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44 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I did. I have no idea who the Election Wizard is or his source so I have no idea if the information there is trustworthy. 
But assuming that it is all true, it’s still YOU that made the leap from error to willful fraud. What you presented does not do that. If you’re going to make that sort of accusation, you need to have direct proof to back it up. 

You went from evidence to proof. The evidence is there. It was documented and submitted back to the state to review. 

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42 minutes ago, moleculo said:

this is why they have a mandatory recount for <0.5%.  Mistakes happen.  It's human nature.  The fact that this was caught is proof that the process works and is self correcting, not of some nefarious plot to cheat.

Who caught the error? The people certifying or poll watchers? I think this proves we need more observers.

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20 minutes ago, Doug B said:

That particular error was a tabulation error in the ongoing hand audit -- the original machine count was apparently accurate.

I'm still wondering how 10,000ish votes were certified correct, with only 1,000ish ballots in the batch. That is more than a simple error and needs serious investigation. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

Who caught the error? The people certifying or poll watchers? I think this proves we need more observers.

not really.  From the sounds of it, this was a tabulation error, caught when a discrepancy between number of votes cast vs sum of votes for each candidate didn't match up, or match up with the machine tally.  From the sounds of it, it has nothing to do with the watchers.

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

I'm still wondering how 10,000ish votes were certified correct, with only 1,000ish ballots in the batch. That is more than a simple error and needs serious investigation. 

I don't believe it was certified correct.

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Just now, Max Power said:

I'm still wondering how 10,000ish votes were certified correct, with only 1,000ish ballots in the batch. That is more than a simple error and needs serious investigation. 

Were they?

I really don't want to go off tweets to inform myself of what happened here. But the tweets posted in thread make me think nothing untoward happened.

Are we ever going to see old-line media report on this story?

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1 minute ago, moleculo said:

not really.  From the sounds of it, this was a tabulation error, caught when a discrepancy between number of votes cast vs sum of votes for each candidate didn't match up, or match up with the machine tally.  From the sounds of it, it has nothing to do with the watchers.

One of our monitors discovered a 9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count.

it doesnt say the certification process caught the error. It said this batch was already signed off on.

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

In my mind I dont think 1,000 ballots would be mistaken for 10,000. With the entire margin going to the same candidate. 

How did this get certified?

It was a simple mistake.  The person calling out the hand vote count called 10k instead of 1k.  Had nothing to do with the machine vote count.  If no one had noticed, this large a discrepancy would have been audited and discovered.

Absolutely nothing nefarious. 

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38 minutes ago, moleculo said:

let me add one more thing here: the AP still has not called GA.  According to the AP, Biden has 290 electoral college votes, Trump has 232.  Georgia's 16 are undeclared, pending the recount.  This is the process working. 

Trust the process.

But what about all the smoke?!

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

One of our monitors discovered a 9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count.

it doesnt say the certification process caught the error. It said this batch was already signed off on.

does signed off = certified?  in my experience, certified means signed off by an independent reviewer.  I can count something and sign my name that it is correct. But for my count to be certified, it needs to be reviewed by someone else.

ETA: if one of the monitors caught it, good for them!  nice catch!  We should applaud their work in ensuring a fair and safe election. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

One of our monitors discovered a 9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count.

it doesnt say the certification process caught the error. It said this batch was already signed off on.

We have no source for the part in red. Here is David Shafer's original tweet:

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David Shafer  @DavidShafer · 2h

One of our monitors discovered a 9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count. One batch was labeled 10,707 for Biden and 13 for Trump - an improbable margin even by DeKalb standards. The actual count for the batch was 1,081 for Biden and 13 for Trump.

 

Admittedly speculation, but I offer it anyway: One easy way for 1,077 to turn into 10,707 is to type numbers in sloppily on a ten-key (adding machine or computer keyboard). You're typing in "1-0-" but then you don't release the zero quick enough before hitting the seven, which yields "1-0-7-0-". Then press the seven to complete the entry, and "1,077" renders as "10,707".

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5 hours ago, Gr00vus said:

Trump should never have even sniffed the Presidency. He has zero qualifications for the job, no moral fortitude to handle it, and a self serving bent that's allowed possibly the most corrupt administration we've ever had. It's a real black mark on U.S. history that he got there.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections

 

"What does voter turnout tell us about the 2016 election?

By —

Michael D. Regan

Politics Nov 20, 2016 3:03 PM EST

The vast majority of ballots have been counted nearly two weeks after one of the biggest political upsets in modern U.S. history catapulted Donald Trump to the presidency.

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But among those figures were stark contrasts in key states that helped swing the election to Trump — in Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan and elsewhere — indicating the President-elect’s leap from long-shot candidate to the most powerful political position in the world may have happened in part because of apathy toward Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, especially among the Democratic base, several political scientists and organizations monitoring voter turnout told the PBS NewsHour.

While Clinton is leading the popular vote by more than 1.5 million over Trump as of Sunday, she trails President Obama’s 2012 totals by more than 2 million ballots — a chasm that may have cost her the election, said David Becker, co-founder of the Center for Election and Innovation and Research.

“Several million voters didn’t come out to vote,” Becker said. “Which is telling me that this idea of the Trump wave, a huge number of voters shifting over to Trump, is certainly not the story.”

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“You saw turnout spike in more rural counties,” Alexander said. “If you take a look at a lot of the larger cities you did see depressed turnout there. It certainly was more consequential for Hillary Clinton than it was for Trump.”

..... Clinton also did not perform as well as Obama with core Democratic blocs, including blue collar people.

“I don’t know if it’s so much this fleeing of the blue collar people to Donald Trump,” Alexander said. “But I think there’s a lot of blue collar individuals that the Democrats typically rely on. Those are the folks who didn’t show up.”

Clinton also pulled in a lower share of voters between ages 18 and 29 than Obama did during his two campaigns, Becker said.

Preliminary national exit polls released in the days after the election showed the contest was divided by race, gender and education, though black and Latino minorities did not turn out like they had for Obama and women did not show up for Clinton to the extent that many had predicted.....

“I think there’s warning signs in both parties,” Becker said. “Obviously Democrats are losing votes and Republicans aren’t really building their base. The numbers they’re getting are holding pretty consistent. That should be troubling when the electorate is on the older side.”

 

 

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Trump did not win in 2016. His chances to prevail in this election cycle are basically close to zero, he'll need multiple legal Hail Marys in a row but it was actually pretty close if you consider he was going up against basically the entire establishment by himself.

Again, Trump did not win as much as the DNC and Hillary Clinton lost. That's the narrative NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. If you dominate the MSM, Big Tech, social media, Hollywood, the entire education system, come from a political dynasty and legacy, have the draw of being the first woman POTUS ever along with the largest financial war chest any politician has ever seen, how do you lose?

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-clinton-campaign-fundraising-totals-232400

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/07/16/423358905/5-things-weve-learned-about-2016-presidential-fundraising

 

Clinton will blame the Comey letter. Which Nate Silver of 538 ( You can argue if he ever has credibility anymore) said swung the election about 3 percent, which was just enough for Trump to win. Whose fault was that to set up a private email server in one of her homes and use that non secure Blackberry when she was advised not to do so?  ( She was powerful, geriatric, arrogant and not a digital native, which all combined to doom her)  That bizarre Comey Rule movie spent exactly three lines of script with the lowest audio possible to have one minor character say Clinton should have known better and put herself in that position.

In another election cycle, that audio of "locker room talk" but Trump disparaging women would have sunk most candidates, until Trump brought all the women that Bill Clinton raped to a press conference right before a major debate. That's on the Clinton family as a whole which was the cost of legacy, Hillary had to pay for that politically.

The DNC LOVED the kind of money Hillary Clinton could raise for the party and their campaigns. That greed got them to groupthink themselves into a situation where they created massive voter apathy. Then they doubled down with Biden, a guy who literally had to be handled and managed ( Obama had to be dusted off to do the stretch run campaigning for him) and thrown basically only softballs by the truly leftist MSM, to conceal the not so big secret about the cognitive problem in play.

No one here talks about Tulsi Gabbard. Who the DNC outright blacklisted and cancelled out. And yet she still openly destroyed Kamala Harris, whom the DNC wishes got the ticket. Gabbard, with full support, would have won 2020 in a landslide. Now in 2024, what's left? The very thin hope that Oprah Winfrey runs? AOC? Newsom? To take on Dan Crenshaw/Nikki Haley?  None of the liberals here are going to mention Dan Crenshaw's name either since HE CAN'T BE CANCELLED. The DNC tries just one dip of the toe in the that pool of character attack/personal attack/cancel culture and the blowback will crush them.  The guy looks like a pirate and he's a combat veteran and he lost his eye fighting for this country for a decade. He's young, will appeal to legacy Republican voters and has a clean profile.  Even just one dumb comment by AOC or Omar or Newsom ( they can't help themselves...) and the DNC loses the entire military / law enforcement vote and will drive moderates/undecideds to the right. Not only did the DNC lose 2016, they nearly lost 2020 and the self inflicted hits ( linked to woke politics/rioting/losing an alarming number of minority voters) will cost him in 2024. 12 HOR seats flipped against all projections and it's very likely the RNC holds the Senate.

Scream Orange Man Bad again and again. It's the blame game. The DNC needed to put forward candidates that the American people could get behind.

With some adjustments, a lot of conservatives would have gone for Tulsi Gabbard. She doesn't carry the stink of Biden's legacy ( Crime Bill, legacy financial payoffs for influence while VP through Hunter Biden, huge questions of dementia that the MSM basically ignored, Biden's continued foot in mouth disease which had to be spun as "Grandpa Joe's Gaffes That Are SO SO CHARMING!" ) or the scandal zone that is the Clinton family. 

I mean why would Americans support a calm measured intelligent young beautiful combat veteran who can handle the press/big stage and who is also a minority and a woman with a relatively clean profile?

Lots about Trump not to like. He's a corrupt narcissist for sure. Everything has to be all about him all the time. And the MSM fed into that for the ratings and profit, which gave him OVER 2 BILLION IN UNPAID MEDIA COVERAGE in 2016. With less exposure, odds are he doesn't win. But the left leaning MSM didn't care that much about the American people did they? Nope, they kept up the Orange Man Bad media blitz because political porn is good for ratings and profit and for those media pundits to push their individual brand. No one wanted to talk about Trump's timing, where he walked in as an outsider when much of the American public was weary of career politicians like Pelosi and their open corruption/condescension.

If it's a "black mark" on American society and political history that Donald Trump was once President, then it's ALSO A BLACK MARK on the DNC, Hillary Clinton, the Bush political dynasty, MSM, Grandpa Joe Biden and greed all along the trail to allow group think and being completely tone deaf to the will of the American people to let it get that far.

Sorry, I interrupted some of you, you were busy SCREAMING ORANGE MAN BAD again and again like it's the only reason 2016 was lost and 2020 was close.

"You want to talk about the splinter in someone else's eye but do not see the plank in your own? "

( Yes, it finally happened, after all these years, even an atheist like Gordon Gekko decided to go full blown Biblical on you )

No one wants to talk about any of this here. You know, things like getting your own game right before deciding to blame others first. Losers play the blame game. Losers don't reflect on what they can do and should be doing better on their end, no matter who is facing them. Losers want to silence accountability of any kind.

How pathetic do you have to be politically to lose to a corrupt outsider with his own legacy of scandal with that kind of political/media/financial firepower at your disposal?

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2 hours ago, Ramblin Wreck said:

I bet there's fewer post about it than the four years worth of Russia nothing burger that the Dems clinged to

34 indictments, seven guilty pleas, five people sentenced to prison, an estimated 7 - 10 instances of obstruction of justice by Trump and his administration

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1 hour ago, timschochet said:

This response used to be a bannable offense because the mods determined that it was obvious trolling- but then again, so is stating “this election is clearly fraudulent” without offering evidence or engaging in discussion. 

We all knew you'd never be able to stay out of this thread because you can't stop posting garbage like this.

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31 minutes ago, James Daulton said:

It was a simple mistake.  The person calling out the hand vote count called 10k instead of 1k.  Had nothing to do with the machine vote count.  If no one had noticed, this large a discrepancy would have been audited and discovered.

Absolutely nothing nefarious. 

 

Would you say the same if the election positions were REVERSED?

If someone called out 10K for Trump instead of 1K? If the situation was those votes would be critical for a Biden scenario where he would mirror Trump's current position?

Or would most of you be enraged and up in arms about it?

What about the dead people voting if they voted for Trump and the situation was reversed?

What about if the count stopped in the middle of the night, the vote count swung in the opposite direction as it did, but this time for Trump and the situation was reversed?

What about the cases were observers were not given access or were put into logistics that were untenable and the situation was reversed?

What about the gaggle of ballots found in dumpsters and the situation was reversed?

What about the accusations that late mail ballots were stamped with an early date postmark and the situation was reversed?

Would the army of hardened liberals in this forum ( some not all) just say , "Hey, absolutely nothing nefarious!"   Or would some of you be climbing the walls and be frothing at the teeth?

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10 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

34 indictments, seven guilty pleas, five people sentenced to prison, an estimated 7 - 10 instances of obstruction of justice by Trump and his administration

Trump was convicted?   Might wanna be careful about tagging FBG Moderator asking if it's okay to post lies in this thread when you're clearly here to troll yourself.

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Just now, Ramblin Wreck said:

Trump was convicted?   Might wanna be careful about tagging FBG Moderator asking if it's okay to post lies in this thread when you're clearly here to troll yourself.

Mueller's testified that he felt there were 10 instances / areas where Trump and his administration obstructed justice during the investigation. 

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37 minutes ago, Max Power said:

One of our monitors discovered a 9,626 vote error in the DeKalb County hand count.

it doesnt say the certification process caught the error. It said this batch was already signed off on.

I think you've misinterpreted what appears to have happened here.

- Original count came back as 1077 votes for Biden
- Hand recount confirmed 1077 votes for Biden
- Poll worker mistakenly keyed in 10707 votes for Biden as result of hand recount
- Significant discrepancy between original count and recount created an alert for someone to review
- Reviewer noticed the error and corrected it back to 1077, which is what the original count said all along

Again, no malfeasance, no issue, everything worked exactly as designed to ensure votes were tabulated correctly.

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21 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

@FBG Moderator is it o.k. to post lies like this on the board? Just checking for future reference.

 

You sure you want to play this game?  Trying to force the 4-5 conservative minded who actually post regularly to play the "Use the Report Button" game?

But hey, once you cancel Toupee, and then you go after me, then Max Power, and Norville Barnes, you'll finally be most of the way to silencing everyone with the crime of having a different political opinion than you.

 

“A choir is made up of many voices, including yours and mine. If one by one all go silent then all that will be left are the soloists. Don’t let a loud few determine the nature of the sound. It makes for poor harmony and diminishes the song.”

― Vera Nazarian, The Perpetual Calendar of Inspiration

 

“No idea is above scrutiny and no people are beneath dignity.”
― Maajid Nawaz, Islam and the Future of Tolerance: A Dialogue

 

“The idea that you have to be protected from any kind of uncomfortable emotion is what I absolutely do not subscribe to.”
― John Cleese

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2 hours ago, Rich Conway said:

I will go out on a limb and suggest that 99.9% of people who believe (actually believe, not just falling in line for fear of angering Trump), as of today, that Biden's victory was not legitimate will never believe it no matter happens in the future.

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45 minutes ago, Doug B said:
48 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I'm still wondering how 10,000ish votes were certified correct, with only 1,000ish ballots in the batch. That is more than a simple error and needs serious investigation. 

Were they?

I really don't want to go off tweets to inform myself of what happened here. But the tweets posted in thread make me think nothing untoward happened.

Are we ever going to see old-line media report on this story?

Researching this a bit ... the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's DeKalb County reporter Tyler Estep DID address this matter on his own Twitter feed.

Meanwhile, Estep and fellow AJC reporter David Wickert are posting a running set of recount updates on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's website (link). Dekalb County completed their recount Sunday night. The 9,000-vote kerfluffle was apparently raised and corrected on the spot that evening.

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44 minutes ago, Doug B said:

We have no source for the part in red. Here is David Shafer's original tweet:

Admittedly speculation, but I offer it anyway: One easy way for 1,077 to turn into 10,707 is to type numbers in sloppily on a ten-key (adding machine or computer keyboard). You're typing in "1-0-" but then you don't release the zero quick enough before hitting the seven, which yields "1-0-7-0-". Then press the seven to complete the entry, and "1,077" renders as "10,707".

Read his whole thread. It wasn't off a typo. His final total was 1,081. That isnt a digit in the wrong place.

David shafer is also the source for the red highlight. It's in that same tweet thread.

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8 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It's his opinion and it's shared by millions.  So calling it a lie is extreme.

 

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Huh?

You said it's extreme to call it a lie.  So why is it extreme?   It seems to be from your sentence that it's either because it can't be a lie because it's his opinion or that it can't be a lie because too many people believe it.  

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7 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Sooo if someone comes on this board and says the earth is flat they should be banned by the moderators?  Is that what you are saying here?

I'd suggest if someone posts something that is intentionally inflammatory, untrue, and provides no evidence to back it up, the post should be deleted and/or the poster given a timeout.  I don't think "the Earth is flat" rises to the level of inflammatory, as it would more likely be seen as unserious and a joke.  If someone repeated it multiple times, then yes, the poster should be given a timeout as it would clearly be trolling.

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Just now, KarmaPolice said:

 

You said it's extreme to call it a lie.  So why is it extreme?   It seems to be from your sentence that it's either because it can't be a lie because it's his opinion or that it can't be a lie because too many people believe it.  

I dont know what you are trying to do here.  But I will just stay out of it.  Go pick on someone else.  I am not even a tiny bit interested in this conversation.  Sorry I replied.

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20 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

I think you've misinterpreted what appears to have happened here.

- Original count came back as 1077 votes for Biden
- Hand recount confirmed 1077 votes for Biden
- Poll worker mistakenly keyed in 10707 votes for Biden as result of hand recount
- Significant discrepancy between original count and recount created an alert for someone to review
- Reviewer noticed the error and corrected it back to 1077, which is what the original count said all along

Again, no malfeasance, no issue, everything worked exactly as designed to ensure votes were tabulated correctly.

You want to blame a single digit typo when it wasnt that.

Back to the question is how did this get signed off on?

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Just now, Rich Conway said:

I'd suggest if someone posts something that is intentionally inflammatory, untrue, and provides no evidence to back it up, the post should be deleted and/or the poster given a timeout.  I don't think "the Earth is flat" rises to the level of inflammatory, as it would more likely be seen as unserious and a joke.  If someone repeated it multiple times, then yes, the poster should be given a timeout as it would clearly be trolling.

Well I don't agree.  There are many that feel this way about Biden. You may not like it, but that doesn't change it.  And being censored because someone wants to share their opinion, is just wrong.  Way way wrong.

Thanks for letting me state my thoughts on this.  Have a good day.

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3 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

I'd suggest if someone posts something that is intentionally inflammatory, untrue, and provides no evidence to back it up, the post should be deleted and/or the poster given a timeout.  I don't think "the Earth is flat" rises to the level of inflammatory, as it would more likely be seen as unserious and a joke.  If someone repeated it multiple times, then yes, the poster should be given a timeout as it would clearly be trolling.

Also, like it or not..there really are people who believe the earth is flat.  Seriously believe it.  So if they post that here and aren't joking, you're saying their posts should be deleted and they get suspended from posting?   No way man. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:
22 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

I think you've misinterpreted what appears to have happened here.

- Original count came back as 1077 votes for Biden
- Hand recount confirmed 1077 votes for Biden
- Poll worker mistakenly keyed in 10707 votes for Biden as result of hand recount
- Significant discrepancy between original count and recount created an alert for someone to review
- Reviewer noticed the error and corrected it back to 1077, which is what the original count said all along

Again, no malfeasance, no issue, everything worked exactly as designed to ensure votes were tabulated correctly.

You want to blame a single digit typo when it wasnt that.

Back to the question is how did this get signed off on?

No one signed off on anything, which is the point.  Literally the opposite happened.

Change any one of the "1077" in my post to "1081" or "1073" if you want.  Are you arguing the chain of events was different than what I wrote above?  If yes, then what was the chain of events as you understand them?  If no, then how do you get to malfeasance or "helps Biden"?

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43 minutes ago, Gr00vus said:

@FBG Moderator is it o.k. to post lies like this on the board? Just checking for future reference.

:potkettle: , glass houses and all that etc

https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/753528-the-russia-investigation-trump-commutes-stones-sentence/?do=findComment&comment=23090753

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6 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Also, like it or not..there really are people who believe the earth is flat.  Seriously believe it.  So if they post that here and aren't joking, you're saying their posts should be deleted and they get suspended from posting?   No way man. 

I agree with Supermike here. if someone believes the earth is flat  they shouldnt get suspended nor should there post be deleted, but then again no one should be suspended for openly mocking their ignorance either.

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2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:
5 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

I'd suggest if someone posts something that is intentionally inflammatory, untrue, and provides no evidence to back it up, the post should be deleted and/or the poster given a timeout.  I don't think "the Earth is flat" rises to the level of inflammatory, as it would more likely be seen as unserious and a joke.  If someone repeated it multiple times, then yes, the poster should be given a timeout as it would clearly be trolling.

Also, like it or not..there really are people who believe the earth is flat.  Seriously believe it.  So if they post that here and aren't joking, you're saying their posts should be deleted and they get suspended from posting?   No way man.

If all of the following are true:
- The posts are intentionally inflammatory
- The posts are verifiable untrue
- The poster provides no evidence of the claim

Yes, the poster should be suspended.  I'm unclear why that would be controversial.

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1 minute ago, Rich Conway said:

If all of the following are true:
- The posts are intentionally inflammatory
- The posts are verifiable untrue
- The poster provides no evidence of the claim

Yes, the poster should be suspended.  I'm unclear why that would be controversial.

Well that's your opinion and I disagree. Thanks for the opinion however.

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40 minutes ago, GordonGekko said:

 

Would you say the same if the election positions were REVERSED?

If someone called out 10K for Trump instead of 1K? If the situation was those votes would be critical for a Biden scenario where he would mirror Trump's current position?

Or would most of you be enraged and up in arms about it?

What about the dead people voting if they voted for Trump and the situation was reversed?

What about if the count stopped in the middle of the night, the vote count swung in the opposite direction as it did, but this time for Trump and the situation was reversed?

What about the cases were observers were not given access or were put into logistics that were untenable and the situation was reversed?

What about the gaggle of ballots found in dumpsters and the situation was reversed?

What about the accusations that late mail ballots were stamped with an early date postmark and the situation was reversed?

Would the army of hardened liberals in this forum ( some not all) just say , "Hey, absolutely nothing nefarious!"   Or would some of you be climbing the walls and be frothing at the teeth?

First of all I'd be embarrassed to be part of a party who's leader acted like Trump.  There is literally zero concrete evidence of any significant, and barely any insignificant, fraud.  He's just stalling and trying to get lucky by throwing anything against the wall he can.  Hillary lost by much less than him and acted with much more class than him.  He was afforded all the rights and privileges as a president elect that he's withholding from good ol' Joe.  imho, Trump is an embarrassment to our nation and to Republicans in general.

That said, if the shoe was on the other foot I'd feel exactly the same about mistaken vote call outs and "stopped" counting.  I'd think they were normal parts of any election and for anyone to contest the results as much as he is the vote gap would have to be much much smaller.  Something like in 2000.

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8 minutes ago, Max Power said:

You want to blame a single digit typo when it wasnt that.

Back to the question is how did this get signed off on?

The machine count came in at 1k, the hand count came in at 1k, when the handcount was written down it was written as 10k.  This mistake was immediately caught and corrected.  It never was intended nor did it ever have a chance to impact the vote count.  Checks and balances worked as prescribed. 

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3 minutes ago, tuffnutt said:

I agree with Supermike here. if someone believes the earth is flat  they shouldnt get suspended nor should there post be deleted, but then again no one should be suspended for openly mocking there ignorance either.

Openly inflammatory is of course not cool.

But someone saying  "Biden's Presidency is fradulent" because they believe the election was rife with fraud, is NOT inflammatory.  In my opinion of course.   

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42 minutes ago, Rich Conway said:

I think you've misinterpreted what appears to have happened here.

- Original count came back as 1077 votes for Biden
- Hand recount confirmed 1077 votes for Biden
- Poll worker mistakenly keyed in 10707 votes for Biden as result of hand recount
- Significant discrepancy between original count and recount created an alert for someone to review
- Reviewer noticed the error and corrected it back to 1077, which is what the original count said all along

Again, no malfeasance, no issue, everything worked exactly as designed to ensure votes were tabulated correctly.

I’m sure this posting of this the 8th time it will get through.  🙄

On this page alone we have people talking about “dead people voting”, whatabouting the Russiagate reaction (without the slightest sense of irony they were blasting the reacting Russiagate people the whole time), calling Biden a fraudulent President (again without the slightest sense of irony as they were the ones blasting the left for non accepting the 2016 election results), and on and on and on.  Yet all these same people decreeing there must be a “fair election” aren’t asking for anything to be looked into in any Trump states anywhere. Do you really think dead people didn’t vote for Trump in other states? Give me a break.  Do you really think there weren’t pulling errors in states that Trump won favoring Trump? Give me a break.  Do you really thing people didn’t try to cheat for Trump too? Please. This isn’t about fair, not one ounce.  It’s about not winning. You don’t want fair, you’re hoping for fraud.  

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