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WR Hunter Renfrow (2 Viewers)
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Faust
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Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Great job as always, Faust!
Seen nothing but great things about Renfrew out of camp, and excited to see what he can do.
From a "this-year" perspective hard to think he'll be worth tons of value as it seems there are a lot of nads to feed - AB, Tyrell Williams, pass catching backs Jacobs, Richard, etc. And I think with a solid line, we'll see tons of dynamic offensive looks spreading the ball around to take advantage of Carr's arm and accuracy.
To me, the biggest difference this year for Renfrew is how Darren Waller at TE fares -- lots of hype around Waller too but he's dinged and I've never been a big believer, but can see that Renfrew's targets are shared more across those that go to the TE than those to AB/Williams.
If Waller fails to launch as the team's TE1, could mean even bigger thing for Renfew out of the slot.
Seen nothing but great things about Renfrew out of camp, and excited to see what he can do.
From a "this-year" perspective hard to think he'll be worth tons of value as it seems there are a lot of nads to feed - AB, Tyrell Williams, pass catching backs Jacobs, Richard, etc. And I think with a solid line, we'll see tons of dynamic offensive looks spreading the ball around to take advantage of Carr's arm and accuracy.
To me, the biggest difference this year for Renfrew is how Darren Waller at TE fares -- lots of hype around Waller too but he's dinged and I've never been a big believer, but can see that Renfrew's targets are shared more across those that go to the TE than those to AB/Williams.
If Waller fails to launch as the team's TE1, could mean even bigger thing for Renfew out of the slot.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
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Smart fantasy owners are adding Hunter Renfrow right now. He could catch 90-100 balls from the slot with AB gone. No joke.
7:12 AM - 7 Sep 2019
Smart fantasy owners are adding Hunter Renfrow right now. He could catch 90-100 balls from the slot with AB gone. No joke.
7:12 AM - 7 Sep 2019
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
Not to go OT, but the Raiders official depth chart lists J.J. Nelson as the WR1 playing the X.
PigSkinMan
Footballguy
Renfrow is a pure slot receiver so this is expected. With Tyrell Williams being more of a vertical threat, I can see why people are giving Renfrow a big bump with AB gone. He was already generating some buzz in camp before AB’s meltdown.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Picked him up for a stash at the end of my bench. Plenty of potential targets opened up. Who knows. Loved what I saw from him at Clemson. Looks like a gamer.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Decent game last week. Thoughts going forward?
Todem
Footballguy
I think he has upside. However, he needs a real NFL off-season to work on reshaping himself and also he probably needs a nutritionist. I am being serious. He has great hands and knack for getting open and finding the soft spots in zones etc. But he needs to win the physical battles off the line too and he is simply over matched physically right now. If he dedicates himself to reshaping himself (become rock solid as he is a country bumpkin and honestly has a soft body) he can be an outstanding slot WR long term.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
Colleges have solid training problems. Odd that he is soft and not in great shape already.
Todem
Footballguy
Sometimes even college players come in soft. And going through an NFL off-season is even more intense than college.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
I think I’m finally trotting him out at my WR3 over Tate with Sheppard back. This is a great matchup for Renfrow, Jets secondary is bad.
I already played TY over him (ungh) unless I put him in over Washington or Mclaurin. Since I need ceiling over floor at this point he'll probably stay on the bench.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
He's really developing nicely and seems to have surer hands as the season has progressed.
He already had a good field sense that helps him "sit" in the right pocket of the field on slants.
He can improve with more physicality -- in contesting balls and getting separation off the line, or fighting through traffic or not slowing when rubbing past slot corners to get open in the flat or down the sidelines.
Play calling is helping Renfrow, too -- I've noticed that the Raiders have been running a lot of trips formations with double-slants, which helps open up space for either receiver. Renfrow's big TD against HOU was off of one such play where he got the ball in just the right opening to split a CB and safety, and was off to the races.
He's also getting his number called more on 3rd downs with shorter/middle distances, showing that Carr is gaining confidence in him. This was evident in the Lion's game where Carr checked to him on a drag route in the end zone off a PA fake -- it was a tight window throw with a defender on him that Renfrow had more trouble reeling in earlier this season, but instead made a clutch catch. It was a good adjustment by Renfrow as he could have kept dragging to the sideline to retain space resulting in a shorter yardage catch, but he slightly adjusted his route upfield -- and closer to the defender -- that resulted in more yards and put them inside the 5.
In the same game, looking to break a 4th Q tie, Renfrow showed great chemistry with Carr on a play inside the Lion's 15. All the receivers were bottled up given the short field, but Renfrow fought his way through traffic and tracked with Carr from right to left as he scrambled from the pocket, staying with him, getting separation, and catching the ball with under 2 feet to spare in the end zone, ensuring his feet got down and inside the paint.
He is far from being a Welker/Edelman/Troy Brown. And he's not a dependable fantasy player yet.
But I love the development and improvement I see every game, and it's clear that target and reception distribution is evening out in his favor as the season has worn on.
He already had a good field sense that helps him "sit" in the right pocket of the field on slants.
He can improve with more physicality -- in contesting balls and getting separation off the line, or fighting through traffic or not slowing when rubbing past slot corners to get open in the flat or down the sidelines.
Play calling is helping Renfrow, too -- I've noticed that the Raiders have been running a lot of trips formations with double-slants, which helps open up space for either receiver. Renfrow's big TD against HOU was off of one such play where he got the ball in just the right opening to split a CB and safety, and was off to the races.
He's also getting his number called more on 3rd downs with shorter/middle distances, showing that Carr is gaining confidence in him. This was evident in the Lion's game where Carr checked to him on a drag route in the end zone off a PA fake -- it was a tight window throw with a defender on him that Renfrow had more trouble reeling in earlier this season, but instead made a clutch catch. It was a good adjustment by Renfrow as he could have kept dragging to the sideline to retain space resulting in a shorter yardage catch, but he slightly adjusted his route upfield -- and closer to the defender -- that resulted in more yards and put them inside the 5.
In the same game, looking to break a 4th Q tie, Renfrow showed great chemistry with Carr on a play inside the Lion's 15. All the receivers were bottled up given the short field, but Renfrow fought his way through traffic and tracked with Carr from right to left as he scrambled from the pocket, staying with him, getting separation, and catching the ball with under 2 feet to spare in the end zone, ensuring his feet got down and inside the paint.
He is far from being a Welker/Edelman/Troy Brown. And he's not a dependable fantasy player yet.
But I love the development and improvement I see every game, and it's clear that target and reception distribution is evening out in his favor as the season has worn on.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
As a Renfrow owner, I love this. As a Waller owner, I hate this. Renfrow is a slow slot receiver. He is running the similar routes that a tight end runs. Over the first 7 weeks of the season, Renfrow averaged 4.25 fantasy points and Waller averaged 17.53 fantasy points. Over the last 4 weeks, Renfrow averaged 14.00 fantasy points and Waller averaged 9.03 points.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Yep, both the emergence of Renfrow and Williams to a degree have shifted targets and Waller's fantasy effectiveness.
One of those things that's fantastic for the real team, but cruddy for fake teams.
The Frankman
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Even on a run-first offense the Raiders aren't afraid to pass a ton (unlike the Titans). The matchups aren't really scary and Renfrow will probably only see nickel/slot CBs (should avoid Bouye/Hayward/Adoree Jackson). He's one of Carr's favorite targets already , and if you need a Flex WR play his floor seems safe at 5-6 FP in Standard.
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Even on a run-first offense the Raiders aren't afraid to pass a ton (unlike the Titans). The matchups aren't really scary and Renfrow will probably only see nickel/slot CBs (should avoid Bouye/Hayward/Adoree Jackson). He's one of Carr's favorite targets already , and if you need a Flex WR play his floor seems safe at 5-6 FP in Standard.
whole-show
Footballguy
Renfrow broke a rib and punctured his lung in Sunday’s loss per Rapoport
Todem
Footballguy
And this is exactly what I have observed and why he needs to reshape himself in the off-season. And I think he will. And I expect bigger and better things in 2020 and beyond. He just has a great feel for the soft spots in the defense and has outstanding hands.
Bright future.
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Renfrow is week to week and out week 13 per Scott Bair
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
If Carr remains the starter in 2020 for the Raiders, Renfrow will continue to hold value. He is a really good true slot WR. The level of value depends on the WR drafted to act as the WR1.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
What's his value in dynasty? Worth buying for cheap? Worth selling? I know the Raiders added some pass catchers.
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
His value is right next to nothing. I was trying to free up roster spots in a couple leagues and couldn’t get a future 3
Zyphros
Footballguy
Keep him. He’ll be a monster in full PPR leagues. He’s going to be the security blanket instead of the learning process of Ruggs and Edwards. He’s a discount Jamison Crowder with the same 100 catches upside.
Ruffrodys05
IBL Representative
He will be dropped in my keeper (7) league and he's high on my draft target list. I'll be disappointed if I'm unable to land him.
