm not even sure Trump knew who they were.  I didn't.

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Just now, Snotbubbles said:

Biden brought up the Proud Boys.  I'm not even sure Trump knew who they were.  I didn't.

Trump specifically stated that he didnt know who the Proud Boys were. I'm not a Trump supporter but this portrayal of that exchange as a signal to White Supremacists is laughable at best and journalistic malpractice at worst.

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4 minutes ago, Spanky267 said:

Trump specifically stated that he didnt know who the Proud Boys were. I'm not a Trump supporter but this portrayal of that exchange as a signal to White Supremacists is laughable at best and journalistic malpractice at worst.

Well, Trump should have just said "I denounce all hate groups" (even though he done so repeatedly) instead of "Stand down, Stand by".  

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24 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The proud boys aren't a white supremacist group. They have denounced it and their leader isnt even a white guy! 

Now let's do Robert Byrd

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The far-right Proud Boys group whom Donald Trump told to “stand by” during this week’s presidential debate is seen as a dangerous organization by law enforcement, according to leaked assessments of the organization from federal, state and local agencies.

Trump’s refusal to condemn white supremacists during the debate, and his suggestion that the Proud Boys “stand by” during the current 2020 election campaign sent shockwaves through American politics. The Southern Poverty Law Center calls the Proud Boys a hate group.

Files from the Blueleaks trove of leaked law enforcement documents reveal warnings about the Proud Boys, who some of the US agencies label as “white supremacists” and “extremists”, and others as a “gang”, showing persistent concerns about the group’s menace to minority groups and even police officers, and its dissemination of dangerous conspiracy theories.

 

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First paragraph in Wiki.....

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The Proud Boys is a far-right[2][3] and neo-fascist[4] male-only organization[5] that promotes and engages in political violence in the United States and Canada.[6][7][8][9][10] While the group officially rejects racism, several members have been affiliated with white supremacy and the Proud Boys has been described by US intelligence organisations as "a dangerous white supremacist group."[11][12][13][14] The group originated in the far-right Taki's Magazine[15] in 2016 under the leadership of Vice Media co-founder and former commentator Gavin McInnes, taking its name from the song "Proud of Your Boy" from the 2011 Disney musical Aladdin.[16][17] Although the Proud Boys emerged as part of the alt-right, McInnes distanced himself from this movement in early 2017, saying the Proud Boys was "alt-light" while the alt-right's focus was race.[18] The re-branding effort intensified following the white supremacist Unite the Right rally.[19] Since early 2019, Enrique Tarrio, who identifies as Afro-Cuban, has been the chairman of the Proud Boys.[2][20][21]

They doth protest too much, me thinks......

 

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15 minutes ago, Snotbubbles said:

Well, Trump should have just said "I denounce all hate groups" (even though he done so repeatedly) instead of "Stand down, Stand by".  

There’s a video of Trump denouncing these groups 38 times.  I wish the moderators would start cracking down on those that keep pushing this narrative.   

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31 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

First paragraph in Wiki.....

They doth protest too much, me thinks......

 

"The group officially rejects racism" and whoever edited the bolded should learn to spell. This is why Wiki isn't source material. 

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1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

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He donates his Presidential salary to worthy causes quarterly.   

You really think Trump will spend his time "campaigning... around the country" for anyone other than himself?... especially "a sniveling coward"* like "Lyin' Ted"*.

*Trump's words, not mine

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24 minutes ago, Max Power said:

"The group officially rejects racism" and whoever edited the bolded should learn to spell. This is why Wiki isn't source material. 

Most racists say they aren't racist.  In fact some say "no one has ever done more for the black community than me".

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25 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

Oh, well I'm convinced then.  Proud Boys are just a harmonious group of guys who like to play dress-up with no trace of any sort of bigotry or hatred, founded by super nice guy Gavin McInnes who also has not one racist bone in  his body.  :thumbup:

Moved on from defending the Portland rioters?

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14 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Democrats aren’t going to denounce actual threats or people rioting, looting or burning down cities. Cmon, man. It’s the Poor Boys fault!

Biden already did this.  :shrug:

Sorry to use a partisan source but here you go.

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3 hours ago, Ramblin Wreck said:

The Girl Scouts tweeted congratuations to ACB for the SCOTUS seat and got shamed into retracting that tweet.  The libs are just disgusting.

This should really be it’s own thread. Prime example of what the Democrat Party has become. They will bully and cancel anybody who gets in their way or don’t agree with.

This is why I laugh when I see the neocons, Never Trumpers and FBG “independents” (who aren’t really independent) saying they are voting for Biden. Most of them have no idea the pain they are in if Biden somehow wins. 

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18 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

This should really be it’s own thread. Prime example of what the Democrat Party has become. They will bully and cancel anybody who gets in their way or don’t agree with.

This is why I laugh when I see the neocons, Never Trumpers and FBG “independents” (who aren’t really independent) saying they are voting for Biden. Most of them have no idea the pain they are in if Biden somehow wins. 

Yep they talk about Trumps behavior but yet their own behavior is to bully and threaten anyone on the other side.  Then they turn around and state how divisive things are and how can we all come together.  They aren’t interested in anything but shoving their politics down America’s throat.  No negotiation.  No compromise.  Their way or they online bully and threaten people like the Girl Scouts.  I would actually support many of the things they claim as their agenda but their actions are so gross I can’t vote for any of them.  

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56 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

This should really be it’s own thread. Prime example of what the Democrat Party has become. They will bully and cancel anybody who gets in their way or don’t agree with.

This is why I laugh when I see the neocons, Never Trumpers and FBG “independents” (who aren’t really independent) saying they are voting for Biden. Most of them have no idea the pain they are in if Biden somehow wins. 

I'm one of the "FBG independents" voting for Biden, what kind of pain are we talking here?  

Don't hold back, I can take it, I just came from the hemorrhoid thread.

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4 minutes ago, Lehigh98 said:

I'm one of the "FBG independents" voting for Biden, what kind of pain are we talking here?  

Don't hold back, I can take it, I just came from the hemorrhoid thread.

That thread is a trip. But I'm an independent voter who voted for Biden as well, and I find myself highly suspicious of Trump and Co's scare tactics.

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3 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

More good news guys-

Chuck Callesto@ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Officials at The Department of Justice have CONFIRMED Hunter Biden and his business associates are CURRENTLY UNDER ACTIVE criminal investigation by the FBI...

https://twitter.com/chuckcallesto/status/1321934984966479872?s=21

Oh boy, another October surprise.  Have they never heard of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"?

At least its from a trustworthy source, a "Talent Manager" / James McCoy Taylor's booking manager.

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9 hours ago, Max Power said:

I took it as you implying that Trump wont have the same success selling speeches for 500k a pop because the people he appeals to don't have that kind of money.

Cant wait to see what his multi-million dollar "book deal" comes out to. 

There's going to be multi-million book deals; Trump will get them.....but so will a whole lot of other people who have been in the administration.  

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Lil Wayne endorses Trump

https://twitter.com/LilTunechi/status/1321941986174226432?s=20

Lil Wayne WEEZY F

@LilTunechi

Just had a great meeting with

@realdonaldtrump

@potus

besides what he’s done so far with criminal reform, the platinum plan is going to give the community real ownership. He listened to what we had to say today and assured he will and can get it done.

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17 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

More good news guys-

Chuck Callesto@ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Officials at The Department of Justice have CONFIRMED Hunter Biden and his business associates are CURRENTLY UNDER ACTIVE criminal investigation by the FBI...

https://twitter.com/chuckcallesto/status/1321934984966479872?s=21

So you're showing us this breaking news from an individual's twitter account, rather than anything from the Dept of Justice.  Yeah, I'll believe it.

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1 hour ago, Widbil83 said:

More good news guys-

Chuck Callesto@ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Officials at The Department of Justice have CONFIRMED Hunter Biden and his business associates are CURRENTLY UNDER ACTIVE criminal investigation by the FBI...

https://twitter.com/chuckcallesto/status/1321934984966479872?s=21

Hunter Biden's chances of getting elected are plummeting.

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