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9 hours ago, Max Power said:

I don't think much of them. 

When did you form an opinion on Georgia’s SOS? Was it before he said it was a legitimate election, or after? 

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One time reminder to be cool to each other.

Drop the condescending snark. Drop the victory laps. Zero patience today and we'll likely lose a lot of posters for a while today if people can't be cool to each other. 

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11 hours ago, Max Power said:

I support a nationwide audit. What claims of fraud are being ignored?

There's really no reason not to do this , everyone wants to be sure things are done correctly. It hurts nothing. 

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In the 4 years since Trump has been elected President, the GOP has lost control of the House, the White House, and now the Senate.

 

Whether you like Trump, or not, its hard to argue against the notion that his presence has been toxic - on both an individual level, but also on an institutional level.

 

I think the GOP has to figure out how to capture the enthusiasm that Trump generated amongst his base, without all of the negativity associated with that.  At this point, I don't know how much of the problem was message, or messenger.  

From a "popular" standpoint, left-leaning policies have more broad-based support today, than most (but certainly not all) of Trump's policies.  But, again, I think the GOP could be more persuasive to a broader group of people if/when they change messengers.  One of the challenges will be how to move on from Trump-style politics, and how the GOP can keep his base engaged while also expanding the audience.

 

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1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

This is 100% on Mitch about fighting Donald on the stimulus and screwing the people who need cash

If Trump doesn’t wait until the last second and bring up the $2000 issue, none of this happens. It was Trump’s negotiators that offered $600

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1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

There's really no reason not to do this , everyone wants to be sure things are done correctly. It hurts nothing. 

Well apart from the fact that the states do this themselves and that’s an idea conservatives have always supported and pushed for. 

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3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This is 100% on Mitch about fighting Donald on the stimulus and screwing the people who need cash

Do you blame Mnuchin at all for not negotiating the $2000 like Trump wanted? Why were the President and the Treasury Sec. not on the same page during those negotiations? And how did Trump not know what was being negotiated on his behalf? I think those are valid questions.

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1 hour ago, GoBirds said:

There's really no reason not to do this , everyone wants to be sure things are done correctly. It hurts nothing. 

The substantial cost to do so is a reason not to.

The lack of evidence making it necessary is a reason not to.

The likelihood of finding any statistical difference being slim to none is a reason not to.

Yeah...there are plenty of legitimate reasons not to do that.

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At this point, Trump has shown that NO ONE, no matter how loyal they've been or for how long, is immune to his attacks.  Pence the last one in line.

Not that this is surprising at all, but it just clearly shows that the only thing that truly matters to Trump is Trump.  And it's always been that way.

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10 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

At this point, Trump has shown that NO ONE, no matter how loyal they've been or for how long, is immune to his attacks.  Pence the last one in line.

Not that this is surprising at all, but it just clearly shows that the only thing that truly matters to Trump is Trump.  And it's always been that way.

Will he or anyone up in the Republican party call out Lin Wood and his tweets about Pence, Rosenstein, and Justice Roberts?

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15 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

At this point, Trump has shown that NO ONE, no matter how loyal they've been or for how long, is immune to his attacks.  Pence the last one in line.

Not that this is surprising at all, but it just clearly shows that the only thing that truly matters to Trump is Trump.  And it's always been that way.

I wonder if Pence will look back at that first cabinet meeting with great fondness.

 

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19 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Will he or anyone up in the Republican party call out Lin Wood and his tweets about Pence, Rosenstein, and Justice Roberts?

Doubtful. If there's no gain for them by doing so, why bother?

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34 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

The substantial cost to do so is a reason not to.

The lack of evidence making it necessary is a reason not to.

The likelihood of finding any statistical difference being slim to none is a reason not to.

Yeah...there are plenty of legitimate reasons not to do that.

Stop trolling. 

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2 minutes ago, the moops said:

What's with old white dudes and blue suits and red ties?

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

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I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

I was in the golf business at the time. At every trade show or event, 90% of the dudes had khakis, blue shirt, blue blazer and red tie.

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1 minute ago, Doug B said:

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

None of those dudes in the picture were in college in the 90's :)

 

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3 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

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Color psychology.

Blue suits also evoke feelings of trustworthiness, which is excellent for job interviews.

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2 minutes ago, the moops said:
3 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

None of those dudes in the picture were in college in the 90's :)

No doubt :D but it's apparently an old sartorial strategy.

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10 minutes ago, Lutherman2112 said:

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Color psychology.

Blue suits also evoke feelings of trustworthiness, which is excellent for job interviews.

Well the conservative media certainly lost their minds when Obama dared to wear a tan suit.

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7 hours ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

Lindsey Graham in May of 2016: If we nominate Trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it

The same guy who instead of giving US citizens 2k fought to give money to Pakistan 

 

smh

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14 minutes ago, the moops said:
16 minutes ago, Doug B said:

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

None of those dudes in the picture were in college in the 90's :)

Looked it up: the book was actually called Dress for Success. The first edition came out in 1975 and was updated in 1988.

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9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

The same guy who instead of giving US citizens 2k fought to give money to Pakistan 

 

smh

I asked upthread but maybe you missed it....How do you feel about Mnuchin's job of negotiating the $600 and why didn't Trump know about it?

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On 1/3/2021 at 5:16 PM, Max Power said:

I'm probably going. My wife wants to go, but I don't want her there. I'll be talking with a couple buddies at work tomorrow to get a final call on if we're going or not. 

Ex-military and currently a dept of Army federal employee. Yes we do support and defend the constitution. 

Do you really think the military isnt mostly pro Trump? Biden years will be more endless wars that impact our lives and families more than civilians understand. 

Anecdotal to be sure, but I know a number of Marines who were not at all happy when Trump called Mattis the world’s most overrated general, as Mattis is revered in the Corps. That doesn’t make them want to run out and vote Democrat, but I don’t know that I’d call them pro-Trump. Again, just speaking to the Marines I know (who are all conservative).

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47 minutes ago, HellToupee said:
8 hours ago, Encyclopedia Brown said:

Lindsey Graham in May of 2016: If we nominate Trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it

The same guy who instead of giving US citizens 2k fought to give money to Pakistan 

 

smh

Lindsey was for the 2k payments I believe.

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3 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

In the 4 years since Trump has been elected President, the GOP has lost control of the House, the White House, and now the Senate.

 

Whether you like Trump, or not, its hard to argue against the notion that his presence has been toxic - on both an individual level, but also on an institutional level.

 

I think the GOP has to figure out how to capture the enthusiasm that Trump generated amongst his base, without all of the negativity associated with that.  At this point, I don't know how much of the problem was message, or messenger.  

From a "popular" standpoint, left-leaning policies have more broad-based support today, than most (but certainly not all) of Trump's policies.  But, again, I think the GOP could be more persuasive to a broader group of people if/when they change messengers.  One of the challenges will be how to move on from Trump-style politics, and how the GOP can keep his base engaged while also expanding the audience.

 

I like the GA republicans.  I mean, being in their shoes against their base must have been hard.  But they did the right thing.  I like the courage.  Ill vote for them.  Unless its Kemp, I dont like Kemp ;)

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1 minute ago, JAA said:

I like the GA republicans.  I mean, being in their shoes against their base must have been hard.  But they did the right thing.  I like the courage.  Ill vote for them.  Unless its Kemp, I dont like Kemp ;)

Yeah watching the Sec State spokesman, I think they are taking the right approach to moving forward, and putting Trumpism in the rearview mirror.

 

Kemp though, I think, will have a difficult political future.  He will get squeezed by the Dems who think he stole the election for Governor, and by the Trump Party for thinking he stole the presidential election.

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I still can't even understand holding a rally.

He lost the election, his party lost the Senate yesterday, he's leaving office in 2 weeks, there's a pandemic, but he's holding a rally?

Just so out of touch.

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1 minute ago, gianmarco said:

I still can't even understand holding a rally.

He lost the election, his party lost the Senate yesterday, he's leaving office in 2 weeks, there's a pandemic, but he's holding a rally?

Just so out of touch.

He's not publicly admitting that yet nor are a shrinking and shrinking % of his base.

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Just now, shader said:

He's not publicly admitting that yet nor are a shrinking and shrinking % of his base.

So? He doesn't have to admit it for it to be reality. Again, just out of touch. 

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Just now, gianmarco said:

So? He doesn't have to admit it for it to be reality. Again, just out of touch. 

He's not out of touch with his base, who he's holding the rally for.  That's my point.  It's a big ego trip for him and he's pandering to his base.  If he was holding a rally and no one showed up, it would show he's out of touch.  But his base is there, and he's hoping that Pence does some crazy stuff.

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5 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I still can't even understand holding a rally.

He lost the election, his party lost the Senate yesterday, he's leaving office in 2 weeks, there's a pandemic, but he's holding a rally?

Just so out of touch.

It's all about him. Nothing else.

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11 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I still can't even understand holding a rally.

He lost the election, his party lost the Senate yesterday, he's leaving office in 2 weeks, there's a pandemic, but he's holding a rally?

Just so out of touch.

I believe Don Jr said something to the effect that you are with them or you are the other side.

Trump folks vs Everyone else.

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I'm just following along on twitter so maybe I'm missing some context - but this seems incredibly irresponsible. You basically have a sitting President trying to incite a rebellion against the newly elected government.

 

i.e. - Trump says the United States does not have free and fair elections nor does it have a free and fair press.

Trump describes the counting of votes as "explosions of bull####."

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Also - Mike Pence must be super happy right now.

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3 minutes ago, MAC_32 said:

Why are any of you tuning into this nonsense? If we want it to stop then our attention must go somewhere else.

To be clear, I'm not watching or care about his rally.  I'm of the exact same mindset as here.  As I mentioned a couple months ago, I was looking forward to tuning out from politics and it's been great to not watch or follow very much.  Yesterday was obviously different and I do have some interest to see the spectacle that takes place shortly in the certification.  And then it's back to blissful ignorance. 

The worst thing that could happen to Trump is irrelevance.  I will be doing my part in contributing to that.

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1 minute ago, whoknew said:

I'm just following along on twitter so maybe I'm missing some context - but this seems incredibly irresponsible. You basically have a sitting President trying to incite a rebellion against the newly elected government.

 

i.e. - Trump says the United States does not have free and fair elections nor does it have a free and fair press.

Trump describes the counting of votes as "explosions of bull####."

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Also - Mike Pence must be super happy right now.

Yep, just vile stuff and completely on-brand.  Imagine showing this video to yourself in January 2017.  I've said it before; I really think he's going to get people killed.

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1 hour ago, urbanhack said:
1 hour ago, Doug B said:

I don't know if other Gen Xers recall this experience, but:

When I was in college (early 1990s), there was a popular book being passed around about how to dress for success in the business world. That book was HUGE on wearing a red tie, calling it the "power tie". Anyway, guys going on internship interviews, or graduating seniors going on job interviews, etc. commonly consulted this book and followed its suggestions.

I was in the golf business at the time. At every trade show or event, 90% of the dudes had khakis, blue shirt, blue blazer and red tie.

Don't you worry about Planet Express. Let me worry about blank.

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56 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I still can't even understand holding a rally.

He lost the election, his party lost the Senate yesterday, he's leaving office in 2 weeks, there's a pandemic, but he's holding a rally?

Just so out of touch.

Does he charge admission for these rallies?  If so, I think you have your answer.....

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In three years, Trump will be holding rallies at Tribal Casinos in small towns where he'll have a full line-up of has-been surrogates open up for him.  $150 to see Roger Stone, Kelly Anne, Kaylieahghigh, one of his children and then the Donald, descending down from a set of casino escalators moving from the smoking Keno lounge down to the main floor where they have an Off-Track Betting room and free soda drink refill stations. 

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4 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

Does he charge admission for these rallies?  If so, I think you have your answer.....

He does not charge admission - directly.

 

He just asks for donations for his new PAC - and people just keep giving him money.

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