I have to say this is the best article you guys have posted to sway folks who think the election was stolen by Biden, assuming the quotes by Barr are legit.The Dude said:
Lock her up, lock him up, stolen this, sad that ad nauseam. Now you're caught up.pecorino said:What was great about it? I’ve heard nothing.
Cmon, guys, I think we can rely on the opinion of the one guy that thinks the AZ election is going to be overturned.PennStater77 said:What an absolutely amazing rally in Ohio.. The country needs Trump more now then ever.
Meh, Barr has been saying similar things all along and it moved the needle none with those convinced otherwise.I have to say this is the best article you guys have posted to sway folks who think the election was stolen by Biden, assuming the quotes by Barr are legit.
I mean how can you possibly doubt the guy who says California was actually won by Trump because his cousin saw some signs.Cmon, guys, I think we can rely on the opinion of the one guy that thinks the AZ election is going to be overturned.
A news reporter stated she asked the crowd what they wanted out of his rally - something new or the usual grievances - and they wanted a repeat of the greatest hits.Lock her up, lock him up, stolen this, sad that ad nauseam. Now you're caught up.
It opened up his eyes.I mean how can you possibly doubt the guy who says California was actually won by Trump because his cousin saw some signs.
It continue to show how much support trump has going into 2022.. He continue to be the Republican Party and if he decided to run in 2024 he will win in a landslide.pecorino said:What was great about it? I’ve heard nothing.
whats this about now?It continue to show how much support trump has going into 2022.. He continue to be the Republican Party and if he decided to run in 2024 he will win in a landslide.
Also it shows how much of a coward AOC is.
MTG called her out and AOC response was how she was taller then MTG.. AOC is a coward and continue to avoid a debate with MTG cause she knows she would get schooled.whats this about now?
Of course.A news reporter stated she asked the crowd what they wanted out of his rally - something new or the usual grievances - and they wanted a repeat of the greatest hits.
Goes to show the type of people he’s appealing to
A little selective. Considering AOCs superior use of social media, I find the reply to be funny.MTG called her out and AOC response was how she was taller then MTG.. AOC is a coward and continue to avoid a debate with MTG cause she knows she would get schooled.
How is AOC correct? Wait, cause she is a Dem..A little selective. Considering AOCs superior use of social media, I find the reply to be funny.
here’s the part you chose not to include
"I refuse to allow young women, people of color, people who are standing up for what they believe to see this kind of intimidation attempts by a person who supports white supremacists in our nation's Capitol," she said.
And AOC is 100% correct. MTG wishes she had AOCs spotlight - and there’s no reason to elevate MTGs ignorance by having a debate.
Probably because a debate would have no real result. Those that dislike AOC will day she got beat or destroyed no matter what happens and likely vice versa.How is AOC correct? Wait, cause she is a Dem..
Anyways, if she is so smart, and MTG is so dumb, AOC should have no issue with a debate with MTG, but she continues to run scared.
it's funny how MTG called AOC a little communist, but AOC comes back that she is taller. Almost admitting she is a communist.
Dems don't like Boebert or MTG, but AOC and Omar are their version of the two.
BTW, What do you think of AOC endorsement of Nina Turner? The same Nina Turner who said voting for Biden would be like eating ####. The same Nina Turner who took Jill Stein over Hiliary.
How is her profile higher? Honestly, they are pretty much the same, just one is a Dem and the other is a Repub.AOC’s profile is infinitely higher than MTG. She isn’t going to roll around in the mud with her. She gets nothing out of it. It is similar to why no presidents prior to Trump ever met directly with Kim John Un. Because all it does is legitimize someone that should never be given a platform to espouse their dangerous ideology. Trump did it purely for his own ego, which is the reason he does everything.
No. They are not even close in terms of their profile and social media impact.How is her profile higher? Honestly, they are pretty much the same, just one is a Dem and the other is a Repub.
Honestly, with everything going on in the world, why would you care about a debate between these two? MTG should worry about the countries challenges rather than the profile boost she will get appearing on the same stage as AOC.How is AOC correct? Wait, cause she is a Dem..
Anyways, if she is so smart, and MTG is so dumb, AOC should have no issue with a debate with MTG, but she continues to run scared.
it's funny how MTG called AOC a little communist, but AOC comes back that she is taller. Almost admitting she is a communist.
Dems don't like Boebert or MTG, but AOC and Omar are their version of the two.
BTW, What do you think of AOC endorsement of Nina Turner? The same Nina Turner who said voting for Biden would be like eating ####. The same Nina Turner who took Jill Stein over Hiliary.
I can take this one: she doesn't care about the country's challenges and doesn't have the capacity to conceive of, never mind implement or broker, policy responses to deal with them. She is a carnival act. Nothing more.Honestly, with everything going on in the world, why would you care about a debate between these two? MTG should worry about the countries challenges rather than the profile boost she will get appearing on the same stage as AOC.
You are talking about AOC?I can take this one: she doesn't care about the country's challenges and doesn't have the capacity to conceive of, never mind implement or broker, policy responses to deal with them. She is a carnival act. Nothing more.
she's one of the least effective members of congress. not much there to have a high opinion of.It’s funny, cause the right seems to have a higher opinion of aoc than the left
I have no idea where she ranks on effectiveness - but the right is pretty scared of hershe's one of the least effective members of congress. not much there to have a high opinion of.
thats a broad stroke. not sure scared is the right word either. is the "left"scared of her too?I have no idea where she ranks on effectiveness - but the right is pretty scared of her
No, we like to point out crazyness when we see it. Also, the fact that the President is trying to pander to her is frightful and should scare you.I have no idea where she ranks on effectiveness - but the right is pretty scared of her
Thoughts on mtg?No, we like to point out crazyness when we see it. Also, the fact that the President is trying to pander to her is frightful and should scare you.
The right seems to be obsessed with AOC.It’s funny, cause the right seems to have a higher opinion of aoc than the left
Not very effective according to this studyI have no idea where she ranks on effectiveness - but the right is pretty scared of her
Really? More so they seem surprised the Left has chosen to allow her to be the face of their party as awful as she is. I guess it’s a good way to deflect?The right seems to be obsessed with AOC.
How is she the face of the party when the party won't put forth any of her ideas?Really? More so they seem surprised the Left has chosen to allow her to be the face of their party as awful as she is. I guess it’s a good way to deflect?
She isn’t…How is she the face of the party when the party won't put forth any of her ideas?
I agree, it’s completely weird they have allowed it to happen.How is she the face of the party when the party won't put forth any of her ideas?
Exactly my point. Whether you agree with her or not, she is trying to effect meaningful change. Trying to do what she thinks is right to better the lives of the lower and middle class. I think she is young, naïve, and sometimes misguided in how to effect that change. But make no mistake. She is in Congress to try and make America a better place. MTG is in congress to make a mockery of the body politic and pursue her conspiracy theory bs. She isn't fit to carry AOC's water.Not very effective according to this study
Worth noting that I think the study shows what many have said in here and in the AOC thread. She has ideas, and she puts forth a good amount of legislation, but she lacks the political skills to move them forward. I think she comes from a good place and genuinely wants to improve people's lives, even if many disagree with her.
MTG obviously wasn't a part of this study, but none of her proposed legislation has moved forward either and they come across as way more ridiculous (impeaching Biden on his 1st day in office, Fire Fauci Act, Second Amendment Preservation Act, etc).
Whoa...hey. That's no way to treat a member of the mainstream media.Jeffrey Tobin on cnn right now
how the hell can anyone take him seriously
How is MTG in congress to make a mockery of anything? She is for our country, for the 2nd amendment, for life of babies, and believe Trump was cheated out of the WH.Exactly my point. Whether you agree with her or not, she is trying to effect meaningful change. Trying to do what she thinks is right to better the lives of the lower and middle class. I think she is young, naïve, and sometimes misguided in how to effect that change. But make no mistake. She is in Congress to try and make America a better place. MTG is in congress to make a mockery of the body politic and pursue her conspiracy theory bs. She isn't fit to carry AOC's water.
This is where you lose me. AOC is a politician.Exactly my point. Whether you agree with her or not, she is trying to effect meaningful change. Trying to do what she thinks is right to better the lives of the lower and middle class. I think she is young, naïve, and sometimes misguided in how to effect that change. But make no mistake. She is in Congress to try and make America a better place. MTG is in congress to make a mockery of the body politic and pursue her conspiracy theory bs. She isn't fit to carry AOC's water.
OptionalAnyone go to the Trump reboot rally? Curious if jorts are mandatory.
How many times do you think the producer had to ask if he was wearing pants before they went live?Jeffrey Tobin on cnn right now
how the hell can anyone take him seriously
We will agree to disagree then. While I do agree with you that many politicians will wear whatever costume they need to in order to stay in power, I do not think that is true of AOC based on what I have seen from her. I don't think she would sell her soul the way Liz Stephanic did to climb the Trump Party ranks. I could be wrong, of course. But I think she is genuinely fighting for what she believes in.matuski said:This is where you lose me. AOC is a politician.
She is trying to effect her gain of votes and power. Just like MTG.
She is neither naive nor misguided. She is literally informed by her pollsters and strategic staff. Just like MTG.
I'd assume the one who is on more prestigious committees has a higher profile.PennStater77 said:How is her profile higher? Honestly, they are pretty much the same, just one is a Dem and the other is a Repub.
To be fair, it was Ohio. The Mr Pillow rally in WI I viewed some clips of looked like an obesity rally. But then it's WI, so really kind of normal I suppose.GoBirds said:Optional
Super coherent.
One is the face of their party/future, the other isn’t. Seems expected?I'd assume the one who is on more prestigious committees has a higher profile.
AOC: Committee on Financial Services, Subcommittee on National Security, International Development and Monetary policy, committee on Oversight & Government Reform, Subcommittee on Civil Rights & Civil Liberties, Subcommittee on Environment
MTG: *sound of crickets chirping*