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9 minutes ago, SoBeDad said:

The last 2 Democrats brought us out of recessions, while the last 3 Republicans left during recessions.  This fear mongering about socialism and the economy under democrats is not supported by recent facts. 

Biden has a day-1 plan to help the economy, which includes clean energy infrastructure and giving the Dreamers a path to citizenship. More to come. What is Trump's day-1 plan for the economy, which is now the #1 concern for voters. More tax cuts for the rich?

He'll let you know in a couple of weeks. 

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13 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

I believe scarf lady and Fauci when they say there is probably 10 times as many infections than actually reported. This does some serious damage to the ratio of CNN’s giant death ticker.

Even if we figure that number is 10x what the current number of cases is, the death rate would still be 0.45%. If everyone in the US were to contract it, even with that death rate we’d be looking at close to 1.5M deaths.

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25 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I don’t want any of you to get the boot. I want you guys to be happy after the election. You won’t be, initially, but things will be better for you under President Biden. 

At the current rate of vacations there won’t be many Trump voters around at the end to celebrate. 

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40 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

It’s actually probably closer to 99.7% right now.

I heard someone say none of the cases are harmless. You either have symptoms yourself or are asymptomatic and are someone who can transmit to vulnerable people.

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2 hours ago, timschochet said:

So you also believe that if it doesn’t kill you it’s harmless? 

Not only that...whatever doesn't kill you...makes you stronger!!

...and...as you see the infection rate skyrocket...the death rate will go down..

If they estimate that approximately 2 million have it now....it is probably closer to 20 million.
If the death rate is currently .45% with 2 million infected...if that number was 20 million, the death rate would be .045.

In order to keep that death rate higher...those infected estimates must be kept lower.

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1 hour ago, Bucsfan5493 said:

Even if we figure that number is 10x what the current number of cases is, the death rate would still be 0.45%. If everyone in the US were to contract it, even with that death rate we’d be looking at close to 1.5M deaths.

 

From what I understand, AIDS has s .45% death rate....and a much, much lower recovery rate...yet, those at risk just keep on humpin'

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2 hours ago, timschochet said:

I don’t know any Democrats tearing down statues. I don’t know any Democrats cheering the unlawful tearing down of statues. Perhaps you can direct me to some? 

Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth says she’s open to tearing down statues of George Washington.

https://twitter.com/arthurschwartz/status/1279781525219946498?s=21

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10 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Democrat Senator Tammy Duckworth says she’s open to tearing down statues of George Washington.

https://twitter.com/arthurschwartz/status/1279781525219946498?s=21

She said we should listen to the argument...not that we should do it. That is different.

If she clarifies this that she believes we should take down Washington, Jefferson memorials I’m guessing that takes her of the VP list. 

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29 minutes ago, The General said:

She said we should listen to the argument...not that we should do it. That is different.

If she clarifies this that she believes we should take down Washington, Jefferson memorials I’m guessing that takes her of the VP list. 

I strongly doubt she is in favor of a mob doing it against the law. 

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6 minutes ago, The General said:

Listening to an argument and convincing people why Washington isn’t the same as some Confederate traitor is the discussions leaders have. 

sure  :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, SoBeDad said:

I remember reading about the scene at 00:13.

There was a protest march, you can see in the video that it was peaceful, in DC. Some jerk started breaking up a sidewalk with a hammer - the protesters stopped that man, hold him, get the police and he was prevented from committing public destruction. This is a good example of the creation of disinformation. 

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1 hour ago, The General said:

She said we should listen to the argument...not that we should do it. That is different.

If she clarifies this that she believes we should take down Washington, Jefferson memorials I’m guessing that takes her of the VP list. 

We shouldn’t listen to the argument because the entire premise is crazy fringe. She handled that question about as terribly as you possibly could.
 

Who knows, this could be a resume enhancer for her VP chances. 

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16 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

We shouldn’t listen to the argument because the entire premise is crazy fringe. She handled that question about as terribly as you possibly could.
 

Who knows, this could be a resume enhancer for her VP chances. 

I don’t know much about Duckworth except that she served in the military and lost limbs during the service.

That’s enough for me to allow her to speak her mind even if I disagree.

I think she’d need to clarify what she was saying here. The VP pick for Biden will not be running on tear down Washington statues.

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1 minute ago, The General said:

I don’t know much about Duckworth except that she served in the military and lost limbs during the service.

That’s enough for me to allow her to speak her mind even if I disagree.

I think she’d need to clarify what she was saying here. The VP pick for Biden will not be running on tear down Washington statues.

Who’s saying she can’t speak her mind? I hope she speaks as much as possible. This is excellent for President Trump right here. Something tells me we won’t be seeing her for a while after this though. 

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2 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Who’s saying she can’t speak her mind? I hope she speaks as much as possible. This is excellent for President Trump right here. Something tells me we won’t be seeing her for a while after this though. 

That’s fair.

You do have the debate though. That’s what leaders do.

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4 hours ago, Widbil83 said:

No I’m not. The fear mongering Democrats are putting that message out.

The guy you support doesn’t expound on his plans and platform, he talks about how the US will end if “radical left democrats” end up in power. You yourself fear monger in your posts, often. How many people need to die before it’s not “fear mongering” and republicans take this think seriously?

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8 minutes ago, Snorkelson said:

The guy you support doesn’t expound on his plans and platform, he talks about how the US will end if “radical left democrats” end up in power. You yourself fear monger in your posts, often. How many people need to die before it’s not “fear mongering” and republicans take this think seriously?

I find it ironic that the people who lost their bacon and declared Trump the next Hitler is pointing fingers about fear-mongering.  Where have you been the last 4 years?

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40 minutes ago, The General said:

That’s fair.

You do have the debate though. That’s what leaders do.

Never heard of a "non-starter"?

Here

and here.....

...and here

...but hey...."leaders debate"....right?  :whistle:

...Tearing down statues of our Founding Fathers is something worth debating....but defundiing cops somehow is not, for the Dems?

You just cannot tell what is real and what is pandering with the Democrats.

 

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7 minutes ago, Opie said:

Never heard of a "non-starter"?

Here

and here.....

...and here

...but hey...."leaders debate"....right?  :whistle:

...Tearing down statues of our Founding Fathers is something worth debating....but defundiing cops somehow is not, for the Dems?

You just cannot tell what is real and what is pandering with the Democrats.

 

Where are those 2nd two opinion pieces from? 

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6 minutes ago, Opie said:

Never heard of a "non-starter"?

Here

and here.....

...and here

...but hey...."leaders debate"....right?  :whistle:

...and tearing down statues of our Founding Fathers is something worth debating.

 

Think those arguments have already been made. Has there been any legislation voted on about removing Washington statues?

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6 minutes ago, The General said:

Think those arguments have already been made. Has there been any legislation voted on about removing Washington statues?

Who has the political gonads to introduce it?

The same one who introduces a bill to defund the police?

Democrats never introduce a bill that can be used against them.
They only preach about it while they make the talk show circuit on Sundays.

They will never commit on record while the winds are still shifting.

They leave that to the REAL leaders..

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3 minutes ago, Opie said:

Who has the political gonads to introduce it?

The same one who introduces a bill to defund the police?

Democrats never introduce a bill that can be used against them.
They only preach about it while they make the talk show circuit on Sundays.

I can’t read your tabloid site on my phone.

Is Biden out there leading protests to tear down statues in the story or is this the latest Fox News bogeyman?

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Here's a question....

Now that the NFL has caved and are now pandering to BLM by playing the "black national anthem"....

....will the MSM use their power and false reporting on the COVID virus to push for the NFL season to open on schedule??

Bets??

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4 minutes ago, The General said:

I can’t read your tabloid site on my phone.

Is Biden out there leading protests to tear down statues in the story or is this the latest Fox News bogeyman?

:lmao: Biden??  Out there?  Anywhere??? Leading ANYONE???

No....he is safely tucked away in his basement, keeping his mouth shut.

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3 minutes ago, Opie said:

Here's a question....

Now that the NFL has caved and are now pandering to BLM by playing the "black national anthem"....

....will the MSM use their power and false reporting on the COVID virus to push for the NFL season??

Bets??

The NFL is a private business. They are catering to their customers. 

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1 minute ago, The General said:

The NFL is a private business. They are catering to their customers. 

Yeah...you bet.  :rolleyes:

A private business who somehow, doesn't pay taxes.

They are pandering to their employees.

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1 minute ago, Opie said:

:lmao: Biden??  Out there?  Anywhere??? Leading ANYONE???

No....he is safely tucked away in his basement, poking his head once in awhile, to see if he's the POTUS yet?

That’s a no?

I read in here that Biden masterminded the lockup of the democratic nomination by coercing Pete, Klobacher, etc while at the same time disenfranchising all the Bernie Bros.

At the same time he’s also incapable of leading anyone. Hmmm.

While doing all this he’s somehow built a double digits lead over Trump :lmao:

Imagine what he achieves when he actual tries. 

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9 minutes ago, The General said:

That’s a no?

I read in here that Biden masterminded the lockup of the democratic nomination by coercing Pete, Klobacher, etc while at the same time disenfranchising all the Bernie Bros.

At the same time he’s also incapable of leading anyone. Hmmm.

While doing all this he’s somehow built a double digits lead over Trump :lmao:

Imagine what he achieves when he actual tries. 

You are confusing Biden with the DNC and that "double digit lead over Trump" looks much like Hillary's lead over now, PRESIDENT Trump.

Biden still can't find the door to his basement.

We've all heard his babbling when he "tries"....you know..."the thing".

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You are confusing Biden with the DNC and that "double digit lead over Trump" looks much like Hillary's lead over now, PRESIDENT Trump.

Ah yes. The old DNC bogeyman. Same people out there tearing down the Jefferson Monument in the middle of the night. A lot to keep track of.

Definitely better to be losing by double digits. Good strategy.

  

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14 minutes ago, The General said:

Ah yes. The old DNC bogeyman. Same people out there tearing down the Jefferson Monument in the middle of the night. A lot to keep track of.

Definitely better to be losing by double digits. Good strategy.

  

The DNC is not the "boogeyman" to me....I don't vote in Democrat primaries.
Republican voters actually get to pick their candidate.

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1 hour ago, BladeRunner said:
1 hour ago, Snorkelson said:

The guy you support doesn’t expound on his plans and platform, he talks about how the US will end if “radical left democrats” end up in power. You yourself fear monger in your posts, often. How many people need to die before it’s not “fear mongering” and republicans take this think seriously?

I find it ironic that the people who lost their bacon and declared Trump the next Hitler is pointing fingers about fear-mongering.  Where have you been the last 4 years?

It’s fear mongering both ways.  Trump isn’t Hitler and the future of “our freedoms” won’t be stolen if Biden wins.  Right now some on the right are fear mongering as bad as some of those on the left have been about Trump.  

How someone on one “side” can rail on and on laughing about how crazy the other side is while simultaneously doing the same thing on there “side” is mind blowing to me. 

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27 minutes ago, Opie said:

The DNC is not the "boogeyman" to me....I don't vote in Democrat primaries.
Republican voters actually get to pick their candidate.

So it’s not Biden it’s the DNC.

Is the DNC nominating Biden appeasing the Marxists or whatever nonsense Trump is going on about?

The things and who to be scared of are hard to track. 

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57 minutes ago, Opie said:

that "double digit lead over Trump" looks much like Hillary's lead over now, PRESIDENT Trump.

I keep seeing/hearing this - but I am struggling to see the similarities.

 

This race really is nothing like the 2016 race.

In 2016 it was 20+ years of public politician Clinton v. unknown politician Trump (yes Trump was widely known, but how he would perform as an elected official was an unknown).  That is no longer true in 2020 - you have two candidates where the public has ample evidence on how they are as politicians.

In 2016, you had a lot of people - from across the political spectrum - who really disliked Hillary Clinton.  In 2020, there is not the same animosity towards Biden.  Even people who don't like his political positions generally don't hate Biden, the way people hated Clinton.

In 2016 the election was between Clinton and Trump - people had to choose sides.  Stick with the politician they did not like, or go with the Celebrity they were not sure about.  In 2020 there is one one issue in play - do you want 4 more years of President Trump?  Biden is really just a placeholder, and is one reason why none of Trump's attacks are resonating.

There are very few people who will vote who don't already know how they feel about President Trump.  Those who want 4 more years are not going to be swayed by anything Biden offers, and those that want Trump out are not going to be swayed by any Trump advertising.

The election is not final, but the margin for error here is shrinking quickly as the electorate firms up their views.

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On 7/2/2020 at 8:25 AM, knowledge dropper said:

NASCAR trying to save their sport.  I may even watch to root for AMERICA’S CAR.  
 


NASCAR driver Corey LaJoie's No. 32 car will have 'Trump 2020' paint scheme for 9 races
Beginning this Sunday at the Brickyard 400 in Indianapolis, NASCAR driver Corey LaJoie's Cup Series car will sponsored by a pro-Donald Trump PAC.

Read in USA TODAY: https://apple.news/AeedbTo9gSw-dovDgFNJnTA

Looks like the typical TRUMP result for whatever he touches...

Corey LaJoie and his Donald Trump car were involved in a scary crash at the Brickyard 400 on Sunday. The crash occurred in PIT LANE. Exiting after just 16 laps of the 160 to be raced. Finishing 39th out of the 40 race teams.

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3 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

Looks like the typical TRUMP result for whatever he touches...

Corey LaJoie and his Donald Trump car were involved in a scary crash at the Brickyard 400 on Sunday. The crash occurred in PIT LANE. Exiting after just 16 laps of the 160 to be raced. Finishing 39th out of the 40 race teams.

Congratulations?

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7 minutes ago, BigSteelThrill said:

Looks like the typical TRUMP result for whatever he touches...

Corey LaJoie and his Donald Trump car were involved in a scary crash at the Brickyard 400 on Sunday. The crash occurred in PIT LANE. Exiting after just 16 laps of the 160 to be raced. Finishing 39th out of the 40 race teams.

Your girl Hillary 40th?

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3 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Congratulations?

Yes, as nobody got seriously hurt at the race. 

Though one pit crew guy got it "ugly" while working on one car and hit/pinned/squeezed by another.  Reports are that he is not injured.

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