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3 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

But if fraud is revealed, he is done.. Especially if Republicans get the House and win the Senate and gain seats.

I hope this is their plan in the long run anyways. He is unfit for office. He showed that today when he forgot the South African President was already introduced and introduced him again. 

No, he isn't done as there is no mechanism under the Constitution to overturn the certified results. Once they are certified, it is over, finished, no redo. 

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14 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

I honestly, I know Trump isn't going to reappear at the WH, But my hope is Arizona audit gets other states to do it, then by the time it's all done we will control then House and Senate and can impeach both Biden and Harris. If fraud is evident, I am sure some Dems will jump on boards like Manchin, Sinema, Casey, Sanders..

By then Trump is named Speaker and then jumps into the WH.

I do think he wins in a landslide in 2024 either way. 

As a fellow conservative, I get it.  But, IMO, you're hoping against all hope.  No one is going to impeach Biden or Harris unless there is direct evidence of Biden or Harris or both literally directing the fraud themselves.  And I doubt there would be since this type of stuff - when it does happen - is designed to the keep the candidate oblivious so they can plead "plausible deniability".

There is no way republicans - if they do get control of both houses -  will gin up a case based on anonymous sources, lies, unproven allegations, fake Russian dossiers, hookers and pee tapes to impeach them.  Well, I feel confident they wouldn't.

Also, I think you need to look at the future - and that doesn't include Trump.  He had his run but ultimately he's just not that likeable and was a one-time flash in the pan.  Trump isn't going to be elected speaker and he won't be President again.  It just isn't going to happen in my opinion.  There are too many conservatives like me who voted for Trump the first time because as unlikable as he was, he was clearly the better alternative to Hillary.  I voted for him the 2nd time because I felt he got railroaded and impeded by the left.  I won't be voting for him a 3rd time unless a) Hillary runs again or b) The Democrats nominate a Socialist/Marxist/Communist (always a possibility) or c) They nominate Satan himself (which, coincidentally, could also be Hillary - we just don't know.  :) )

I get that it might seem unfair what happened, but for the good of the country we need to move forward with Biden and Harris and then in 2024 we pick a fresh candidate who better represents us.

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Just now, PennStater77 said:

Being unfit is a impeachable offense.. You are not a republican, please stop pretending to be something you are not.

I'm not sure how voter fraud in Arizona makes Biden unfit.  The two aren't linked together.  

I'm a conservative.  I guess I'm an old school Republican.  We care about certain principles and values.  You're the new school Republican that just cares about power regardless of the principles we're fighting for.  

I criticize a lot of the Liberals on here for their "my side good, your side bad" shtick.  You're just as bad.

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7 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

Being unfit is a impeachable offense.. You are not a republican, please stop pretending to be something you are not.

Okay, well, being unfit is NOT an impeachable offense based on voter fraud unless they literally have rock solid evidence. Being unfit, IMO, means the 25th amendment - which clearly is in play here with Biden.  

However, with that being said, I'd rather Biden finish his term than let Harris back-door into the POTUS.  If everyone thought Trump was unfit for the job, wait until she gets in.

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2 minutes ago, jm192 said:

I'm not sure how voter fraud in Arizona makes Biden unfit.  The two aren't linked together.  

I'm a conservative.  I guess I'm an old school Republican.  We care about certain principles and values.  You're the new school Republican that just cares about power regardless of the principles we're fighting for.  

I criticize a lot of the Liberals on here for their "my side good, your side bad" shtick.  You're just as bad.

Where did I say voter fraud made him unfit.. I said he is 100% unfit.. 100%.. He has something wrong with him, he mumbles stuff, forgets stuff, and can't complete a sentence. He is not well. He should not be the President. I am 100% positive and confident if the Republicans gain control of both houses they will move on from Biden.  We are a new Republican Party and we get #### done, we don't care about what it takes.. 

I am also not worried about Harris, cause after 2022 we will have full control and she has 0 chance of ever winning an election.

And if you don't like new Republican Party join the left or get rid of your voting card.

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1 minute ago, PennStater77 said:

Where did I say voter fraud made him unfit.. I said he is 100% unfit.. 100%.. He has something wrong with him, he mumbles stuff, forgets stuff, and can't complete a sentence. He is not well. He should not be the President. I am 100% positive and confident if the Republicans gain control of both houses they will move on from Biden.  We are a new Republican Party and we get #### done, we don't care about what it takes.. 

I am also not worried about Harris, cause after 2022 we will have full control and she has 0 chance of ever winning an election.

And if you don't like new Republican Party join the left or get rid of your voting card.

LOL.  

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5 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

Where did I say voter fraud made him unfit.. I said he is 100% unfit.. 100%.. He has something wrong with him, he mumbles stuff, forgets stuff, and can't complete a sentence. He is not well. He should not be the President. I am 100% positive and confident if the Republicans gain control of both houses they will move on from Biden.  We are a new Republican Party and we get #### done, we don't care about what it takes.. 

I am also not worried about Harris, cause after 2022 we will have full control and she has 0 chance of ever winning an election.

And if you don't like new Republican Party join the left or get rid of your voting card.

What has the new Republican party gotten done? 

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6 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

We are a new Republican Party and we get #### done, we don't care about what it takes.. 

....

And if you don't like new Republican Party join the left or get rid of your voting card.

:lol: Alright, now I think the odds-on favorite on this alias is a liberal troll running a ridiculous TrueBeliever™ Trumper caricature.  Hilarious, but overplayed his hand.  Only forgot the RAWR

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51 minutes ago, jm192 said:

What would Biden and/or Harris be impeached for?

No one has been able to prove voter fraud.  You think they're going to prove fraud and prove it's tied to Biden/Harris?  

More importantly who is going to find fraud?  The current “audit”? Come on…..

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48 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:
49 minutes ago, jm192 said:

You're going to have to explain the impeachable offense.  "Voter fraud" is not impeachable.  You can't impeach him just because someone else committed voter fraud.  And again...we haven't even seen proof of said voter fraud.  

 

Being unfit is a impeachable offense.. You are not a republican, please stop pretending to be something you are not.

This is exactly how a party eats itself from the inside out.  The RINO narrative is flat out dangerous and a very slippery slope for the GOP.  

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49 minutes ago, BladeRunner said:

but for the good of the country we need to move forward with Biden and Harris and then in 2024 we pick a fresh candidate who better represents us.

Preach!!  100% agree. 

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2 hours ago, BladeRunner said:

As a fellow conservative, I get it.  But, IMO, you're hoping against all hope.  No one is going to impeach Biden or Harris unless there is direct evidence of Biden or Harris or both literally directing the fraud themselves.  And I doubt there would be since this type of stuff - when it does happen - is designed to the keep the candidate oblivious so they can plead "plausible deniability".

There is no way republicans - if they do get control of both houses -  will gin up a case based on anonymous sources, lies, unproven allegations, fake Russian dossiers, hookers and pee tapes to impeach them.  Well, I feel confident they wouldn't.

Also, I think you need to look at the future - and that doesn't include Trump.  He had his run but ultimately he's just not that likeable and was a one-time flash in the pan.  Trump isn't going to be elected speaker and he won't be President again.  It just isn't going to happen in my opinion.  There are too many conservatives like me who voted for Trump the first time because as unlikable as he was, he was clearly the better alternative to Hillary.  I voted for him the 2nd time because I felt he got railroaded and impeded by the left.  I won't be voting for him a 3rd time unless a) Hillary runs again or b) The Democrats nominate a Socialist/Marxist/Communist (always a possibility) or c) They nominate Satan himself (which, coincidentally, could also be Hillary - we just don't know.  :) )

I get that it might seem unfair what happened, but for the good of the country we need to move forward with Biden and Harris and then in 2024 we pick a fresh candidate who better represents us.

No we pick Trump.. He got 74M votes and is our best chance to gain back the WH.

This is 100% Trump's party now..

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16 minutes ago, PennStater77 said:

No we pick Trump.. He got 74M votes and is our best chance to gain back the WH.

This is 100% Trump's party now..

No, the best hope for the Republicans is for Trump and his family to go away and the party to regain some semblance of sanity (in relative terms, as all political parties are shameless, corrupt and nutty to a large degree).  As long as Trump is the face of the party, they are dead in the water when it comes to presidential elections.  He lost last year to a really old Joe Biden who inspired no one (and yes, Trump lost, so spare me "he really won" nonsense...he LOST). 

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41 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

No, the best hope for the Republicans is for Trump and his family to go away and the party to regain some semblance of sanity (in relative terms, as all political parties are shameless, corrupt and nutty to a large degree).  As long as Trump is the face of the party, they are dead in the water when it comes to presidential elections.  He lost last year to a really old Joe Biden who inspired no one (and yes, Trump lost, so spare me "he really won" nonsense...he LOST). 

Time for the Republicans to put forth an honorable candidate like a Romney or deceased McCain type to be branded a nazi, racist or misogynist etc. 

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11 hours ago, The General said:

I’m guessing it was GGs post. It was a bit unsavory for FBG’s.

Have seen way worse but it was an opportune time to help Tim save some face so that’s fine. When a poster provides that volume like Tim does you can’t let him walk into a buzzsaw. 

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2 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

No, the best hope for the Republicans is for Trump and his family to go away and the party to regain some semblance of sanity (in relative terms, as all political parties are shameless, corrupt and nutty to a large degree).  As long as Trump is the face of the party, they are dead in the water when it comes to presidential elections.  He lost last year to a really old Joe Biden who inspired no one (and yes, Trump lost, so spare me "he really won" nonsense...he LOST). 

Yeah, Glad you agree Sleepy Joe did not get 81 million votes :no:

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15 hours ago, PennStater77 said:

So you are ok with cheating to win.. You are ok with Biden taking away our right.. Opening our boarders?

Sorry, you are not a republican. Go join the Dem crowd.

What right is Biden taking away?

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13 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

No, the best hope for the Republicans is for Trump and his family to go away and the party to regain some semblance of sanity (in relative terms, as all political parties are shameless, corrupt and nutty to a large degree).  As long as Trump is the face of the party, they are dead in the water when it comes to presidential elections.  He lost last year to a really old Joe Biden who inspired no one (and yes, Trump lost, so spare me "he really won" nonsense...he LOST). 

This is what should happen.

13 hours ago, PennStater77 said:

No we pick Trump.. He got 74M votes and is our best chance to gain back the WH.

This is 100% Trump's party now..

This is what is happening.

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Trumplicans are winning out in Tennessee😥

https://news.yahoo.com/opinion-donald-trump-tennessee-gop-210100326.html

But that's over. Tennessee Republicans are no longer centrists and moderates. They are now leaning hard, hard right — and straight over the edge of a flat earth.

Judging from a recent Vanderbilt University survey of 1,000 registered voters, it isn't just former president Donald Trump who is delusional in insisting the election was stolen from him.

It's also 71% of Tennessee's Republican voters who last month told Vandy pollsters they agreed with the statement: "Joe Biden stole the 2020 presidential election."

And why not? As disheartening as it is, it shouldn't be completely surprising. Tennessee's new hard-right politicians bang the drum daily on social media and Fox News, peppering Tennesseans with continued references to Trump and his ever-increasing false claims.

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58 minutes ago, The Dude said:

How was your Monday?

There’s always another Monday. That’s the beauty of it.

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6 minutes ago, joffer said:

There’s always another Monday. That’s the beauty of it.

Nobody said nothing was happening today.. Wendy Rodgers said there was a chance they could be done today, but they have 50K Braille ballots left. Arizona isn't going to change the outcome, its just going to get the ball rolling to change the outcome. 9 states visited the audit including Pa, Georgia, Wisky, and Michigan. All 4 of them should be next.

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23 hours ago, Dickies said:

 

On 6/13/2021 at 5:09 PM, PennStater77 said:

So you are ok with cheating to win.. You are ok with Biden taking away our right.. Opening our boarders?

Sorry, you are not a republican. Go join the Dem crowd.

What right is Biden taking away?

 

Bump.

Genuinely curious about this

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13 hours ago, PennStater77 said:

Nobody said nothing was happening today.. Wendy Rodgers said there was a chance they could be done today, but they have 50K Braille ballots left. Arizona isn't going to change the outcome, its just going to get the ball rolling to change the outcome. 9 states visited the audit including Pa, Georgia, Wisky, and Michigan. All 4 of them should be next.

Who is paying for this boondoggle? 

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55 minutes ago, General Malaise said:

Who is paying for this boondoggle? 

Common decency. Law and Order. American exceptionalism. 

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@axios

NEW: Between December 2020 and early January, Trump and his allies repeatedly pressed senior DOJ officials to investigate baseless conspiracy theories and challenge election results, according to documents released by the House Oversight Committee.

"Pure insanity": Emails reveal Trump pressured top DOJ officials to overturn election results

axios.com

https://mobile.twitter.com/axios/status/1404785776093646864

 

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1 hour ago, Witz said:

@axios

NEW: Between December 2020 and early January, Trump and his allies repeatedly pressed senior DOJ officials to investigate baseless conspiracy theories and challenge election results, according to documents released by the House Oversight Committee.

"Pure insanity": Emails reveal Trump pressured top DOJ officials to overturn election results

axios.com

https://mobile.twitter.com/axios/status/1404785776093646864

 

Meanwhile the new DOJ is more than happy to do the political biding of their overlords.  
 

Weaponized DOJ

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33 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Meanwhile the new DOJ is more than happy to do the political biding of their overlords.  
 

Weaponized DOJ

One article cotes actual evidence and emails.  The other is yet more propaganda with no basis by the Conservative Treehouse

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30 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:
1 hour ago, sho nuff said:

One article cotes actual evidence and emails.  The other is yet more propaganda with no basis by the Conservative Treehouse

Are you trying to say they paint over something and made a typo?

This would have been a much better zing if you had referenced one of the numerous definitions of "cote" instead of misidentifying the word "coat".

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2 hours ago, knowledge dropper said:

Meanwhile the new DOJ is more than happy to do the political biding of their overlords.  
 

Weaponized DOJ

That is one of the worst headlines I've ever read.  When your headline is so long you start rambling in the middle of it, I have little hope for your article/opinion piece.

How did they get from 74 million to 100 million?   It's in the piece, so it immediately gets repeated in the comments.   

Wow, those comments are...something.   Conspiracies from all over the place.   9/11 and Oklahoma City were government false flags, and Timothy McVeigh is alive and well and living in South America.   That's the audience for this stuff, and they're loving it.  

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9 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Only in today’s gop could an attack on domestic terrorism be considered partisan - think about it

And used to excuse/deflect actual bad things from their own guy.

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9 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

I know the difference.  However, trying to decipher his word salad is challenging.  

It really wasn’t…the intent to say cite was pretty clear from the context of the test of the post.  Of course, that was ignored to play typo police and keep from discussing the actual evidence about Trump.

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6 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

It really wasn’t…the intent to say cite was pretty clear from the context of the test of the post.  Of course, that was ignored to play typo police and keep from discussing the actual evidence about Trump.

It will always clear in your head, because you're the one trying to communicate it.  However, you can't just assume everyone else knows what you mean with your 3rd grade level spelling, punctuation and grammar.  

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41 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

It really wasn’t…the intent to say cite was pretty clear from the context of the test of the post.  Of course, that was ignored to play typo police and keep from discussing the actual evidence about Trump.

To be honest, it's rarely clear and usually a challenge to figure out what you're saying.  Proofread but mashing the submit button

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10 hours ago, tonydead said:

It will always clear in your head, because you're the one trying to communicate it.  However, you can't just assume everyone else knows what you mean with your 3rd grade level spelling, punctuation and grammar.  

Don't

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