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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (3 Viewers)
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Max Power
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The General
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kwille
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How is America's voice being stolen? We just had an election and America chose a new President. Sounds like their voice was heard just fine. Something to be proud of, not rally against.
Max Power
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The General
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Max Power
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People are protesting that we believe illegal votes were counted and the election was poorly administered in several states.
Max Power
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MAC_32
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...the process Republicans refused to amend.
And around and around we go! And around and around we go!
sho nuff
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The General
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The states being focused on, and only specific elections in those states, seems to raise some questions as to the motives here.
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Max Power
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The General
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That's great. Trump not so much.
Georgia's votes have been counted 3 times, once by hand. Signatures verified.
the rover
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What do you mean by an audit? There have been audits conducted already. That's how elections and certification work.
the rover
Footballguy
All of them - and rightly so.
There was no widespread fraud in any state. And the number of actual individual fraud cases is likely to be a very small number (< 25 nationally)
Do you have faith in Gabriel Sterling, a life-time Republican from Georgia?Max Power said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/georgia-election-trump-gabriel-sterling-b1782291.html
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Trump finally delivering on that promise of making America Great Again - full Democratic control - nice job Donald!
Amused to Death
Footballguy
And it took him only 2 years to go from full GOP control to full Dem control.
Winning!
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Lindsey Graham in May of 2016: If we nominate Trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
When did you form an opinion on Georgia’s SOS? Was it before he said it was a legitimate election, or after?
One time reminder to be cool to each other.
Drop the condescending snark. Drop the victory laps. Zero patience today and we'll likely lose a lot of posters for a while today if people can't be cool to each other.
Drop the condescending snark. Drop the victory laps. Zero patience today and we'll likely lose a lot of posters for a while today if people can't be cool to each other.
GoBirds
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There's really no reason not to do this , everyone wants to be sure things are done correctly. It hurts nothing.
In the 4 years since Trump has been elected President, the GOP has lost control of the House, the White House, and now the Senate.
Whether you like Trump, or not, its hard to argue against the notion that his presence has been toxic - on both an individual level, but also on an institutional level.
I think the GOP has to figure out how to capture the enthusiasm that Trump generated amongst his base, without all of the negativity associated with that. At this point, I don't know how much of the problem was message, or messenger.
From a "popular" standpoint, left-leaning policies have more broad-based support today, than most (but certainly not all) of Trump's policies. But, again, I think the GOP could be more persuasive to a broader group of people if/when they change messengers. One of the challenges will be how to move on from Trump-style politics, and how the GOP can keep his base engaged while also expanding the audience.
Whether you like Trump, or not, its hard to argue against the notion that his presence has been toxic - on both an individual level, but also on an institutional level.
I think the GOP has to figure out how to capture the enthusiasm that Trump generated amongst his base, without all of the negativity associated with that. At this point, I don't know how much of the problem was message, or messenger.
From a "popular" standpoint, left-leaning policies have more broad-based support today, than most (but certainly not all) of Trump's policies. But, again, I think the GOP could be more persuasive to a broader group of people if/when they change messengers. One of the challenges will be how to move on from Trump-style politics, and how the GOP can keep his base engaged while also expanding the audience.
HellToupee
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This is 100% on Mitch about fighting Donald on the stimulus and screwing the people who need cash
AAABatteries
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timschochet
Footballguy
If Trump doesn’t wait until the last second and bring up the $2000 issue, none of this happens. It was Trump’s negotiators that offered $600
timschochet
Footballguy
Well apart from the fact that the states do this themselves and that’s an idea conservatives have always supported and pushed for.
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Do you blame Mnuchin at all for not negotiating the $2000 like Trump wanted? Why were the President and the Treasury Sec. not on the same page during those negotiations? And how did Trump not know what was being negotiated on his behalf? I think those are valid questions.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The substantial cost to do so is a reason not to.
The lack of evidence making it necessary is a reason not to.
The likelihood of finding any statistical difference being slim to none is a reason not to.
Yeah...there are plenty of legitimate reasons not to do that.
gianmarco
Footballguy
At this point, Trump has shown that NO ONE, no matter how loyal they've been or for how long, is immune to his attacks. Pence the last one in line.
Not that this is surprising at all, but it just clearly shows that the only thing that truly matters to Trump is Trump. And it's always been that way.
Not that this is surprising at all, but it just clearly shows that the only thing that truly matters to Trump is Trump. And it's always been that way.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Will he or anyone up in the Republican party call out Lin Wood and his tweets about Pence, Rosenstein, and Justice Roberts?
I wonder if Pence will look back at that first cabinet meeting with great fondness.
ETA: For posterity
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the moops
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Osaurus
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GoBirds
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Doug B
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I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:
When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
I was in the golf business at the time. At every trade show or event, 90% of the dudes had khakis, blue shirt, blue blazer and red tie.
the moops
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Lutherman2112
Footballguy
Color psychology.
Blue suits also evoke feelings of trustworthiness, which is excellent for job interviews.
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Doug B
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No doubtNone of those dudes in the picture were in college in the 90's
but it's apparently an old sartorial strategy.
the moops
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Well the conservative media certainly lost their minds when Obama dared to wear a tan suit.
Color psychology.
Blue suits also evoke feelings of trustworthiness, which is excellent for job interviews.
HellToupee
Footballguy
The same guy who instead of giving US citizens 2k fought to give money to Pakistan
smh
Doug B
Footballguy
Looked it up: the book was actually called Dress for Success. The first edition came out in 1975 and was updated in 1988.None of those dudes in the picture were in college in the 90's
Amused to Death
Footballguy
I asked upthread but maybe you missed it....How do you feel about Mnuchin's job of negotiating the $600 and why didn't Trump know about it?
bigbottom
Footballguy
Anecdotal to be sure, but I know a number of Marines who were not at all happy when Trump called Mattis the world’s most overrated general, as Mattis is revered in the Corps. That doesn’t make them want to run out and vote Democrat, but I don’t know that I’d call them pro-Trump. Again, just speaking to the Marines I know (who are all conservative).
The General
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