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Believing everything from the MSM is the bigger mistake imo.

The vote manipulation and ruby freeman stuff didnt start with Trump. Hth.
This is a republican election official who released the entire unedited video and went through it all, debunking every allegation.   How does that have anything to do with the MSM?  The Ruby Freeman conspiracy has been thoroughly debunked.  It's false.  It was made up from chopped up video and lies.   Like every other claim of voter fraud, it fell apart in the face of factual information.  Repeating conspiracies doesn't make them any more true.

 
The Georgia State Senate hearing the cctv was shown. I haven't seen officially if an investigation was launched by the GBI. 

The SoS can say all he wants that video was above board, but it clearly wasnt. Georgia can't even get its story straight for the events that night.

Ruby Freeman turned down an interview after initially agreeing to it because now she needed a lawyer.

 
The Georgia State Senate hearing the cctv was shown. I haven't seen officially if an investigation was launched by the GBI. 

The SoS can say all he wants that video was above board, but it clearly wasnt. Georgia can't even get its story straight for the events that night.

Ruby Freeman turned down an interview after initially agreeing to it because now she needed a lawyer.
Do you believe Trump won in all the other states he needs as well?

 
The Georgia State Senate hearing the cctv was shown. I haven't seen officially if an investigation was launched by the GBI. 

The SoS can say all he wants that video was above board, but it clearly wasnt. Georgia can't even get its story straight for the events that night.

Ruby Freeman turned down an interview after initially agreeing to it because now she needed a lawyer.
During the “hearings”...the full video was not shown, correct?

I have already shown you the SOS both stating there was an investigation and offering the link to Trump.  
 

And you can claim it wasn’t above board all you want...it wont make it magically so.

She is smart not be interviewed and get a lawyer...between Trump’s ramblings and the other conspiracy theories out there about her...of course she got a lawyer and won’t comment.  

 
Ruby Freeman turned down an interview after initially agreeing to it because now she needed a lawyer.
Ruby Freeman is a 60 year old lady who runs a kiosk in the mall that sells handbags. She was doxed shortly after the election and has pretty much gone into hiding to protect herself from psycopaths like this

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The Georgia State Senate hearing the cctv was shown. I haven't seen officially if an investigation was launched by the GBI. 

The SoS can say all he wants that video was above board, but it clearly wasnt. Georgia can't even get its story straight for the events that night.

Ruby Freeman turned down an interview after initially agreeing to it because now she needed a lawyer.
Both the FBI and GBI investigated.   The unedited video that debunks this conspiracy is available on the SOS website.  You are repeating debunked conspiracies.   The debunking was done by Republican election officials.

 
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Do you believe Trump won in all the other states he needs as well?
It's hard to know. There are claims made that we never hear the results of. Courts say "no standing" to present it. DOJ doesn't want it. 

I think Matt Braynard's numbers are interesting and need to be vetted. State election officials disregarding his work is bad for election integrity. Which Matt still stands by his numbers and called the GA SoS a liar for the numbers he claimed during the Trump phone call.

I think they should all be examined. 

 
Both the FBI and GBI investigated.   The unedited video that debunks this conspiracy is available on the SOS website.  You are repeating debunked conspiracies.   The debunking was done by Republican election officials.
Can you link me to the GBI and FBI findings?

Also the unedited video? Because the video I watched wasn't edited. 

Did GA election officials tell the poll watchers counting was done for the night? 

 
It's hard to know. There are claims made that we never hear the results of. Courts say "no standing" to present it. DOJ doesn't want it. 

I think Matt Braynard's numbers are interesting and need to be vetted. State election officials disregarding his work is bad for election integrity. Which Matt still stands by his numbers and called the GA SoS a liar for the numbers he claimed during the Trump phone call.

I think they should all be examined. 
Do you have a problem with Chris Kreb's, a life-long R with an impeccable record in cyber security, assessment that there was no fraud. Is he in on the game too?

 
Both the FBI and GBI investigated.   The unedited video that debunks this conspiracy is available on the SOS website.  You are repeating debunked conspiracies.   The debunking was done by Republican election officials.
I was driving home from work and planned to bring up these points later. Thanks.

 
Can you link me to the GBI and FBI findings?

Also the unedited video? Because the video I watched wasn't edited. 

Did GA election officials tell the poll watchers counting was done for the night? 
Your answers are all in Gabriel Sterling's press conference. You watched that, right?   Every one of your conspiracies is addressed and debunked.   

 
It's hard to know. There are claims made that we never hear the results of. Courts say "no standing" to present it. DOJ doesn't want it. 

I think Matt Braynard's numbers are interesting and need to be vetted. State election officials disregarding his work is bad for election integrity. Which Matt still stands by his numbers and called the GA SoS a liar for the numbers he claimed during the Trump phone call.

I think they should all be examined. 
Same Braynard who got destroyed in the hearings?  Why continue to believe people who have continued to be proven liars with zero qualifications?

At this point...guys like him should investigated for presenting fraudulent information .

 
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It's hard to know. There are claims made that we never hear the results of. Courts say "no standing" to present it. DOJ doesn't want it. 

I think Matt Braynard's numbers are interesting and need to be vetted. State election officials disregarding his work is bad for election integrity. Which Matt still stands by his numbers and called the GA SoS a liar for the numbers he claimed during the Trump phone call.

I think they should all be examined. 
Do any of the sites you are getting your information talk about Trump losing votes or is this all in his favor?

 
Do any of the sites you are getting your information talk about Trump losing votes or is this all in his favor?
Some vote totals have moved in Biden's favor after examining them. Braynard's numbers arent tied to a candidate. Which is why it seems so crazy everyone wants to dismiss them. Almost like someone has something to hide. 

 
No idea, but it was transparently bad.

Can dominion machines connect to the internet?
Are you aware that a  Trump PAC hired Rex Briggs as a consultant who reviewed data from each contested state and found no evidence of fraud?   He also confirmed that the voting machines were air-gapped (that means they weren't connected to the internet). 

But those facts don't fit your narrative.

 
Some vote totals have moved in Biden's favor after examining them. Braynard's numbers arent tied to a candidate. Which is why it seems so crazy everyone wants to dismiss them. Almost like someone has something to hide. 
Because people have determined he has no scientific basis for his data.  Not something to hide...but he continues to be discredited because his analysis is flawed.

 
Some vote totals have moved in Biden's favor after examining them. Braynard's numbers arent tied to a candidate. Which is why it seems so crazy everyone wants to dismiss them. Almost like someone has something to hide. 
Are you implying Braynard is impartial here?

Everything I have read about him is that what he has provided has been incorrect or based on faulty assumptions.

Sorry if you answered this before, I may have missed it but why would these republicans be hiding something that hurt Trump?

 
Are you implying Braynard is impartial here?

Everything I have read about him is that what he has provided has been incorrect or based on faulty assumptions.

Sorry if you answered this before, I may have missed it but why would these republicans be hiding something that hurt Trump?
No, Braynard is clearly an R, but his data is calling and examining state voter records. I'm assuming he has a record for each call and address or double vote.  Where did you see that information is faulty? 

The guy's organization spent 5 weeks cold calling voters and says he has the work behind his numbers. The counter is just people saying the numbers are wrong without an explanation, so I'd love to read one I'd you have one.

Also Trump really isnt an R, so swamp is going to swamp. 

 
No, Braynard is clearly an R, but his data is calling and examining state voter records. I'm assuming he has a record for each call and address or double vote.  Where did you see that information is faulty? 

The guy's organization spent 5 weeks cold calling voters and says he has the work behind his numbers. The counter is just people saying the numbers are wrong without an explanation, so I'd love to read one I'd you have one.

Also Trump really isnt an R, so swamp is going to swamp. 
Braynard worked for Trump at one point I thought. Everything I have read about his claims are they are unproven or have been proven incorrect. I can post links later.

Raffensperger voted and donated to Trump, is that riight?

 
I tell you what, if I ever have a problem that I can't solve like a mouse I can't catch or trying to flip a water bottle directly on a 2 inch mark, I'm coming here to enlist the help from some of you. The persistence you guys demonstrate in going back and forth trying to argue against these conspiracy theories is amazing to behold. 

 
Braynard worked for Trump at one point I thought. Everything I have read about his claims are they are unproven or have been proven incorrect. I can post links later.

Raffensperger voted and donated to Trump, is that riight?
This is what happened when Braynard testified in front of the Georgia Senate:

Braynard told the legislators that 1,043 early and absentee ballots cast in Georgia in the 2020 election came from people who had registered using a postal box “disguised as a residential address”—which is against the rules. He also stated that by checking a national registry of address changes and other databases he had determined that 20,312 voters were people who had moved out of Georgia or who had registered to vote in another state. And he added that at least 395 votes had been cast by people who had voted in Georgia and another state. He asserted that “the number of ballots that are strongly indicated as illegally cast [in Georgia] surpass the margin of victory in the presidential election.” (Of course, there was no telling who these supposedly illegal votes were cast for.) In defending his methodology, he cited scholarly articles written by Ansolabehere, the Harvard professor who had condemned Braynard’s work. He also noted that he had turned over his information to the FBI. 

At first, the hearing went smoothly for Braynard, who has the professional presentation of a data specialist. But then came state Rep. Bee Nguyen, a Democrat from Atlanta. It turns out she had been doing her own research. Citing an exhibit filed by Braynard that listed people who had voted but who supposedly had registered in Georgia and another state, she pointed out that several names were duplicated on the list. Then she said that she had looked up the first 10 names on the list and had found eight of these people listed in Georgia property records as residents. She reached one of them on the phone, she said, and he confirmed that he lived and voted only in Georgia. Nguyen said she verified this person’s voting record. 

Taking another name from this list—a woman allegedly registered in Georgia and Arizona—she confirmed this person’s residence and voting record in Georgia, and she found another voter with the exact same name listed in the Arizona voter rolls, born in the same year but with a different birth date. She also identified another person on the list in a similar situation: same name, different birth dates. 

In rapid-fire fashion, Nguyen continued on. She turned to the Braynard list of voters who he said had registered with postal boxes “disguised” as residences. She recognized one of the addresses as being around the corner from her home—a condo complex with a FedEx center on the first floor. (Some apartment buildings use a postal box-like system for their addresses.) A friend in the building sent her a list of residents of the complex. They were all on Braynard’s list, she said. And the same was true, she had discovered, for another condo complex with a FedEx center. On her own, she said, she had discovered that 128 names on this list—more than 10 percent of Braynard’s total number—were errors. 

And Nguyen wasn’t done. One of the names on the list of people who had allegedly voted in two states—a crime—belonged to a neighbor of another state representative, Teri Anulewicz, a Cobb County Democrat. This person had supposedly voted in Georgia and Maryland. Anulewicz contacted her neighbor, and, according to Nguyen, he told Anulewicz that he had never voted in Maryland but has a father with the exact same name. Nguyen looked at another name on this particular list—a person who had allegedly voted in Georgia and Virginia—and she found two people in those states with that name but with different birth dates. And one of her own constituents, she said, appeared on this list. Nguyen drove to her house, she recounted, and the woman told her that she and her husband had lived in Georgia their entire lives and had never been to the other state. 

Nguyen concluded this dissection of Braynard with a serious charge: “Many of the names listed on your exhibit are erroneous. You have alleged that these voters have committed a felony.” She criticized Braynard for having made no effort to contact some of them and verify the information. And referring to one couple she spoke to, Nguyen added, “They have no idea they are being accused of committing a crime in a public filing.”

Braynard did not have a lot to say about the problematic examples Nguyen had cited when she was done. “Thank you for helping to raise issues to help better validate the data,” he remarked. And he told Nguyen that he would “be more than happy” to “get back to you.” Then the hearing moved on to an appearance by Giuliani, who insisted there was no question that the election in Georgia had been rigged against Trump. (He claimed there were a thousand people “on tape admitting fraud” and accused the state’s Republican governor and Republican secretary of state of perpetuating a “cover-up.”) 

A week earlier, in a Wisconsin case that was partly based on Braynard’s research, the state supreme court had shot down that challenge to the election, with one conservative justice writing that the petitioners had relied “almost entirely on the unsworn expert report of a former campaign employee that offers statistical estimates based on call center samples and social media research.” That is, his work didn’t fly legally. And when cross-examined by Nguyen, who had engaged in her own basic fact-checking, Braynard’s research and his standing as an expert appeared to crumble. 

After the hearing, I contacted Braynard to get his take on what had happened. He didn’t respond.
We found some fraud.   It's this guy.

 
It's hard to know. There are claims made that we never hear the results of. Courts say "no standing" to present it. DOJ doesn't want it. 

I think Matt Braynard's numbers are interesting and need to be vetted. State election officials disregarding his work is bad for election integrity. Which Matt still stands by his numbers and called the GA SoS a liar for the numbers he claimed during the Trump phone call.

I think they should all be examined. 
Should we examine North Carolina as well?

 
This is what happened when Braynard testified in front of the Georgia Senate:

We found some fraud.   It's this guy.
Wait...when they tried to contact him...he didn’t respond? Probably has a lawyer too?

Why is that bad for Ruby Freeman but fine for this guy?

Yeah...Krebs is ridiculous and wrong...but trust this guy and Trump.

I suspect we will move on to the next guy or theory soon and forget all about this one.  Rinse and repeat.  And each time the theory is refuted...and yes I do think it’s important to keep combating misinformation like this as when it spreads unfettered...we get Trump and we get 70 million people believing him.

 
Are you aware that a  Trump PAC hired Rex Briggs as a consultant who reviewed data from each contested state and found no evidence of fraud?   He also confirmed that the voting machines were air-gapped (that means they weren't connected to the internet). 
What about Wi-Fi? Did the Briggs guy even think of that?

 
The guy's organization spent 5 weeks cold calling voters and says he has the work behind his numbers.
Wait, I thought just a couple of months ago you guys were saying that calling people on the telephone and asking them about their voting was ridiculous. Polling numbers were useless for this exact reason if I remember correctly. Do I have the wrong notebook?

 
Wait, I thought just a couple of months ago you guys were saying that calling people on the telephone and asking them about their voting was ridiculous. Polling numbers were useless for this exact reason if I remember correctly. Do I have the wrong notebook?
Turned out we were right too. Remember the blue wave of 2020?

Calling someone to ask if they voted by mail or not isn't the same as asking who they are voting for. 

 
Turned out we were right too. Remember the blue wave of 2020?

Calling someone to ask if they voted by mail or not isn't the same as asking who they are voting for. 
So calling people on the phone and asking about their politics is stupid and pointless? I guess I'm trying to figure out why you seem to value it in one instance and completely discount it in another.

 
So calling people on the phone and asking about their politics is stupid and pointless? I guess I'm trying to figure out why you seem to value it in one instance and completely discount it in another.
Both systems have their pros and cons. This is your angle, I dont see them as hand in hand. 

 
Both systems have their pros and cons. This is your angle, I dont see them as hand in hand. 
How many systems are you talking about? I'm talking about a system where you call people and ask them how they plan/will/have voted. What systems are you talking about?

 

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